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What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/4/2006 11:53:16 AM

spoiledbrat

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Hi Everyone,

I have to get something off my chest because it seems to be bothering me just a bit much these days.

I have been on collarme for close to three years, and 2 plus years I worked as a pro sub/escort with a professional website and national reviews on review boards.

When I was on this site I was here looking for personal not business I never even mentioned what I did for a living until not so long ago when things changed in my life.

As today as I was reading profiles and journal entries on here I came across the word "PRO" more times then I did anything else.

I saw ads from Pro Dom's looking for female clients, I saw oh so many ProDomme's, Or Domme's looking for Money Slaves, I even saw a Pro Male Slave looking for clients. The words nothing is for free were used often.

I was under the impression that we came here for personal, to find others like ourselves who enjoy living something a bit different then maybe our neighbor. I find it in bad taste that so many people are looking for money to satisfy somebody that is on a personal site.

there is a place for everything there are sites for the pro's to post their website (i know for my site is there) and their are review boards so that others who don't mind paying can find you, and I wrong to think this is in bad taste.

Do they find work on this site? Do females really pay Dom's to play with them? Do pro male slave's actually find woman that pay for them or men?

Am I the only one who feels this way, I happen to really enjoy this site and all the people I have meet on here, I just find as of lately that everyone is looking for money and not something a bit deeper.

Who knows, I always say Opionions are like assholes, Everybody has one.

Sorry if I have disrespected anyone on the site that is a pro using a personal site to make money, I just kinda think it is wrong.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/4/2006 12:12:02 PM

MistressSassy66

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quote:

ORIGINAL: spoiledbrat

Hi Everyone,

I have to get something off my chest because it seems to be bothering me just a bit much these days.

I have been on collarme for close to three years, and 2 plus years I worked as a pro sub/escort with a professional website and national reviews on review boards.

When I was on this site I was here looking for personal not business I never even mentioned what I did for a living until not so long ago when things changed in my life.

As today as I was reading profiles and journal entries on here I came across the word "PRO" more times then I did anything else.
I saw ads from Pro Dom's looking for female clients, I saw oh so many ProDomme's, Or Domme's looking for Money Slaves, I even saw a Pro Male Slave looking for clients.   The words nothing is for free were used often.

I was under the impression that we came here for personal, to find others like ourselves who enjoy living something a bit different then maybe our neighbor.   I find it in bad taste that so many people are looking for money to satisfy somebody that is on a personal site.

there is a place for everything there are sites for the pro's to post their website (i know for my site is there) and their are review boards so that others who don't mind paying can find you, and I wrong to think this is in bad taste.

Do they find work on this site?   Do females really pay Dom's to play with them?   Do pro male slave's actually find woman that pay for them or men?

Am I the only one who feels this way, I happen to really enjoy this site and all the people I have meet on here, I just find as of lately that everyone is looking for money and not something a bit deeper.

Who knows, I always say Opionions are like assholes,   Everybody has one.

Sorry if I have disrespected anyone on the site that is a pro using a personal site to make money, I just kinda think it is wrong.

Actually I have found several here that pay 3 of which are celebrating 1 year of service.I have a profile on many sites,some of them I am a member and I pay to belong,some I dont.I have a Yahoo profile and a Local club I started.There are no rules about Pros joining any site(rules I have seen have to do with posting the words sex or a money amount),as far as I know.

I have met people on CM that are like minded and not all of them have become 'clients',if you will.

I'm not sure if your aware that CollarMe has a section for Professional Services,that would indicate they Welcome Pros of any kind.

For some it may start of as a Professional relationship that turns Personal.

Just so you know I for one am not offended for I feel I have as much right to be here as you do.
Different opions make the world go round

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/4/2006 12:23:07 PM

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My Miss found me here, she is a Pro, though she states in her profile that she is a pro, she came her to find a personal and nothing more. I agree that there are many here who are looking for "clients". Just like any board or club or munch or personals site, if you see something you dont like you move on.

