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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

xBrand, and exactly which "race" is it that they're worried about being profiled?

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

xBrand, and exactly which "race" is it that they're worried about being profiled?

The PC bigot speaks.
Do you really think that nonsense works?
Fact is popeye there is but one race on this planet...the human race and no matter how you spin your bigotry it is always quite obvious.
You whine like a bitch with her tit in a wringer about all dem mexicans criminals. Yup dey be commitin' all dem misdomeanors and you want the cops to stop chasing felons and direct all their attention to dem mexicans...and you want us to believe that you are not a bigot

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ORIGINAL: xbrand

The AZ immigration law, as written, gives the police extended authority in that they can stop ANYONE, or enter into any business under the pretext of seeking out illegals, and the citizen must oblige the authority to establish legitimacy.

That's it. Now, if they stop a Mexican, how do they know he is a Mexican? The color of his skin? He may be Salvatorian, or Arab......but no....Mexicans are Mexicans. They look like Mexicans, so the Mexican says, in court, it's my skin color, is why I was stopped. The police say...no we stopped white guys too, and asked for IDs. So the racial argument is nil.

Before, the police had to prove a reasonable and probably cause....now they don't... they are seeking out illegals, whoever they are, whatever they are, Mexican, Arab, Romanian, Russian Italian....whatever. The police do not have to prove anything; it is the person who must present proof they are here legally, Citizen birth certificate, SS#, Green Card. ......and if you refuse....you can argue..."I no show you nothing." then the cop says..."Okay, have a nice day." right?.... " You listen, I know my rights here, cop boy. I no need show you nothing."

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

xBrand, and exactly which "race" is it that they're worried about being profiled?

The PC bigot speaks.
Do you really think that nonsense works?
Fact is popeye there is but one race on this planet...the human race and no matter how you spin your bigotry it is always quite obvious.
You whine like a bitch with her tit in a wringer about all dem mexicans criminals. Yup dey be commitin' all dem misdomeanors and you want the cops to stop chasing felons and direct all their attention to dem mexicans...and you want us to believe that you are not a bigot

Thompson, I don't want you to believe anything.
I wouldn't want 10 million Irishmen sneaking into our country!

That would be pretty tough since there are only abut six million people live in Ireland.


You know, if you are a former LEO as you claim

Where have I made that claim?

why would you be in favor of millions of foreign nationals sneaking into our country and breaking our laws?

Where have I ever said I was in favor of that?
What I asked was why you were so hot to enforce sanctions against misdomeanors at the expense of felonies.

And if in fact we are all "one race" then the illegals and their supporters can't claim "racial profiling" can they?
You don't seem to grasp my meaning of PC bigot. You want to obscure the discussion with your own definitions of race...this makes you very PC but your bigotry shines through like a beacon.

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ORIGINAL: xbrand

factually, it is not really a certificate of birth, that is held at the city and state in which you were born, municipal mircofilm archives, what most people have is a paper issued by some church, hospital, or other, and has the recorded number of your certificate; which has been accepted as proof of birth by every state, federal, city enity in these United States. Thus born in New York City, you are a citizen of the United States, and so on.

A rose by any other name...

No certificate, whatsoever ?....prove you are a citizen then. Prove you are here legally. A No brainer dude.

As you point out later in this post all you have to do to get a copy of a birth certificate is order it and pay for it...what keeps anyone from ordering up some paper?
A no brainer dude.

If you Do Not have that paper, however, can present other ID, (SS #, Driver's license, Police Metro ID, Green Card, etc.),

All of which use a birth certificate for validation.
A no brainer dude.


if the questioning officer and Court STILL wants the birth Certificate...you are allowed a certain period of time to produce said document, by writing to the state capital in which you claim you were born, send along the search fees, with your request, in about 10 days you will receive a certified embossed COPY of your birth REGISTRATION.

Or you can do it online. What is your problem?

No problem...anyone can get anyone elses birth certificate and there is no way you can use that birth certificate to validate that you are the person named on it.
A no brainer dude

The point being objected to with this new law, is the profiling, racial way the investigations can be carried out. The police can stop, detain ANYONE, without regard to ANY probable cause. Before the law, a Mexican or any 'color' person can cry "I was stopped because I am Mexican." (or whatever)...not now.

The police are seeking ANYONE who is here illegally, no matter what color of race they are....and that gives the police vast extended powers.

Are you comfortable with the police having those vastly extended powers?
A no brainer dude







Driver's license, Greed card

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

xBrand, and exactly which "race" is it that they're worried about being profiled?

