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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/5/2006 10:22:02 PM   
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I am glad that Prince Sitri admits that he is not as his sharpest. As a licensed Personal Trainer, I detect kyphosis in his posture, and the treatment for that is to strengthen the back muscles and stretch the pectorals.  He also appears to be on the overweight side.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/5/2006 10:23:19 PM   
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"no mention of illegal activities"

illegal where?  If that's the case, no one should mention the words "anal sex", because that's still illegal in some states.


It's a good point. and the statement really does need clarifying by reference to the activities the site owners have in mind - as it stands it is so vague as to be all but meaningless. It should be remembered that this is a site that aims at international users and in many countries its entire content would be illegal. Just whose laws are supposed to apply here?



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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/5/2006 10:27:16 PM   
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I am glad that Prince Sitri admits that he is not as his sharpest. As a licensed Personal Trainer, I detect kyphosis in his posture, and the treatment for that is to strengthen the back muscles and stretch the pectorals.  He also appears to be on the overweight side.


It's also an old photo.


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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/5/2006 10:28:28 PM   
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Perhaps Arpig is complaining so much because he either can't find a submissive women or he is not satisfied with the one he has, or he is unhappy in some way. I really feel sorry for him, as he seems to have an axe to grind. I hope he follows my advice about his grooming.


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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/5/2006 10:30:56 PM   
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In reading over some of these posts, I have come to the conclusion that some of you people are out of your minds. Many prodommes are mothers, and many of them protect their children from the scene. I have two children myself, and my other life is locked away from them.


We might all be total delusional idiots as far as you are concerned, but i never heard of anyone who protects their children from the profession of teaching Hamet and MacBeth at the junior college and senior high school levels.

Oh and btw, the tittie shot is about as lame and tasteless as those who post cock shots.



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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/5/2006 10:34:09 PM   
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I am not into finanicial slavery, and, in fact, I do not conduct that many prodomme sessions as I am selective about the people I dominate. In New York City where I live, I have been in the same location for eight years, and the law has never bothered me.  I keep a low profile, and I do not cross lines that might make them think that I am giving GFE or FS activities.  It is strictly domination, and I do not get sexually aroused; it is about power and control for me.  Contrary to what many misinformed people think, there are many men who are truly subservient and are not submitting for the sexual thrill. As I said, I am selective.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/5/2006 10:34:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PrettyNYkitten

Perhaps Arpig is complaining so much because he either can't find a submissive women or he is not satisfied with the one he has, or he is unhappy in some way. I really feel sorry for him, as he seems to have an axe to grind. I hope he follows my advice about his grooming.




Pesonally I think he looks fine as he is.


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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/5/2006 10:51:21 PM   
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"no mention of illegal activities"

illegal where?  If that's the case, no one should mention the words "anal sex", because that's still illegal in some states.


No it is not. When the United States Supreme Court tossed out the Texas statute, it invalidated all other *consentual* sodomy (which is not just anal sex) statutes. Just an FYI.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/5/2006 10:59:51 PM   
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What harm have pro dommes actually done on this site except to get people to bitch and moan in the forums without having ever actually done anything to that person?

It's like the profiles of the people who are owned, or the people who don't fit your search criteria.  Skip over it, sheesh, and stop making it so personal.


A lot of people don't find pro bdsm services to fall under the same category as your examples in the last paragraph. You have to expect that on a site focused on establishing relationships and community that commercial solicitation (and some would say exploitation) will raise more than a few hackles. The fact that such advertising is considered acceptable AT ALL is notable. It's simply normal social behaviors and reactions. If Barnes and Noble, or Avon Book decided to make an account to advertise on a book of the month site instead of purchasing ad space like any other advertiser, people would be (rightfully) offended by the unpaid commercial intrusion. If a pro Domme's only purpose here is to solicit their services, I would note that there is a banner ad program and an appropriate forum for commercial solicitation. I would say at this point, that obviously some pros are here to engage in the community just like any other.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/5/2006 11:05:00 PM   
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As for Me, I could care less one way or the other.  I think they are leeches that take advantage of people and cash in on a good thing, destroying the good name of BDSM, but that is their problem.  Ever hear of the rental car agency "Rent A Wreck?"     If you are that pathetic that you have to pay for it to get some, you have what is coming to you.  You will not find Me standing up for you.  You made your bed, you lie in it.  I am sure that some people really get off on it though, but it would not surprise Me if they did it because they could not find something better somewhere else.  That is usually the way it works.  The human race as a whole does not typically pay for something if they can get it for free.

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You don't approve of capatalism?  Supply and demand, my friend.  There are still places you can go where they don't allow capatalism.  Contact your travel agent.  As for paying for what you can get for free?  How about cable television?  Bottled water?  Now they are trying to get us to pay for radio.  Can bottled air be far behind?

And in conclusion...  "the good name of BDSM"????  We are NOT living on the same planet.  Bunch a friggin perverts you all are.  Thank God!


