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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/14/2010 1:28:56 PM

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Sounds a bit like a SNES game doesn't it?
Biovation 2...

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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/14/2010 1:30:02 PM

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I have the cheats and some extra map cds for it, here in the pawnshop. good price.

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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/14/2010 1:31:33 PM

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Cool.

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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/14/2010 2:25:22 PM

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Brain, this isn't rocket science, Washington is simply spending way too much money.
If you're taking in $1Trillion per year you shouldn't be spending $2Trillion a year.

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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/14/2010 2:32:34 PM

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I have the cheats and some extra map cds for it, here in the pawnshop. good price.

Ron

Ron will soon be the Mr. Potter of Mnottertail Falls.

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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/14/2010 2:40:26 PM

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Really...is it that simple Pops.What about spending on programs that benifit future Americans...should they no help allay those costs?

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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/16/2010 7:34:49 AM

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As usual, there is not an iota of fact in here!

a) Illegal immigrants contribute a lot more than they cost, including shoring up Social Security with $7 BILLION every year.
b) Why do you claim that Lindsay Lohan and Timothy McVeigh are illegal immigrants? Or why do you mention drunk driving and crime?
c) A good fence will cost trillions. The construction cost of the short segment approved so far - which only covers about 10% of the total border length - is already up to $50 billion or so - and that doesn't include the cost of maintaining and watching it. East Germany went bankrupt trying to protect a fence 200 miles long. To watch the US borders, you would need approximately the entire US military just to watch the land borders.

And your two examples of fences that supposedly work? The whole West Bank is smaller than Delaware! North Korea is pretty small, too, and China for the most part doesn't guard the border.

Meanwhile, "high-tech fences" have consistently bankrupted the countries trying to build them. East Germany's fence was only about 200 miles long - but so expensive that it was the main reason the country went bankrupt. The DMZ in Korea - 150 miles long - requires the force of the US military.

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Once you add in the total cost of Illegal aliens, from education, healthcare, food stamps, energy assistance, 2 meals a day at school, and all the lives that have been ruined by drug smugglers, and people who have been killed by Illegal aliens by crime and drunk driving, leaving their spouses and children dependent on the states, it runs into the half a trillion dollar range. A good fence only cost a few billion. By the way, China has a high tech fence to keep north koreans out, and obviously Israel has one. Fences do work. If you don't believe that then let's take down every back yard fence in America and the fence around the whitehouse.

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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/16/2010 8:58:55 AM

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Tax cuts create jobs and ensure the survival of established businesses. It also makes it easier for new businesses to survive.

So does employing illegal immigrants for less than minimum wage. Perhaps that'd be a good idea as well? Not paying whatever you have instead of NI for their workforce would trim down employers overheads no end, and it would provide an incentive for Americans to take less pay as well.
That'd trickle down even faster than the money saved on giving the plutocracy a tax break.

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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/16/2010 9:01:50 AM

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When dealing with home finances, its a matter of making enough income to take care of the outlay. If not enough income, you either cut out the little extras in life, or you create more income with another job. Its a pretty simple equation.

Its no different for the government. It either finds more income, or cuts spending. You do NOT cut income to cover the cost of existing. Even a fifth grader can understand that.

Are you smarter than a fifth grader?

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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/16/2010 9:03:48 AM

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When dealing with home finances, its a matter of making enough income to take care of the outlay. If not enough income, you either cut out the little extras in live, or you create more income with another job. Its a pretty simple equation.

Or take out a second mortgage and max out your credit cards using them to pay each other's minimum payment.

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Its no different for the government. It either finds more income, or cuts spending.

If only. Since Reagan, financing by borrowing has become the norm.

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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/16/2010 9:08:41 AM

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Are you dissing Saint Ronnie of the Monstrous Deficit?
For shame! Liberal!

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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/16/2010 9:09:43 AM

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I give Ronnie credit for trying an idea, albeit based on a shaky foundation.

After Ronnie, it's cynical fraud.

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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/16/2010 9:12:14 AM

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The GOP is a one-trick pony. They have no new ideas and reject anything Obama proposes, even if it was one of the GOP's ideas to begin with. They oppose everything, yet they come up with nothing new and different. It's Reaganomics, 80s economic policies in a 21st century economy.

They only offer the same old sh*t in a different millennium.

With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cuts | Jay Bookman

Former state Sen. Eric Johnson aired his first campaign commercial for governor over the weekend, trying to convince his fellow Georgians that he possesses the

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Brain is one brainless donkey. The reason the GOP rejects anything Obama proposes is because everything Obama proposes has failed before, not only in this country but in every other country. History proves that raising taxes, specifically on small businesses and the wealthy, actually decreases tax revenue.

