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RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 - 4/20/2010 7:12:20 AM   
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Some of us uncouth Americans do not make good subjects to the broken down crown.

If you are free why do you need a passport Mr American?

You are not free, you are confined to your house and only allowed out if your mom lets you.

These can talk about wordage but this is academic because it's the practical reality that counts.


Parts/components of my life is free.  Not all of it- but a few.  I have more then one passport.   But really- there is no need to ever leave America. We are a vast region- full of creative people. Parts of the US will be just fine in this current depression.

I do not make the rules. I find the path of least resistance to me with in the existing rules.

Did I ever make mistakes?  You bet I did.

Did I ever get it precisely right?  For sure.

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RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 - 4/20/2010 7:18:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		The world is your home but you let people tell you which parts of it you can live in.

Was you born to be instantly restricted in such a way? People have illusions of freedom, if the illusion extends beyond the limit of what they care about then they get by.

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RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 - 4/20/2010 7:26:51 AM   
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The world is your home but you let people tell you which parts of it you can live in.

Was you born to be instantly restricted in such a way? People have illusions of freedom, if the illusion extends beyond the limit of what they care about then they get by.


Sure- I have degrees on the wall.

Then I learned the rest of it.  I would like a refund for the $ I paid in college. 

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RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 - 4/20/2010 7:33:25 AM   
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Sure- I have degrees on the wall.

Written on your thermostat?

Mine has a dial I keep it at 20.

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RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 - 4/20/2010 8:38:50 AM   
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wrong answer. Please refer to question.

But please, do try again?

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well then I guess you are just going ot have to lay it all out :)



Oh no no no! I'm going to use your technique on this one - "its a secret and I'm not telling you - you have to figure it out for yourself" why its not a contract (and isnt even good for what it purports to be), and if you cant - or continue to believe it is, and regardless of what response you give, however fully adequate and convincing, I shall sit here blitheley making comments about how even a school child could comprehend this stuff..........

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RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 - 4/20/2010 8:59:54 AM   
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wrong answer. Please refer to question.

But please, do try again?

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well then I guess you are just going ot have to lay it all out :)



Oh no no no! I'm going to use your technique on this one - "its a secret and I'm not telling you - you have to figure it out for yourself" why its not a contract (and isnt even good for what it purports to be), and if you cant - or continue to believe it is, and regardless of what response you give, however fully adequate and convincing, I shall sit here blitheley making comments about how even a school child could comprehend this stuff..........

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well I dont purposely do that except to shithouse lawyers et al since they are convinced they know the extents of the law.

BUT if you want to approach it that way (EWG) I will play.

From the basis in law that I am using it is a contract.

and if you cant figger it out well thats to bad.

Do I hear IMPASSE!  LMAO

nah nah neener naw!  LOL


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RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 - 4/20/2010 9:03:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		'From the basis in law that I am using it is a contract.'

What basis would that be?

Don't forget you have already said treaties, etc. are of a different category.

 



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RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 - 4/20/2010 9:12:08 AM   
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'From the basis in law that I am using it is a contract.'

What basis would that be?

Don't forget you have already said treaties, etc. are of a different category.






we will get to that.  waiting for LE.


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RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 - 4/20/2010 9:21:30 AM   
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Since, and for hundreds of years, there were no oaths of fealty, no tribute paid the pope, and various and sundry breaches of this 'contract', and no active and jealous guarding of these rights by the papacy, the contract becomes null and void by implied consent...therefore acquiescence.

Uh you argued that out here once and thought yourself quite successful.

So, regardless......the 'contract' is asswipe.



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RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 - 4/20/2010 9:22:12 AM   
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Try this Knights Templar stuff here and you are going to get totally confused feedback. The seats of this group are hard to find ... not many will take you seriously ... mainly because they are either lazy iterweb surfers or not happy when there's something going on that can't be "proved"

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RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 - 4/20/2010 9:24:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		The pope and the crown, Jonnie?  Hells bells, guv, you aint gettin along with no one  are ya?