Dammit ... I'm not a perv... wait ... never mind. :)

I'd have to agree with the sentiment though being libertarian. Whatever two consenting adults wanna do, go for it! If they wanna trade cash for it, go for it! By the same token, people are free to voice their revulsion on any such activities.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/6/2006 12:10:34 AM   
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It really isn't mental control. I, and the vast majority of men with whom the topic has come up, go to a strip bar to have some drinks, or play pool. It is simply more pleasant to look at naked women while doing so than it is to look at other things, so every now and then we pay the inflated drink prices just to have the pleasant scenery.
It has nothing to do with the man's self control or lack thereof, what I said was if a stripper goes beyond just stripping and provides a blatantly sexual service, then he or she is being a prostitute.
I am willing to admit that there are probably many men (and some women) who go to a strip joint in order to get their rocks off (either there, or later), I just have never met one (it is not terribly erotic to watch a bored woman pretending to be interested while she does her act for the umpteenth time that week). And yes, I guess that would make the strippers prostitues as well, however, since I do not find it sexual, I never considered them to be so. So be it, I will concede on this point, stripping should probably be considered a form of prostitution as well.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/6/2006 12:15:26 AM   
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No mistake there.
Lack of sensitivity  - you chose the word whore, not because you are a "plain speaker", but to upset and irritate the pro dommes. You are disingenuous because you are calling youself a "plain" speaker when you really mean word game player. You lack perception of the simple fact that it takes one to know one.


I see, now you know what i was thinking, and my motivation in choosing a particular word do you? Amazing power that.
I am afraid you are wrong, I am a plain speaker, I can't stand the whole PC trend to sanitise speech, a garbage man is a garbage man, not a sanitation engineer. I am not the one playing word games and splitting semantic hairs here, I am calling things the way I see them.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/6/2006 12:17:59 AM   
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I have a hard time correlating financial slavery with paying for a service.  It gives me a very odd idea of what you think financial slavery is.


I agree 100%, the two are completely different things. If the board had meant the financial slavery rule to mean no pro dommes, they would have said so.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/6/2006 12:21:49 AM   
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I agree entirely, but I disagree with the implication that sex workers should feel ashamed of what they do for a living. Or maybe I'm misreading all of this - I'm not exactly at my sharpest at the moment.


Actually PrinceSitri, you have misunderstood my point. I do not think there is any shame attached to being a prostitute (or sex worker, so as to not offend anybody's delicate sensibilities). I do not attach any shame to it, but clearly many of the pros on here do, since they are so quick and adamant about distancing themselves from the hookers.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/6/2006 12:30:17 AM   
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Ah, I see, the fact that I am not "attractive" in some way makes me inelligible to have an opinion? I have never pretended that I am anything but an ugly fucker. I am the way I am because I like it, and it doesn't make a whit of difference to me if anybody else does.
It may indeed surprise you, but there are a large number of women who do not like the clean-cut, well shaved look, and they are not all ugly or unattractive.
And while we are on the topic of grooming....I find it amusing that so many of the pros who rush to deny they are whores seem to paint themselves up like one.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/6/2006 12:32:02 AM   
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Just whose laws are supposed to apply here?


the laws of the country or state where the site is hosted

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/6/2006 12:32:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Arpig

quote:

I agree entirely, but I disagree with the implication that sex workers should feel ashamed of what they do for a living. Or maybe I'm misreading all of this - I'm not exactly at my sharpest at the moment.


Actually PrinceSitri, you have misunderstood my point. I do not think there is any shame attached to being a prostitute (or sex worker, so as to not offend anybody's delicate sensibilities). I do not attach any shame to it, but clearly many of the pros on here do, since they are so quick and adamant about distancing themselves from the hookers.


I apologise; I'm not very well at the moment so my mind's more than a little fuzzy. As for the 'distancing', it may in some cases have to do with staying out of prison in those places where prostitution is illegal, but in most cases I suspect that the denial is indeed rooted in shame. As for my own position I maintain that, however subtle and abstract the process, we're talking about sex here; maybe not *just* sex, but it's still there as a part of the whole thing.


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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/6/2006 12:33:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Arpig

quote:

I have a hard time correlating financial slavery with paying for a service.  It gives me a very odd idea of what you think financial slavery is.


I agree 100%, the two are completely different things. If the board had meant the financial slavery rule to mean no pro dommes, they would have said so.


i'll give webster a call and tell them they do not know how to write a dictionary first thing in the morning!


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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/6/2006 12:38:09 AM   
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Perhaps Arpig is complaining so much because he either can't find a submissive women or he is not satisfied with the one he has, or he is unhappy in some way. I really feel sorry for him, as he seems to have an axe to grind. I hope he follows my advice about his grooming.


Actually, I wasn't complaining at all, the only "axe" i have to grind is with people pretending to be other than they are. I am sick of the holier than thou attitude many pros display, pretending that they are somehow not prostitutes.

There is NOTHING wrong with being a prostitute of any sort, please do not misunderstand me there. What is wrong is the claim that the services you provide as a pro domme are somehow no different than those you provide as a personal trainer. you yourself admit that you keep a low profile, why? I am pretty sure that in most circumstances you introduce yourself as a personal trainer, and not as a professional dominatrix. Now why would that be if the services are no different?

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/6/2006 12:48:17 AM   
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I suspect that the denial is indeed rooted in shame. As for my own position I maintain that, however subtle and abstract the process, we're talking about sex here; maybe not *just* sex, but it's still there as a part of the whole thing. 


Yes like the woman with the titty shot telling us her domination is not sexual because she does not get wet from it. 

They only see it as sex if they are fucking.  Yet they put up a pic of their titties and garters and stockings etc, and tell us its not sexual. 

how many pro dommes pics on here are wearing overalls and army boots?

Then on other threads you will see these dommes talk about how many wonderful ways to they are fulfilled sexually without orgasms or fucking.

it dont get no better than this!  LOL



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