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RE: Iceland Volcano and the Grounding of European Flights - 4/16/2010 9:21:16 AM   
kittinSol


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Yup... flight is offically cancelled.  There goes our birthday trip to Nice and Monaco.
Poop, and double poop.

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That sucks monstrously - I'm sorry to hear that :-( .

I've been following this and it's quite bad, isn't it? Some experts say the disruptions could last up to six months. People are being advised to stay indoors or to wear a mask if they asthma and/or allergies... Between this and the earthquakes, it's starting to feel like the end of the... *shuts up* (I don't want to get the conspiracy theorists all riled up lol).

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RE: Iceland Volcano and the Grounding of European Flights - 4/16/2010 9:33:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yup, it's not good here at all.
All airports are grounded except a few in Scotland and Ireland which are taking non commercial and emergancy type flights.  Ports and Eurostar are fully booked with backlogs - they haven't even offered us alternatives now because we aren't classed as an emergancy like others either trying to get back home or need to travel for business.

It's not a disaster, because we can go another time, but it's still disappointing and been booked for ages (as you know) and was booked inbetween both our birthdays.

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RE: Iceland Volcano and the Grounding of European Flights - 4/16/2010 9:56:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		No one should worry. President Obama, working with the EPA and the global warming cabral...er....science community... is preparing emergency legislation with the Congress. He has directed the EPA to immediately order a 64% reduction in volcanic emissions, with the remaining 36% to be phased out over the next 6 weeks.

This effectively means that the volcanoes, previously created by ex-President Bush and whose eruption was clearly the fault of that ex-President's policies, will meet Tier III emissions standards immediately, and the Tier IV standards will be rushed into early application.

"We must once and for all end this scourge of volcanic emissions. I have therefore allocated $3.6 trillion, to help in the promotion of new technologies to end the world volcanic scourge. This will create over 945 million new jobs here in the United States alone. So of course, we will need to speed through the Congress, immigration legislation that will allow us to bring in skilled foreigners to populate these new exciting industries, and to allow current aliens to remain. This is no time for petty party bickering. In order to fund this legislation, the income tax rate for anyone we consider wealthy will be raised to 107%. I know this will be a harship for people who actually work and earn money, but the catastrophe is clear and we must act now."

The President warned that if  the volcanoes do not comply, President Obama will nationalize them.

In the Republican response to the President's call to action....there was rare agreement from across the political aisle.  Speaking for the Republicans, former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin hailed the President's plan for bringing in immigrants to deal with the issue. "Clearly, if we bring in that many aliens, we can stuff them down the into the volcanoes to choke and seal the volcano and thus end the threat. The President can count on my support on this one".

Film at 11......

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RE: Iceland Volcano and the Grounding of European Flights - 4/16/2010 10:27:29 AM   
RCdc


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Status: offline 		Honestly - I don't usually get involved in things like this but your puerile and shitty attempt at a political poke is fucking unwelcome.  Take your immature and pathetic attempt to hijack a thread into Politics or Random stupidity.
Do you really think that the British or any other country really CARE about Republican or Democratic cock posturings?  This isn't just about the good ole US of A, it's about a country being flooded and destroyed because of an 'act of god'. It's about the hundreds of people stranded in different parts of the world who cannot get home.  It's about the hundred and thousands of pounds lost by business and individuals due to inability to import and export.
So don't give me and others your crass attempt convey a political opinion that frankly - SUCKS.  So fuck off outta here.

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RE: Iceland Volcano and the Grounding of European Flights - 4/16/2010 1:47:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Dark, I am truly sorry to hear you have been affected by this natural disaster, but it does cheer me that the powers that be have taken this precaution of grounding aircraft, it could not have been a light decision based upon the mess it would cause, but I feel they did the right thing, those engines act like massive vacuum cleaners to do their stuff. As to your comment above about the cock posturing of some, I agree, and moreso, I have noticed on this website there seems to be more and more of it, everything, no matter what the subject is about, seems to attract those that will argue the minutae of politics.To me, it comes across in their vitriolic ramblings they are very unhappy people who come here to vent and pick fights with others so they can feel some control and mastery in their lives. Myself, when I come across a thread that has degenerated into a cock comparing contest, I give up and go elsewhere on the web.