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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/16/2010 9:15:08 AM

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I expect you can show us the history book that elucidates that for us then?

And the new proposal thats never failed before many times you are positing is?

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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/16/2010 9:16:58 AM

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History proves that raising taxes, specifically on small businesses and the wealthy, actually decreases tax revenue.

I have to run for several hours--but do a little research, and you'll find the opposite is true regarding taxing the wealthy.

Soaking small businesses is simply a fear-mongering myth.

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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/16/2010 9:33:57 AM

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Particularly as small businesses tend not to be making enough to belong in the highest tax band anyway.
The high tax rates on high earners and the socialised medicine it pays for has ruined Norway and Sweden as countries, hasn't it?

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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/16/2010 9:49:55 AM

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History proves that raising taxes, specifically on small businesses and the wealthy, actually decreases tax revenue.

I have to run for several hours--but do a little research, and you'll find the opposite is true regarding taxing the wealthy.

Soaking small businesses is simply a fear-mongering myth.

For reality look no further than California. Highest tax increase in the history of the county last year. Since then tax revenue is down to he point of seeking additional revenue sources.

Feel free to look it up.

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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/16/2010 10:30:49 AM

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yeh people are learning how to prevent them from double dipping.

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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/16/2010 10:39:03 AM

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I expect you can show us the history book that elucidates that for us then?

And the new proposal thats never failed before many times you are positing is?

Careful Ron their printing history books down in Texas now.....who kknows what the fuck they will say.

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RE: With tax revenue down 25%, GOP still pushes tax cut... - 4/16/2010 10:51:29 AM

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Only academia progressives think that government spending improves an economy....truth is that it is a drop in the bucket of a 17 Trillion dollar economy...Rosevelt's 'new deal' actually prolonged the recession, not anything close to turning the tide of the depression brought on by the real culprit of Woodrow Wilson's progressive government spending and taxation. The progressive shit has been tried time and time again in Europe...EVERY TIME it is tried it has FALLEN ON ITS ASS! Only a stupid democrat that wants his government nannie state tries to justify its failure by name calling and absolute lies and revisionist history.

World War Two was what got the economy moving again...and this economy only grows when government is reigned in and regulations diminished. When did you decide against the genius of the free economic system?....was it penis envey when you discovered you can't cut it in the business world?.... or when your bearded Marxist college professor altered your weak mind in class? When did you decide that your country was worth your ridicule?.... when did you become a communist? I have never known a democrat that was not a fool.... not worth talking to.... they are all little suckass leaches trying to spin the news cycle and bloviating about contorted twisted idiology that they have not questioned in their own mind. They despise success, they despise business, and they name call because that is the only defense when presented with reality. Only thru government redistribution of wealth can they achieve their ends of censorship of dessent, and confiscation of what does not belong to the them or the government. All in the name of 'equality'....

The very concepts of freedom is unaccpetable and must be stamped out, for they do not benefit by others achieving more than them, lest they find a way to villify them and justify their larceny. Most of them are failures in the free marketplace, as well as being clueless about the power of the free marketplace to enrich a country. They see America as flawed and greedy, and don't even mention American Exceptionalism..... only they are exceptional in their obvious stupidity and shortcomings. They lack work ethics and the will to take risk and sacrifice in order to achieve an end.... they want their little wishes and needs to be paid for someone else not unlike the other parasites that occupy this planet in the animal kingdom. Democrats are envious little leaches that are unworthy of being called an American.... they are pathetic in their stupidity and their arrogance. I personally detest the maggots that make up their constitutancy.

If you really think you can take over the contry by this spin, then you are truely the fool that I suspect you are to be.... November is just the beginning of the refounding of this nation, the rebirth of freedom along with a firing of the federal bureacrats is just the beginning. Power is going to be stipped from Washington, and put down to the states as it was intended. You don't agree with a state's policies, then pack your shit and move... Let New York and the rest of the poisoned blue states go into the welfare abyss all by themselves....let the 'progressive states turn into the third world shitholes all by themselves....who fucking cares what New York/New Jersey/Michigan/California does..... put up a fucking fence around these turds and let them rot for all I care, but you are going to leave the free states alone....or suffer the consequencies of your attempted larceny.

The gauntlet is about to be thrown down and libs had better grasp that the political reality has changed. The Marxist are out in the open for all to see, and their policies stink like a whorehouse at low tide..... The freedom train is going to run over your asses and their is not a fucking thing you are going to be able to do about it..... so either get on board, or get the fuck off the track....either way, you and your marxist ilk are about to become political roadkill....count on it!

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