The PC bigot speaks.
Do you really think that nonsense works?
Fact is popeye there is but one race on this planet...the human race and no matter how you spin your bigotry it is always quite obvious.
You whine like a bitch with her tit in a wringer about all dem mexicans criminals. Yup dey be commitin' all dem misdomeanors and you want the cops to stop chasing felons and direct all their attention to dem mexicans...and you want us to believe that you are not a bigot

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Hey Twisty, you're the one who said we're all one race. If that is a factual statement then how can there be any "racial profiling" going on as the illegal alien supporters are trying to argue?

There is your PC bigotry again...
If you wish to jack off with the definition of the word race and make it say one thing on the up stroke and something on the down stroke please do not forget to keep some paper towels handy.

And about two years ago you claimed to be a leo and were involved in "more" than 200 aressts but you wouldn't tell us which department or agency you were with.

Is there some reason you have not posted that up for us?

P.S. I'm FAR from anything even remotely resembling "PC."
Totaly PC with the way you like to play with definitions in hopes of obscuring your festering bigotry.

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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Hey Twisty, you're the one who said we're all one race. If that is a factual statement then how can there be any "racial profiling" going on as the illegal alien supporters are trying to argue?

There is your PC bigotry again...
If you wish to jack off with the definition of the word race and make it say one thing on the up stroke and something on the down stroke please do not forget to keep some paper towels handy.

And about two years ago you claimed to be a leo and were involved in "more" than 200 aressts but you wouldn't tell us which department or agency you were with.

Is there some reason you have not posted that up for us?

P.S. I'm FAR from anything even remotely resembling "PC."
Totaly PC with the way you like to play with definitions in hopes of obscuring your festering bigotry.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Wait a minute here, wasn't it just a week or two ago that Bill Clinton and Obama said that we need to curb the hatefull political rhetoric?
And now Obama is calling Az. "irresponsable?"


I'm listening to the Howie Carr Show (WRKO 680-am Boston)
They have a poll going , "Do you approve or dissaprove of the Az law?"
The results even in ultra liberal Massachusetts, "Approve 93% Dissaprove 7%"

Pops do you realise just homw many of your [osts referrence this guy and his radio show.Change the fucking dial guy,listen to some rock and roll or something...far less harmful to the mind.

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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Hey Twisty, you're the one who said we're all one race. If that is a factual statement then how can there be any "racial profiling" going on as the illegal alien supporters are trying to argue?

There is your PC bigotry again...
If you wish to jack off with the definition of the word race and make it say one thing on the up stroke and something on the down stroke please do not forget to keep some paper towels handy.

And about two years ago you claimed to be a leo and were involved in "more" than 200 aressts but you wouldn't tell us which department or agency you were with.

Is there some reason you have not posted that up for us?

P.S. I'm FAR from anything even remotely resembling "PC."
Totaly PC with the way you like to play with definitions in hopes of obscuring your festering bigotry.

Twisty, you're the one that made the statement about "one race" not me.

I am sure you noticed that I did not refer to you as a racist...You are correctly labled as a bigot. You are the one who likes to play with the word race.


You obviously have some "interest" in this, do you have a couple of Mexican girls chained up in your basement?

Just pointing out your two faced bullshit

And as for finding that post I'm not going to waste a half hour of my time, just tell us which which dept or agency you were with.


Since you are the one who is posting bullshit it is endemic on you to produce validation or once more be shown to be full of shit.
Or are you one of those guys who has a 10 year old crown vic hidden in your back yard?

No crown vics but I do have a 1953 Ford truck.

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~FR

Maybe its time we did have to prove citizenship

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

~FR

Maybe its time we did have to prove citizenship

I would be open to discussion on that topic.

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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Hey Twisty, you're the one who said we're all one race. If that is a factual statement then how can there be any "racial profiling" going on as the illegal alien supporters are trying to argue?

There is your PC bigotry again...
If you wish to jack off with the definition of the word race and make it say one thing on the up stroke and something on the down stroke please do not forget to keep some paper towels handy.

And about two years ago you claimed to be a leo and were involved in "more" than 200 aressts but you wouldn't tell us which department or agency you were with.

Is there some reason you have not posted that up for us?

P.S. I'm FAR from anything even remotely resembling "PC."
Totaly PC with the way you like to play with definitions in hopes of obscuring your festering bigotry.

Twisty, you're the one that made the statement about "one race" not me.

I am sure you noticed that I did not refer to you as a racist...You are correctly labled as a bigot. You are the one who likes to play with the word race.


You obviously have some "interest" in this, do you have a couple of Mexican girls chained up in your basement?

Just pointing out your two faced bullshit

And as for finding that post I'm not going to waste a half hour of my time, just tell us which which dept or agency you were with.


Since you are the one who is posting bullshit it is endemic on you to produce validation or once more be shown to be full of shit.
Or are you one of those guys who has a 10 year old crown vic hidden in your back yard?

No crown vics but I do have a 1953 Ford truck.