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RE: Iceland Volcano and the Grounding of European Flights - 4/16/2010 6:49:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		A most unusual evening this evening, the moon as it was reminded me of the middle eastern desert, the sickle and it's colour from the dust in the air. Cars had a thin film of sandy looking dust on them which when a finger run across, came up black, much of what was described as the stuff found in the Shetlands this morning.This evening, I felt as if sand was in my eyes, they felt gritty and annoyed and I was sneezing on the way to the pub, too early for hayfever, If I still get it anymore. Tonight we saw a meteorite streak across the sky, but moving far slower than any before and with it, it was large and glowing a bright green, maybe the ash in the atmosphere had slowed it some and permitted it to burn what stuck as it fell out to sea. Interesting times as far as natural phenomena goes.

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RE: Iceland Volcano and the Grounding of European Flights - 4/16/2010 7:32:40 PM   
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RE: Iceland Volcano and the Grounding of European Flights - 4/16/2010 8:20:38 PM   
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Tonight we saw a meteorite streak across the sky, but moving far slower than any before and with it, it was large and glowing a bright green, maybe the ash in the atmosphere had slowed it some and permitted it to burn what stuck as it fell out to sea. Interesting times as far as natural phenomena goes.


Hi, Aneirin,

It's unlikely the meteorite hit any ash. Most meteorites burn up at altitudes higher than 30 or 40 miles, and the ash is nowhere near that high. The green that you saw was probably an unusual refraction of the light, caused by the ash in the lower levels of the atmosphere.

It wouldn't have been slowed by the ash, either, for the same reason. My guess is that you saw an unusually large meteorite, which took longer to burn up and thereby gave the illusion of moving more slowly. That would also account for the unusual brightness.

But all pedantry aside, it had to have been an incredibly cool sight to see. I would imagine we'll start seeing more interesting sunsets on this side of the ocean shortly, if this keeps up much longer.


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RE: Iceland Volcano and the Grounding of European Flights - 4/16/2010 8:37:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		That's interesting timing, considering the whopper that lit up over the Midwest earlier this week: http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/midwest-meteor-91121669.html

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RE: Iceland Volcano and the Grounding of European Flights - 4/16/2010 10:23:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		They said on the news that flights will be cancelled for another day. Thousands of flights per day are being affected.
Watch oil prices take a dive again as jet fuel backs up in the system.

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RE: Iceland Volcano and the Grounding of European Flights - 4/17/2010 2:52:07 AM   
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Just found out my cousin's stuck in Paris after a business meeting, still trying to get back to London.


I heard this morning that all the French airports were also closed now.  I hope he isn't stuck at the airport and managed to get a bed somewhere.

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RE: Iceland Volcano and the Grounding of European Flights - 4/17/2010 5:54:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		She's still in her hotel but she needs to travel constantly for business. She just opened the London business, she lives in the NY metro area, and her mother's in Israel. I never know where she is from one day to the next.

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RE: Iceland Volcano and the Grounding of European Flights - 4/17/2010 9:04:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		The smoke is nothing to do with a volcano. The smoke is from the billions of pounds of British money that the bloody vikings there are burning rather than pay the UK back their bank deposits. I know these things, - and they nicked all our cod.  We should deport Bjork at once.

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RE: Iceland Volcano and the Grounding of European Flights - 4/17/2010 11:19:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well us "bloody vikings" would have happily paid whatever we legally owe from the Icesave disaster had the UK and Dutch governments not tried to up the pricetag of about 80%  and used borderline ethical measures to push us into accepting a contract with ridiculous interest they all know we cannot possibly pay and do not have to pay according to EU laws.  If your government hadn't wasted all this time and credibility bullying us into accepting illegal contracts you'd have all your money back from us by now, which we are quite frankly happy to pay.
And it it thanks to our victory in the Cod wars you still can have some cod on your plate because the lack of proper regulation of fisheries by the british through the decades has left most of your seas empty.



