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domiguy -> RE: What if a Domina really likes sex (5/4/2010 9:52:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyNTrainer


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You shall be thrown down and you shall be fucked hard....As God is my witness!!!


Conversationally speaking, has it ever occurred to you that rape threats aren't actually all that funny?  If you have to resort to that sort of thing to be amusing, you're doing it wrong.  Fart jokes are much funnier.  Impotent dick waving is just lame.



You dommes really need to develop a sense of humor.....ah, but that shows some sort of weakness. Which can never be shown out here.

I don't know where you have been hiding but rape threats and mocking muhammed are the rage.

Don't you ever read Cosmo or Glamour?




AAkasha -> RE: What if a Domina really likes sex (5/4/2010 9:53:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyNTrainer

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
I see now just how far you'll both go in bending those categories of dominant and submissive.


The point you're still missing is that we're not bending anything at all.  We're normal adult women with healthy sexual appetites who are also dominant, and expressing our dominance in sexual ways with our submissive partners.  If we were men and our partners were women, you would see absolutely nothing unusual at all.  That would be considered normal, since people who don't socially suppress their sex drives (eg, men) do fuck their submissives and do expect their submissives to be sexy and available for sexual use in every possible way to please them.  Being an actual dominant woman as opposed to some fucked-up stereotype from selfish male fetish fantasyland, I have no interest in suppressing myself or my normal, healthy sexual appetites.  Because, y'know, I'm not submissive, either socially or sexually.  So I own hot studs who are good for fucking.  I mean, duuuh.  That seems pretty normal to me.

The fact that you do think our expression of healthy female sexuality in a dominant way is "bending" the femdom paradigm of what dominant and submissive is "supposed" to be says that the paradigm itself is seriously fucked up, unhealthy and sex-negative. 



Yes! Yes, this is the point. And I don't know if LNT has said this explicitly already, but I will sum it up this way.  Some femdoms (this femdom, I know I speak for myself) don't want a *submissive man*, we want a *man who submits to us.*   Huge difference.  If it's against his "nature" to be seductive with me, to be sexually hungry, to desire me, to stand up to me (in the unlikely even that I am wrong, lol) then we have a problem.  A man can be a man and at the end of the day still submit to my command. 

Akasha




PeonForHer -> RE: What if a Domina really likes sex (5/4/2010 10:07:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

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ORIGINAL: LadyNTrainer

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
I see now just how far you'll both go in bending those categories of dominant and submissive.


The point you're still missing is that we're not bending anything at all.  We're normal adult women with healthy sexual appetites who are also dominant, and expressing our dominance in sexual ways with our submissive partners.  If we were men and our partners were women, you would see absolutely nothing unusual at all.  That would be considered normal, since people who don't socially suppress their sex drives (eg, men) do fuck their submissives and do expect their submissives to be sexy and available for sexual use in every possible way to please them.  Being an actual dominant woman as opposed to some fucked-up stereotype from selfish male fetish fantasyland, I have no interest in suppressing myself or my normal, healthy sexual appetites.  Because, y'know, I'm not submissive, either socially or sexually.  So I own hot studs who are good for fucking.  I mean, duuuh.  That seems pretty normal to me.

The fact that you do think our expression of healthy female sexuality in a dominant way is "bending" the femdom paradigm of what dominant and submissive is "supposed" to be says that the paradigm itself is seriously fucked up, unhealthy and sex-negative. 



Yes! Yes, this is the point.

Akasha



Yes, but as I said to LNT a few posts ago, it was a joke, Akasha.





LadyNTrainer -> RE: What if a Domina really likes sex (5/4/2010 10:54:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
For instance, I've noticed that maledoms don't seem to be overly concerned if their femsubs get ravenously randy all of a sudden and start tearing feverishly at their trousers in order to bonk, right there and then. Some little voice tells me that it might not be quite the same way if malesubs were more commonly to do the same with femdommes. I've a feeling we'd see an even larger number of threads about self-centred, 'do-me' submales who are 'topping from the bottom'.


That depends entirely on the individuals involved.  Some D/s dynamics are such that sexual aggression would not be welcome from the submissive towards the dominant.  Other couples have different dynamics where the dominant appreciates the submissive's sexual desire so much that these manifestations are welcome.

You will probably find more male doms on the "bring it on, baby" end of the spectrum, but there are definitely a lot of lifestyle femdoms who think their mansubs are sexy and who are pretty damn happy to see them hot and horny.  Now if we have a mismatch of expectations where one person is in a more sexual mindset and the other prefers nonsexual control, that's where you'd see the problem.

Honestly, I think there are probably about as many mismatches where the femdom wants a hot, horny stud to perform for her and the mansub isn't comfortable with the studly fucktoy role and wants to retreat into focused fetish play that is all about him.  I've certainly been there seen that myself. 

