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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/6/2006 7:58:31 AM

SirKenin

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Here is a deal for PrettyNYKitten. I have seen tons of tits and ass in My day. I have seen pretty women and ugly women, and lady, you have no right to speak about Arpig. You are no dreamboat yourself. You might think you are a model, but I have seen models and you just simply are not it. That BDSM magazine was probably just dying to get someone that did not look like a dog that ate one too many bowls of kibble. Nice rack though, but I would only put up with sucking on them for so long before I turned around and slapped you silly. Too bad that is your only saving grace.

The deal is this. If you are that age with a nice physique, your "brains" and single you are mental toast. You are most likely a wingnut in other words. Nobody wants you. No matter how tight you are or how big your b@@bies are, someone out there (and most likely many people) is sick of putting up with your shit. So, you go on bashing others at your own folly, but personally I think that you, education or no, are an idiot that I would not pay to give My feet a massage, never mind anything else.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/6/2006 7:59:39 AM

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OH GOD...men just WISH they could do it like us WOMEN. Never heard one word about female supremacy.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/6/2006 8:01:03 AM

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OH GOD...men just WISH they could do it like us WOMEN. Never heard one word about female supremacy.

The only thing I can say to that is that you have to respect someone who bleeds for seven days, is bitchy as hell and does not die.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/6/2006 8:02:32 AM

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Hey, you left out childbirth ;)

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The only thing I can say to that is that you have to respect someone who bleeds for seven days, is bitchy as hell and does not die.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/6/2006 8:04:39 AM

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ORIGINAL: SirKenin

Here is a deal for PrettyNYKitten. I have seen tons of tits and ass in My day. I have seen pretty women and ugly women, and lady, you have no right to speak about Arpig. You are no dreamboat yourself. You might think you are a model, but I have seen models and you just simply are not it. That BDSM magazine was probably just dying to get someone that did not look like a dog that ate one too many bowls of kibble. Nice rack though, but I would only put up with sucking on them for so long before I turned around and slapped you silly. Too bad that is your only saving grace.

The deal is this. If you are that age with a nice physique, your "brains" and single you are mental toast. You are most likely a wingnut in other words. Nobody wants you. No matter how tight you are or how big your b@@bies are, someone out there (and most likely many people) is sick of putting up with your shit. So, you go on bashing others at your own folly, but personally I think that you, education or no, are an idiot that I would not pay to give My feet a massage, never mind anything else.

If you are gonna stop by Buffalo drinks are on me, we need more people who put idiots and jerks in their place.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/6/2006 8:15:49 AM

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Childbirth...men would DIE going through 32 hours of hard labor. They don't have the hormones to "control" the pain. Don't you just love the fact that we are so beautiful and sacred that we can give birth and live through it to spank their out of line babie's bum's??

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/6/2006 8:18:27 AM

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Great pair of ta-tas, though.

Not by my taste!

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they charge for something that people have stated should be given away free-apparently that was what the Sexual Revolution meant to some: sex was now to be given away free-before the Revolution you either had to marry to get it, or pay (cash or in kind) a prostitute, or be very, very lucky.

Phoenix

Actually before the revolution people typically only got married when they screwed up and got pregnant. There were no real killer diseases other than syph and pennicillin took care of that.

The problem as i see it is that its lifestylers vs commercial enterprise.

Many if not most lifestylers who are single are seeking a partner and that is their purpose for being here.

Lifestylers hold the aspects of all that goes along with the union of two people sacred, friendship, companionship and even love in most cases.

Ever watch pros talk in the forums? "yes and men think they can have that or this for FREE"! there is a price tag mentality that over shadows every thing in the relationship.

Friendhip: 100.00/hour
Advice: 50.00/hour
Phone: 65.00/hour
Sessions: 300.00/hour

Everything a pro does in this sense is no different than a prostitute in the eyes of most single lifestylers who feel that the commercialization of what is otherwise human nature is nothing more than an insult tothe fundamentals of life, and in the case of the pro with a little different twist than a prostitute.

i have pro friends, i have dated pros. one at her request. i told her any hint of commercial and i am gone. well it lasted maybe a month before things started getting commercial.

once in the pro mindset i suspect few if any pros can think in the same terms as a lifestyler as sooner or later their greed will put a price tag on things that are in appropriate.

Nilla married women love prositutes and pro dommes when it concerns their husbands. Of course there are no married men out here trying cheat on their wives. Its this population that pro dommes and prostitutes support and they expect to honored in society.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/6/2006 8:23:33 AM

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The first thing that springs to mind when reading this discussion is that some people need to wake up and smell the coffee.

To work as a pro-domme is not necessarily the same thing as working as a prostitute (though it is for some) as most countries regard prostitution as a service where there is significant stimulation of genitalia. CBT would fall into this category.

