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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/15/2010 10:28:52 PM

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No Rich....all I'm doing is l;istening to the partiers themselves warning Republicans who are not "conservative enough" that they will be placing a bullseye on their backs too.
This is no secret and no democratic talking point...this is how these people have chosen to do business.It's divisive and its bullshit.

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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/15/2010 10:46:07 PM

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Siddhārtha F-ing Gautama!

Brown is EXACTLY who he said he is! He's also voting EXACTLY how he said he would vote.

I know that's a novel idea for politicans but worry not... were he to gain a national following and secure say The Republican POTUS nod, I am sure the left will jump right back on the "Brown is a wacko right wing extremist" bandwagon.

Get serious, if he strays that far from the reservation, he'll never get the nomination.

AND of course, I have never read or heard anybody at all ever say or write at anytime, that Brown was a 'wacko right wing extremist.'

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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/15/2010 10:47:44 PM

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Considering the spending habits of some 'safe-district' Repubs during the last administration, Mike, I'm not sure that is a bad thing. Last election, the Dems didn't even have a candidate in my neck of the woods. I'm up for some good primary fights. More so if it destroys the Huckabee variety Repub.

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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/15/2010 11:19:40 PM

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I've seen this play out before, Mike. The Dems will hate him again soon enough. Co-opt or destroy.

Yes, Rich, you are probably correct. But this Brown guy is one sharp cookie and one hell of a politician. He knows who got him elected - moderate Independents. He will face opposition from both Democrats and Republicans, just like Obama, because he is a centrist. There is no getting around that in a deeply divided two party system. Brown understands that his future lies not in appealing to the left or the right, but remaining popular with mainstream America. He was smart not to affiliate himself with the Tea Party as he understands that this movement is seeking to pull the Republicans further right and the rest of the country simply will not follow. He is a fiscal conservative and social liberal, exactly what he needs to be.

He is not the only Republican getting that message. Anyone notice in the news today that Charlie Christ has announced that he will be leaving the Republican Party and running as an Independent?

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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/15/2010 11:27:49 PM

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I'm not much for changing the meaning of given words or phrases.....so how about we stick with what bi-partisan does mean.
"the ability to see the utility of an idea rather than just looking at where the idea originated from"
Perhaps you would choose different words to define it.....but essentially is this not what it means?

And lets take it a little farther would not a politician operating with such a guideline come under fire from these tea partiers....doesn't the right wing of the Republican party demand absolute fidelity to certain party principals...unbending in it's rigidness?

Mike, the correct words are ideologue vs. pragmatist

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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/16/2010 5:19:46 AM

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Where do you get off correcting my word choice.....

.Damm brainy woman just can't mind their own business.

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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/16/2010 5:28:31 AM

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No Rich....all I'm doing is l;istening to the partiers themselves warning Republicans who are not "conservative enough" that they will be placing a bullseye on their backs too.
This is no secret and no democratic talking point...this is how these people have chosen to do business.It's divisive and its bullshit.

I like the way things are going. There seems to be no room for moderates in the republican party. Soon they will all jump ship.

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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/16/2010 6:14:07 AM

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Nah Luscious.....in my opinion that would not be such a great thing.Much better the party jettisons the fringe than the fringe run the party.America works due to a system of checks and balances...and is a dysfunctional place in the absence of these balances.We need two strong parties so as to keep each other from going too far in either direction.I'm hoping the Republicans can right their ship....but right now all I see is them taking on water and sitting lower and lower.It's a damm shame.

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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/16/2010 6:15:32 AM

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Get serious, if he strays that far from the reservation, he'll never get the nomination.

AND of course, I have never read or heard anybody at all ever say or write at anytime, that Brown was a 'wacko right wing extremist.'

I am not so sure about that. the republican party is in disaray. A moderate voice could bring them together.

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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/16/2010 6:20:01 AM

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Not as long as TV and radio talk show hosts are running the show.

Moderate positions don't get people riled up, and riled up people are good for ratings.

Until the lemmings wake up, we can expect business as usual. And the lemmings LIKE being riled up--it gives them the perception of doing something.

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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/16/2010 6:56:04 AM

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He is not the only Republican getting that message. Anyone notice in the news today that Charlie Christ has announced that he will be leaving the Republican Party and running as an Independent?

Hasn't happened. There is a lot of speculation that he will but as of yet he has not.

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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/16/2010 7:11:53 AM

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Christ will do what is best for Christ...he is an opportunist plain and simple!

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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/16/2010 7:22:27 AM

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Be that as it may, at this moment he has not left the republican party and to say otherwise is not true.. What is fueling the speculation is his no comment on the subject.

The thought is if he does it will happen on the 30th which is the last day to file the papers. It is also the last day of the legislative session.

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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/16/2010 10:59:11 AM

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I never said he left the party. I only said he made the announcement that he would. I have not presented anything that is unfactual.

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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/16/2010 11:53:19 AM

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And when did he make that announcement?

The trick is the way things are structured in FL he can run as an independent in the general election and still be a republican. He doesn't have to leave anything to run. The thought currently is that he is going to do just that, but his only comment has been "No comment" or "I am a Republican".

If it happens, it is expected to not be announced until the 30th which would be the last day to file which also just happens to be the last day of this legislative session.

I don't know where you got these facts from, but here in Florida that is exactly how it has been reported. What everyone expects at this moment and what he has actually announced or two different things.

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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/16/2010 2:04:35 PM

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Maybe not quite double yours, or half of mine

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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/16/2010 2:21:13 PM

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I saw a press conference he gave on CNN yesterday. Any information I have is public domain. You apparently are misreading what I said.

<edited to add that if what you are disputing is whether there was an actual announcement that he was definitely leaving the GOP or whether the annoucement was that he was considering a mid-term run as an Independent, then my original post concerns the latter. If that was not clear, then my apologies.>

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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/16/2010 3:19:56 PM

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Shit,now I'm confused?

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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/16/2010 3:29:21 PM

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That's why they call it spin.

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RE: Has Scott Brown turned out to be a blessing in disg... - 4/16/2010 3:31:21 PM

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Mike, my original post was not clear so now I'm trying to set the record straight. Christ did not say explicitly that he was leaving the GOP. My first post was meant to make a statement of the speculation surrounding his intent, but apparently the post does not read that way. He will not announce his decision as to whether or not he will run as an Independent until the end of the month. Got it now?

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