Just this girls thoughts on a subject of interest to her.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/4/2006 12:47:54 PM

Arpig

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meh!...a whore is a whore is a whore

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/4/2006 12:57:27 PM

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Thank you for not taking offense to what I wrote, I do know that they have a place on the forums for the pro's to post. My thing was with the profiles and so many of them may not say the words, but the words they use (not all but some sound worse).

As I have been on both sides of the fence as I have worked as pro for over 2 plus years, I guess I just always kept my business on business sites.

But like we all agree we are all entitled to our opinions on things.

As you I see are a pro domme, I can not include you in the catagory of so many of the young domme's (young 20's) just calling themselves pro because it make's them feel better. Or some of the harsher one's that are older, I read one lady come right out and ask or say if you can not buy her a new house then dont bother her.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/4/2006 12:58:58 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Arpig

meh!...a whore is a whore is a whore

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Yes and no. It's really semantics. What is the definition of sex? What is the definition of prostitution? In some states professional domination is specificly defined as prostitution. In other states, it's legal. If a prodomme firmly believes that she is selling sex, but her client firmly believes that he's buying it, it means they define sex differently. Who's right? Are nude dancers whores? What about in places like tampa where they will get right in your lap and you can touch anything you want for a few extra bucks? What about the gold digger who trades her hot little booty for a king size rock and a villa on the ocean? What is she?

Frankly, I find it ludicrous that any form of sexuality involving consenting adults could be illegal. A person's body should be theirs to do with what they please, including selling it for pleasure.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/4/2006 1:15:09 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Arpig

meh!...a whore is a whore is a whore

Oh no its the dreaded impression the word Pro = whore

While it may be hard to believe there are submissives that dont get or even want sex (the sissies I have dont want sex) as part of a session.There is a thing called Orgasm Denial,they even have devices you can get,so your submissive cant cheat.

Where does it say that Pro stands for sexual encounter.Perhaps I'm the exception but I have very strict rules about sex and any kind of touching Me.I have a personal slave for those activites,paying submissives do not get sex.

That would be "sex" as defined by the State of Maine.Trust Me when I say I dont need to go to jail,I dont want to go to jail.For Myself I like My job enough to make sure I do it right and obey the rules.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/4/2006 1:35:39 PM

SirKenin

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Last I knew, you were not allowed to have anything about being a pro in your profile. Some have slipped under the radar and some were here before the rule changed. I am sure that a moderator viewing this thread will report Sassy and her profile will be reviewed.

As for Me, I could care less one way or the other. I think they are leeches that take advantage of people and cash in on a good thing, destroying the good name of BDSM, but that is their problem. Ever hear of the rental car agency "Rent A Wreck?"

If you are that pathetic that you have to pay for it to get some, you have what is coming to you. You will not find Me standing up for you. You made your bed, you lie in it. I am sure that some people really get off on it though, but it would not surprise Me if they did it because they could not find something better somewhere else. That is usually the way it works. The human race as a whole does not typically pay for something if they can get it for free.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/4/2006 1:51:56 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SirKenin

As for Me, I could care less one way or the other. I think they are leeches that take advantage of people and cash in on a good thing, destroying the good name of BDSM, but that is their problem. Ever hear of the rental car agency "Rent A Wreck?" If you are that pathetic that you have to pay for it to get some, you have what is coming to you. You will not find Me standing up for you. You made your bed, you lie in it. I am sure that some people really get off on it though, but it would not surprise Me if they did it because they could not find something better somewhere else. That is usually the way it works. The human race as a whole does not typically pay for something if they can get it for free.

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You don't approve of capatalism? Supply and demand, my friend. There are still places you can go where they don't allow capatalism. Contact your travel agent. As for paying for what you can get for free? How about cable television? Bottled water? Now they are trying to get us to pay for radio. Can bottled air be far behind?