Passionate sex is a joyful celebration of life and of love.  It is healthy and good.  It is hot and fun.  I would not turn down such a flattering advance from one of my collared and committed partners any more than I would push them away if they wanted to give me a loving hug.  I've trained and encouraged both of them to be more freely expressive of their sexual desires towards me, because they also had the initial mindset that it was wrong for them to be sexually aggressive towards me or towards any woman whom they deeply respected and wished to serve.  Once they learned they could do this, and that it pleased me, and it had about the same effect on our D/s dynamic as a loving hug to affirm our relationship, life got a whole lot better.  [:D]




LadyNTrainer -> RE: What if a Domina really likes sex (5/4/2010 11:35:31 AM)

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ORIGINAL: domiguy
You dommes really need to develop a sense of humor.....ah, but that shows some sort of weakness. Which can never be shown out here.


I have an excellent sense of humor.  But alas, when you fail at being funny enough to provide a good laugh, you tend to become one.  [:D]




PeonForHer -> RE: What if a Domina really likes sex (5/4/2010 2:25:08 PM)

It's all right, Lady N. You had me convinced way back at "My favorite alarm clock is my boy's dick in my mouth. " [;)]





LadyAngelika -> RE: What if a Domina really likes sex (5/4/2010 4:19:09 PM)

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Some femdoms (this femdom, I know I speak for myself) don't want a *submissive man*, we want a *man who submits to us.*   Huge difference.  If it's against his "nature" to be seductive with me, to be sexually hungry, to desire me, to stand up to me (in the unlikely even that I am wrong, lol) then we have a problem.  A man can be a man and at the end of the day still submit to my command. 


My sentiments exactly.

- LA




LadyNTrainer -> RE: What if a Domina really likes sex (5/4/2010 10:43:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

It's all right, Lady N. You had me convinced way back at "My favorite alarm clock is my boy's dick in my mouth. " [;)]


Oh, that part wasn't a joke.  Did I mention he is hot?  [:D]




PeonForHer -> RE: What if a Domina really likes sex (5/5/2010 2:28:27 AM)

Sorry - I should have been clearer: I wasn't referring to your ability as a joker, I was referring to your argument.




trueshadow -> RE: What if a Domina really likes sex (5/12/2010 4:38:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Andalusite

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ORIGINAL: trueshadow
The only kind of sex I like with a Domme is if I feel she is controlling me, hurting me, and generally using and abusing me.  I just don't like the old-fashioned missionary position.  That makes me on top, and it just doesn't turn me on. 

The Dommes I know just don't seem to want to have sex with their slaves.  They may want a 'real man' to screw them, or something, but it is my opinion that it is very common in the scene for Dommes not to be that intimate with their slaves.  Perhaps oral sex, touching, massaging, and the like- but not intercourse.

That comes across like it is based in cuckholding porn, rather than in reality. I don't have sex with my submissive playpartner, but she and I aren't in a romantic relationship. When I was looking for a partner, I wanted someone who I could be sexual and romantic with, as well as kinky. D/s was optional but welcome. If someone didn't want to have sex with me and didn't desire me, but just wanted particular activities done to him that aroused him regardless of who was inflicting them, I wouldn't want anything to do with him. Sex usually involves some S/M, even if only some biting and wrestling and hairpulling and stuff, but I certainly wouldn't want to feel obligated to hurt him in order to get him off. That kind of pressure isn't sexy, and would make me feel less dominant, rather than more.


Well, I just answered how I felt.  I didn't mean it to sound as though it was cuckolding porn.  I, to a large degree, am limited to what my penis does.  If it doesn't arouse me, then Mr. Winky is just going to be yawning and using the remote. 

I really wish I had a prehensile penis, but I just haven't mastered Jedi self-control.




Andalusite -> RE: What if a Domina really likes sex (5/12/2010 6:44:02 PM)

I mentioned the cuckholding part with respect to the Dommes you know having sex with "real men" instead of their slaves. That sounds like the definition of cuckholding to me. *shrugs* Some people do call their playpartners or service-only submissives "slave," but I wouldn't use the term in that context personally.

If I started dating someone, and discovered that he wasn't attracted to me, and didn't want to have sex with me unless I indulged his kinks every time, we'd be incompatible. I wouldn't feel there was necessarily something wrong with him, or expect him to have perfect conscious control of his penis.




MZelda -> RE: What if a Domina really likes sex (7/8/2010 6:46:07 AM)

LadyNTrainer I loved what you wrote back in April. Totally agree! The whole post rocks but I love the sum up at the end:
"Sex feels good. It is a celebration and a joy. It can be dominant or submissive or vanilla depending on the emotional associations you and your partner have with what you are doing.  Giving a blowjob can be an incredibly powerful act of domination and control.   The D/s roles just aren't cemented onto any particular sex acts."
Thank you for being so sex positive.




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