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RE: Iceland Volcano and the Grounding of European Flights - 4/17/2010 12:53:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, I just found out that my mother and sister will not be able to fly back any sooner than thursday (they were supposed to come home tommorow) at the earliest. Now I'm hearing reports about a second volcano? Cripes! They may end up having to live in Amsterdam!

The thing that really sucks is that if anyone in my family deserves to be stuck in Amsterdam - it's me!

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RE: Iceland Volcano and the Grounding of European Flights - 4/17/2010 1:56:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe there is a website somewhere where people stranded in different cities can arrange to swap apartments for a while?

Have any of the cruise lines spotted the business opportunity?

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RE: Iceland Volcano and the Grounding of European Flights - 4/17/2010 3:44:39 PM   
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Maybe there is a website somewhere where people stranded in different cities can arrange to swap apartments for a while?

Have any of the cruise lines spotted the business opportunity?


I do know that a friend of mine on the East Coast has contacted the British Embassy and offered to take in a few stranded travelers if need be. I don't know yet whether they've taken him up on it, but it sounded like a pretty cool idea to me. I'm thinking of doing the same.


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RE: Iceland Volcano and the Grounding of European Flights - 4/17/2010 4:56:22 PM   
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Well us "bloody vikings" would have happily paid whatever we legally owe from the Icesave disaster had the UK and Dutch governments not tried to up the pricetag of about 80%  and used borderline ethical measures to push us into accepting a contract with ridiculous interest they all know we cannot possibly pay and do not have to pay according to EU laws.  If your government hadn't wasted all this time and credibility bullying us into accepting illegal contracts you'd have all your money back from us by now, which we are quite frankly happy to pay.
And it it thanks to our victory in the Cod wars you still can have some cod on your plate because the lack of proper regulation of fisheries by the british through the decades has left most of your seas empty.





Agreed on the Icesave catastrophe.

On the fish stocks though, I think you'll find the Spanish vacuum cleaner trawlers are responsible for our sparkling, fish free waters, courtesy of the flawed EU fisheries policy. When you join, if they let you that is, you'll get the same benefit.

Setting off volcanoes however is just bad sportsmanship. I know the Icelandic government is responsible for this as a deliberate act - my favourite conspiracy website has all the evidence to prove it.

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RE: Iceland Volcano and the Grounding of European Flights - 4/17/2010 5:21:21 PM   
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Maybe there is a website somewhere where people stranded in different cities can arrange to swap apartments for a while?

Have any of the cruise lines spotted the business opportunity?


At this point I'm wondering if it may not come down to them taking a boat home. Now see, if it was me, I'd take a boat across the Channel and start looking up the British Wing of Collarme to see if I could find a pad to crash... uhm, or is that crib to flop in Brit, I'm not really sure how far behind the times I am in current Brit slang.


The website idea is pretty good. It has a nice people driven feel to it that appeals to my Libertairian instincts. Truth is, situations like this bring out both the best and worst in people and the media usually tends to focus on the worst but in any natural disaster there are always shinning examples of people simply reaching out to people in need (remember the Canadian town that got all the airplane people dumped on them during 9-11?). I have faith that that will be the case here. At this point I still remained concerned but not overly worried about my mother and sister. Like I said, they are both smart women (even if their idea of fun in Amsterdam is not the same as my idea of fun in Amsterdam ) who know how to take care of themselves.

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RE: Iceland Volcano and the Grounding of European Flights - 4/17/2010 5:25:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		The ferries are fully booked Marc, as is the Eurotunnel. Though most people are fixated on the crossings to and from Kent and it might be less busy on a route like Hook of Holland to Harwich ("Harritch"), operated by Stena Lines if you want to look it up.

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