And in conclusion... "the good name of BDSM"???? We are NOT living on the same planet. Bunch a friggin perverts you all are. Thank God!

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/4/2006 2:01:13 PM

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Hi all.
And thanks as always for such interesting subject matter. It seems like there are many more Pro Dommes that are female. I haven't seen quite so many men advertising as Pro Dommes here or anywhere else. In terms of someone being pathetic for paying for it... it seems like for someone (like myself) who's so new to this lifestyle that substituting money for sex could be a viable option (for the record I haven't and don't plan on it). There's a wide range of people and experiences out there and most Doms seem to want sex to be a part of it. Perhaps subs who pay are just trying to experience as much as possible without the inherent risk of too many sex partners. Any thoughts?

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/4/2006 2:10:52 PM

MadamShy

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I come here to collar Me to find personal slaves .. altho I am also a Pro....

a Whore ? No more than a physical therpist ...

I don't have sex with My clients..

some do not wish to have that personal collar thing and want it to be a non commitment relationship ... some wish a scene to be as They want ... to top from the bottom have you and this is the best way for them to get what they wish. also a few are married and can not commit themselves to a collar as they have one already that is there marriage license .[not including open marriages that know about the others kink]

it is a service ...simple .... a paid service and if professional about it ... it can be respectful

besides ... WHO is sez there God and can say there Kink is the best ... thats right NO one ...

if some wish to pay thats there business ... theres and the Dominates ...

as I heard a friend say ... don't be haten ... for loven is so much more fun

in conclusion ... hate Me love Me ... what the fuck do I care I don't even know you

Madam Shy
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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/4/2006 2:14:29 PM

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I haven't seen any male Pro Dommes - but I've run across the odd male Dom.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/4/2006 2:21:23 PM

michaelGA

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my opinions on this site about ProDommes are practiaclly legendary. i won't rehash them here as too many people would linch me for it. i will say this though, as long as i'm not being asked, requested or demanded to pay to serve a Mistress, i'm fine with them (ProDommes) comeing here looking for something a little deeper than what's in other's wallets or purses. there are plenty of people out there (Dominants and submissives alike) that seek someone "free".

there's a place for everything and everything in their place...i have always been told.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/4/2006 2:43:55 PM

GreedyEvilBych

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well no one has to like or agree with anyone else on here but its great when we can accept one another for what that person does or enjoys without name calling and degrading someone who doesnt enjoy it. I am a Pro domme as well as a lifestyle domme...I have a live in that I married...I NEVER EVER EVER allow my subs to touch me in a sexual manner...and YES that includes oral worship and sass worship. With that being said, most of my subs are sissies and foot worship boys...and I am glad that I can pick and choose who I am compatible with and allow them to serve me....but one cannot be labled a whore when she isnt having sex.... ITs sad that there are still people who believe that just because someone is a PRO that she automatically "needs money" or doesnt have a job, or an education, or that she fucks her subs...I dont know of a sub who considers himself worthy of me sexually, and wouldnt dare ask....and I dont believe any Pros are ruining bdsm. they have been around for many years....and bdsm is still around.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/4/2006 2:57:35 PM

Arpig

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quote:

it is a service ...simple .... a paid service and if professional about it ... it can be respectful

So are blow jobs out behind the bar..don't get me wrong, I don't in anyway disrespect you for being a pro, i am just a little tired of the BS...

quote:

No more than a physical therpist ...

Yeah right!!! Come on, you are a sex worker, and that is all there is to it, it doesn't matter if you have intercourse or not, the point is you provide a sexual service for money. Like fastlane said, its legal in someplaces, and in others its not, that and the legal definition of prostitution in any given jurisdiction are irrelevant, it is what it is, and therefore you are what you are, stop mincing words and just be honest about it for God's sake.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/4/2006 2:58:35 PM

Arpig

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we are all odd

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/4/2006 3:01:45 PM

MistressSassy66

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quote:

ORIGINAL: spoiledbrat

Thank you for not taking offense to what I wrote, I do know that they have a place on the forums for the pro's to post. My thing was with the profiles and so many of them may not say the words, but the words they use (not all but some sound worse).