LOL.

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RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 - 4/20/2010 9:27:35 AM   
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The British folk don't think they are owned?


Oh man.  Must be foggy there.



Just like the negro slave that knew it was wrong ... I am not owned.

There are foreign fucktards that think they own us ... but I am a free man.

Many simply accept their "owned" status as a fact of life ... I'd rather die than live that life.

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RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 - 4/20/2010 9:29:58 AM   
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RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 - 4/20/2010 9:32:58 AM   
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I have never been known to say any different, I'm on record on that dude.

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It is true.  This guy is for real.

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RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 - 4/20/2010 9:44:53 AM   
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You cant just stand up and make an announcement to nullify a contract and think its actually going to happen!!!!
Yes you can, you sure as fuck can when you are the king of a medieval state...you can do whatever the fuck you want, you can announce or renounce anything you fucking well please and guess what....that's the law. When Henry renounced allegiance to Rome it was fact, there was no need of a document or anything other than the king's word...that's how it worked back then.

You are correct that there was no formal repudiation of Rome, but Henry declared himself supreme head of the church in England and renounced papal authority...ergo John's little dalliance as a papal fief was no longer valid. In fact, if I am not mistaken Edward I (John's grandson) never did fealty to the Pope on his ascension to the throne, thus he rejected  Papal superiority long before Henry.




Why I come actually LOOKING for a train wreck, I'll never know......

A simple google search comes up with the following reference to a DOCUMENT:

In March 1534 the Pope eventually made his decision. He announced that Henry's marriage to Anne Boleyn was invalid. Henry reacted by declaring that the Pope no longer had authority in England. In November 1534, Parliament passed an act that stated that Henry VIII was now the Head of the Church of England.
 
Y'all can take it from there.  Play nice, boys.  I'm outta here.

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RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 - 4/20/2010 9:47:13 AM   
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Fuck the pope and fuck the crown.

Try this Knights Templar stuff here and you are going to get totally confused feedback. The seats of this group are hard to find ... not many will take you seriously ... mainly because they are either lazy iterweb surfers or not happy when there's something going on that can't be "proved"

Pirate



its propaganda.

Just like that traffic case of mine where the cop got fired for threatening to kidnap my by armed assault, they cant swallow that and proving it is impossible unless they want to go through their records and look up the ticket number to see it has no attachments to it because this shit gets tossed out.

Great scam and fraud on the people.  Those who's famous last words are prove it sort of out themselves because its my belief they know it cannot be proven and wish to misdirect the readers with the "implication" that since it cannot be proven, (at least not with out foias etc) that it is bullshit.

Any time guv is lip flappin its a lie.




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RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 - 4/20/2010 9:48:35 AM   
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'From the basis in law that I am using it is a contract.'

What basis would that be?

Don't forget you have already said treaties, etc. are of a different category.






we will get to that.  waiting for LE.



you asked for it - "even a schoolchild could comprehend this stuff"

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RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 - 4/20/2010 9:50:10 AM   
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'From the basis in law that I am using it is a contract.'

What basis would that be?

Don't forget you have already said treaties, etc. are of a different category.






we will get to that.  waiting for LE.



you asked for it - "even a schoolchild could comprehend this stuff"

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my sentiments precisely! 





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RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 - 4/20/2010 11:14:32 PM   
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Act in Restraint of Appeals




ok that was a fun read, now you can stip precisely which section or line whatever you think nullifies the ownership of of the church?  Not one word of chattels that I could find.


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RE: Concession Of England To The Pope. 1213 - 4/21/2010 7:12:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		You are really the wacko of all wackos. Reality just slips through your fingers.

Henry was king. He did as he chose. End of story. Hell, even from the Vatican side, ex cathedra isn't until the 19th century.

Guess what? The French Revolution was illegal. Blood still ran down the streets, government and law still changed. I don't think they checked with the Pope first.

You live in a paper world.

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