However, we obviously work within the sex trade. Anyone telling me that there is nothing sexual in BDSM are clearly either living in denial or fantasy-land.

I am also rather ticked off by the tone in this thread. One would think that someone who claims to have a university degree in the English language would have been tought some retoric.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/6/2006 8:31:34 AM

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Ya know, I also just think SO WHAT? So there are pro Domme's on the site. Big deal. There are a lot of wankers and wannabe's too. Why don't you just skip those profiles (you can use the "Hide" feature so you don't have to see them again) and move on? Why come over here to bitch and flame and get your panties all in a twist about it? I mean, what really happened here, in the long-run? Gave Ms. Perky Tits a chance to come show off her bare boobs and show how superior she is (her own opinion, not mine) to us every-day kinda folk and drum up some business, that's what happened.

Just let it go.

Unless we want to bash Perky Tits some more, in which case I'm all for it <g>

P.S. at the bottom of this post it shows that it's in reply to Ms. Sophie, and it's not; it's just a general post to the thread.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/6/2006 8:34:32 AM

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
once in the pro mindset i suspect few if any pros can think in the same terms as a lifestyler as sooner or later their greed will put a price tag on things that are in appropriate.

I resent the implication that someone who chooses to earn a living from doing what they love is driven purely by greed. Personally I have worked as a pro-domme and I have many friends who do. We all manage to separate private life from professional. Our main problem is that the submissive men we date privately often tend to see us a service providers even when we are in our private sphere at home.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/6/2006 8:36:02 AM

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Actually perky tits has nice tits....nicer than mine but that doesn't go to say how much she is as a person. My tits aren't the greatest but I do believe I have a good heart being a Dom and I really love that part of myself. I enjoy all there is to know about BDSM and love hearing about other people's experiences as well. I do hate it when someone jabs someone else down though....that makes me think about myself. If I am going to jab someone else then there is something in ME that I don't like. There is enough war and crap in this world...why don't we just all spank each other and make up?? I love happy endings, dont' you??
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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/6/2006 8:38:30 AM

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ORIGINAL: LadyMorgynn
Financial slavery, if I'm not mistaken (but I'm sure you will correct me if I am wrong), is where the submissive in question turns over all control of all his finances to the Domme, with little or no promise of benefit accruing to himself. This is hardly in the same class as a $xx per hour paid pro Domme session!
Now... there may indeed be some subs who enter into financial servitude with a pro Domme. But since we are talking about pro Domme's in general, and not the exceptions, let's stay on track, shall we?

Sure thats the narrow unpolluted version of it.
Since when does a person have to hand over all their possessions to be a financial slave?
Just because its pay by the hour its is not financial slavery?
financial slavery exists on all levels and in all forms and like everything else does not follow by the strict and pure definition most assume to to be the case.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/6/2006 8:42:31 AM

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ORIGINAL: MsSophie

The first thing that springs to mind when reading this discussion is that some people need to wake up and smell the coffee.

To work as a pro-domme is not necessarily the same thing as working as a prostitute (though it is for some) as most countries regard prostitution as a service where there is significant stimulation of genitalia. CBT would fall into this category.

However, we obviously work within the sex trade. Anyone telling me that there is nothing sexual in BDSM are clearly either living in denial or fantasy-land.

I am also rather ticked off by the tone in this thread. One would think that someone who claims to have a university degree in the English language would have been tought some retoric.

this topic is much like the jessykapowers posts. Unlike you most are in denial and to many people out here that is an irresistable target.

good post!

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/6/2006 8:51:26 AM

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Unless we want to bash Perky Tits some more, in which case I'm all for it <g>

Hey i would never bash perky titties, granted they arent sloppy enough to throw over her shoulders, (yet), but they are not perky either in my opinion.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/6/2006 9:14:09 AM

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Considering she came in here using her apparently perfect bod to 1) show her superiority and 2) to knock the opinions of other posters on the basis of such superiority (via perfect bod), I feel like I can take jabs at her if I want to. I mean, she sure didn't show much intelligence, but I would never mock someone for something that was not her fault. And we've seen through her posts how she is as a person (complete loser). Thus, we're back to the perky tits... which I didn't actually find all that attractive anyway. And I'm not the least bit interested in claiming her as a sister, even if we are both Domme's and both have big ta-ta's. The similarity between us ends there!

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ORIGINAL: Mistrix

Actually perky tits has nice tits....nicer than mine but that doesn't go to say how much she is as a person. My tits aren't the greatest but I do believe I have a good heart being a Dom and I really love that part of myself. I enjoy all there is to know about BDSM and love hearing about other people's experiences as well. I do hate it when someone jabs someone else down though....that makes me think about myself. If I am going to jab someone else then there is something in ME that I don't like. There is enough war and crap in this world...why don't we just all spank each other and make up?? I love happy endings, dont' you??
Yada SISTERS!!