As I have been on both sides of the fence as I have worked as pro for over 2 plus years, I guess I just always kept my business on business sites.

But like we all agree we are all entitled to our opinions on things.

As you I see are a pro domme, I can not include you in the catagory of so many of the young domme's (young 20's) just calling themselves pro because it make's them feel better. Or some of the harsher one's that are older, I read one lady come right out and ask or say if you can not buy her a new house then dont bother her.

In all honesty I find those ads(buy this or that,dont bother if poor or must pay to chat) to be disrespectful to not only Pro-Dommes but Dommes in general.

I have personal D/s relationships also that have nothing to do with money or sex.

I'm not doing it to make money so I can be rich.I live a simple life and dont need wads of money to be happy.What does make Me happy is having lots of toys in the Dungeon,so yes I ask for a Tribute.
I can tell you the Tribute I ask is only a 1/3 of what most charge around here.I dont ask for a tribute if they buy something,even if what they bought isnt as much as the tribute would be.I believe in being fair and I know not everyone has loads of money to spend.I have been dubbed the "Blue Collar Domme" by some.Just for the fact I dont expect a lot financially. The devotion is by far more rewarding and I suppose the fact that some want to take care of Me finacially is an added bonus.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/4/2006 3:05:39 PM

Arpig

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Ok Greedy...
first you say:

quote:

I NEVER EVER EVER allow my subs to touch me in a sexual manner

and then you say:

quote:

most of my subs are sissies and foot worship boys

do you honestly think that they do not consider said foot worship sexual?

quote:

one cannot be labled a whore when she isnt having sex

Once again you are splitting hairs and trying oh so hard to be what youa re not...you provide a service that provides sexual relase in exchange for money...and that makes you a...????

If you don't like it, tough, find a new job, it is what it is, stop pretending. I am not one of those people who thinks pros have no right to be here, and I have, and will continue to, defend their right to be here, however I am heartily sick of the holier than thou attitude of most of the pros, the idea that what they do is somehow not prostitution, screw the semantics, you fuck thier minds, and the streetwalker screws their bodies....see the connection?

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Why do they leave out the letter b on "Garage Sale" signs?

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/4/2006 3:08:46 PM

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Absolutely correct, Arpig - a whore is a whore.
Here's another for your consideration - It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.

If a pro domme has made it perfectly clear that she is a professional, I don't see the need to make it my business where she posts or how she gets her clients. If it bothers you, don't piss and moan and play victim - flag them up to the management of the site, I'm sure they are capable of dealing with it in whatever way they see fit.

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RE: What is the Deal with all the Pro's - 4/4/2006 3:27:37 PM

MistressSassy66

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Arpig

quote:

it is a service ...simple .... a paid service and if professional about it ... it can be respectful

So are blow jobs out behind the bar..don't get me wrong, I don't in anyway disrespect you for being a pro, i am just a little tired of the BS...

quote:

No more than a physical therpist ...

Yeah right!!! Come on, you are a sex worker, and that is all there is to it, it doesn't matter if you have intercourse or not, the point is you provide a sexual service for money. Like fastlane said, its legal in someplaces, and in others its not, that and the legal definition of prostitution in any given jurisdiction are irrelevant, it is what it is, and therefore you are what you are, stop mincing words and just be honest about it for God's sake.

In My book no sex means Oral,Anal and using Hands.
Is a Sex Therapist a whore?They dont touch you but they certainly give you things to do.
A Massage Therapist does touch you they must be whores.

Bondage is not a sexual service.Pissing on someone is not sexual either.
I dont see penises getting hard when they are getting beaten with a wooden spoon.I suppose that means I'm a whore because they pay for that.

I have a hard time seeing that the BDSM Lifestyle is just about sex.Those of you who do are truly missing something wonderful.

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