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/6/2006 9:15:13 AM

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good point. they do look more like udders, don't they?

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ORIGINAL: LadyMorgynn
Unless we want to bash Perky Tits some more, in which case I'm all for it <g>

Hey i would never bash perky titties, granted they arent sloppy enough to throw over her shoulders, (yet), but they are not perky either in my opinion.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/6/2006 9:34:55 AM

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MsSophie
Well , it is refreshing to see somebody beginning to admit the facts, pro dommes do indeed work in the sex trade, and yet somehow you still cling to the strange concept that this is in some way not a form of prostitution.
I swear, the entire line of arguement about not doing this or that is about as inane as Bill Clinton's claiming oral sex isn't sexual relations.

MysticalPhoenix
Wow!!! that pretty much covers all the sniffy middle-class stereotypes of hookers doesn't it. And I am afraid you missed the point, they are not prostitutes (or worse hookers/whores....why are those words worse, they mean the same damned thing) because they charge for something that should be free, they are prostitutes (or perhaps I should try to be less obtuse, and say sex-trade workers)because they charge for a form of sex.
There is nothing wrong with charging for sex, it does however make one a sex-trade-worker/prostiute/hooker/whore, whatever term you prefer just as charging to fix a car makes you a mechanic....those words you attach so much opprobrium to are simply the words that describe somebody who sells sexual services, in whatever form.

PrinceSitri
I think you are right about it being the illegality that drives the pros to pretend they are not what they are.

Mistrix
The reason you haven't heard one word about female supremacy in this thread is because this thread is not about that. And as for which gender is the superior, women may indeed be able to do all those things, but I think men deserve a lot of credit for putting up with them without killing them or themselves. (see, men can be bitchy as well when we want to).

Everybody
Thank you for slapping whathername down for being such a fool, she does have rather nice tits, but then again, considering she payed for them (or rather her non-financial slaves did) they should be nice, that is assuming you like fake boobs (I don't). What struck me is that she claims that her services are not sexual, and yet her profile is full of pics of her flashing her tits, and she is painted up like a $2 whore.

Just to make sure that I am being clear, I have no issue with pros being pros, nor do I have an issue with them being on collarme, or really with their rather pathetic attempts to advertise on the regular forums....it's no skin off my ass, and is often laughable.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/6/2006 9:42:43 AM

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Hah! My first thought on seeing those pics were that they were fakes. But then again, I'm not an expert on the subject, being straight and all ;) What she means by her services not being sexual is probably that there is no intercourse or touching of genitals, but the guy gets turned on by what she does... meaning we're back to our lapdancer and stripper correlation. Who also tend to be dressed down and painted up.

I did notice, however, that she listed "financial domination" in her profile, despite her stating here that she was not into financial slavery. I wonder how she splits that hair?

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Everybody
Thank you for slapping whathername down for being such a fool, she does have rather nice tits, but then again, considering she payed for them (or rather her non-financial slaves did) they should be nice, that is assuming you like fake boobs (I don't). What struck me is that she claims that her services are not sexual, and yet her profile is full of pics of her flashing her tits, and she is painted up like a $2 whore.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/6/2006 9:50:37 AM

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I wonder how she splits that hair?

Very carefully I suspect

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/6/2006 10:01:47 AM

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First, the titties look fake to me. Someone who surgically modifies their body for 'improved' appearances giving advice on healthier living just doesn't jive for me.
EDIT: Dang, I was beat to the 'fake' thing. Glad to see I wasn't the only one who noticed!

Second,
I provide a service.
I'm paid for what I do.
I work odd hours, and even work overnight.
I physically touch -even the genitalia- of my 'clients'.
I care for them physically;
I care for them mentally.
I have a 'relationship' of a form with them.
I kiss and hug my 'clients'.
I look after their personal belongings.
I choose what they wear.
I'm responsible for their hygene.
I tell them what they can and cannot eat.
I tell them when to go to bed, and when to get up.
I can bring pleasure,
and I carefully watch the amount of pain they suffer
Sometime I'm the one inflicting that pain--albeit not with intent.
I can bring a smile to my 'clients', simply by acknowledging their existance.
I can mak them feel useful and worthwhile.
Likewise, I can make them feel less-than-human.
I control a significant portion of their lives.

And again, I'm paid for all these services I provide.

A Pro-Domme is touted as a prostitue for taking payment for many of these same services. Should I be tagged the same?

What am I?

I'm a nurse in a long-term care facility.

It's all in the perspective.

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