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RE: Drill baby, drill? - 4/25/2010 6:15:10 AM   
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RE: Drill baby, drill? - 4/25/2010 6:16:39 AM   
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"when you're in a room full of people playing poker"

You play it ?


As of about a month or so ago. Which roughly means in my case you can currently define 'playing it' as spending $100 on lessons wherein I get my ass handed to me in less than an hour.


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RE: Drill baby, drill? - 4/25/2010 9:38:08 AM   
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It often amuses me how people can simply make up facts about a news story and try to pass it off as truth. Multiple sources of news have said there is no leak.

Yet...magically....it's 13,000 gallons an hour? Wow. That's some damned fine magic there.


It often pisses me off when people accuse me of making stuff up. If you read the article I linked to you would have found the 13k an hour number.

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RE: Drill baby, drill? - 4/25/2010 1:08:27 PM   
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It often pisses me off when people accuse me of making stuff up. If you read the article I linked to you would have found the 13k an hour number.


Take a midol, kiddo. If someone on the internet can piss you off with that simple act, you have no business on the internet.


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RE: Drill baby, drill? - 4/25/2010 3:18:00 PM   
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It often pisses me off when people accuse me of making stuff up. If you read the article I linked to you would have found the 13k an hour number.


Take a midol, kiddo. If someone on the internet can piss you off with that simple act, you have no business on the internet.


So you don't even have the basic courtesy to admit you lied. Very telling.

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RE: Drill baby, drill? - 4/25/2010 3:21:18 PM   
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So you don't even have the basic courtesy to admit you lied. Very telling.


Lied? Who lied? Did I make a claim in any way shape or form? No. I made a snide comment based on news reports I had seen up to that moment. Then when Lucy cleared things up, I indicated where the vacuum of information occurred. 

Like I said, buttercup, take a midol. You're clearly not cut out for this online thing.


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RE: Drill baby, drill? - 4/25/2010 3:23:54 PM   
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So you don't even have the basic courtesy to admit you lied. Very telling.


Lied? Who lied? Did I make a claim in any way shape or form? No. I made a snide comment based on news reports I had seen up to that moment. Then when Lucy cleared things up, I indicated where the vacuum of information occurred. 

Like I said, buttercup, take a midol. You're clearly not cut out for this online thing.


Calm down there liar and take that midol you think I need. You made a completely incorrect claim about me and I gave you a chance to retract it. You responded with insults so I called a lie a lie its really that simple. If you don't like being called on telling lies then apologize and don't do it any more.

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RE: Drill baby, drill? - 4/25/2010 3:32:36 PM   
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Calm down there liar and take that midol you think I need. You made a completely incorrect claim about me and I gave you a chance to retract it. You responded with insults so I called a lie a lie its really that simple. If you don't like being called on telling lies then apologize and don't do it any more.


Explain how I lied about you. Please, I would love to see this.

My first post in this thread said the following:

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ORIGINAL: Loki45
It often amuses me how people can simply make up facts about a news story and try to pass it off as truth. Multiple sources of news have said there is no leak.

Yet...magically....it's 13,000 gallons an hour? Wow. That's some damned fine magic there.


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Please indicate in that post where there is anything written about "Domken."

And then take that midol, or change your pad. Your hormones are clearly going haywire.

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RE: Drill baby, drill? - 4/25/2010 4:45:33 PM   
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Calm down there liar and take that midol you think I need. You made a completely incorrect claim about me and I gave you a chance to retract it. You responded with insults so I called a lie a lie its really that simple. If you don't like being called on telling lies then apologize and don't do it any more.


Explain how I lied about you. Please, I would love to see this.

My first post in this thread said the following:

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ORIGINAL: Loki45
It often amuses me how people can simply make up facts about a news story and try to pass it off as truth. Multiple sources of news have said there is no leak.

Yet...magically....it's 13,000 gallons an hour? Wow. That's some damned fine magic there.


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Please indicate in that post where there is anything written about "Domken."

And then take that midol, or change your pad. Your hormones are clearly going haywire.

Very simple liar, I was the only one to reference 13k gallons an hour. You claimed the 13k gallons per hour was made up and specifically how it was made up about a news story not in a news story. Therefore anyone who can read english can see you were attacking my original post. Now you had either not read the linked news story or had chosen to misrepresent it. I pointed out your error in my first response to you and rather than acknowledging that you were in error you attacked me again. Therefore it is reasonable to deduce that your first attack was intentional and therefore a knowing lie.

Have a nice day liar.

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RE: Drill baby, drill? - 4/25/2010 5:27:31 PM   
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Very simple liar, I was the only one to reference 13k gallons an hour. You claimed the 13k gallons per hour was made up and specifically how it was made up about a news story not in a news story. Therefore anyone who can read english can see you were attacking my original post. Now you had either not read the linked news story or had chosen to misrepresent it. I pointed out your error in my first response to you and rather than acknowledging that you were in error you attacked me again. Therefore it is reasonable to deduce that your first attack was intentional and therefore a knowing lie.

Have a nice day liar.


Are you related to Palin?

Nitwit...(can I call you nitwit?) Nitwit, you posted a LINK to an article in your first post. I didn't even click on that link. Did you write the article in the link? Hmm?

No? Then the post wasn't in reference to you. In fact, the one tiny little sentence that was supposedly authored by you in your post came from the article in the link you provided. Therefore, you provided no original information or point of view. You only posted what someone ELSE had already written.

So any comments on your first post have absolutely nothing to do with you.

So now, YOU get to be the liar. Since you're basically claiming that I called you one, when I made no direct reference to you at all. Not only are you the liar, but you're also a dimwit.

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RE: Drill baby, drill? - 4/25/2010 6:10:19 PM   
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RE: Drill baby, drill? - 4/25/2010 10:01:37 PM   
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Look at this graph and be afraid. It does not come from Earth First. It does not come from the Sierra Club. It was not drawn by Socialists or Nazis or Osama Bin Laden or anyone from Goldman-Sachs. If you are a Republican Tea-Partier, rest assured it does not come from a progressive Democrat. And vice versa. It was drawn by the United States Department of Energy, and the United States military’s Joint Forces Command concurs with the overall picture.
http://www.pdamerica.org/articles/news/2010-04-25-06-32-59-news.php


http://www.hubbertpeak.com/

Dr. Hubbert was largely ignored as a result of increasing demand for cheap, easily accessed oil.

Drill, drill drill is shortsighted and could cost more than pursuing sustainable sources.


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http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2010/04/burning_oil_rig_sinks.html

13,000 gallons an hour were spilling. No one knows how much now.

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RE: Drill baby, drill? - 4/25/2010 10:17:50 PM   
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RE: Drill baby, drill? - 4/25/2010 10:26:43 PM   
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The Imminent Crash of the Oil Supply: What Is Going to Happen and How It Came to Pass That We Weren't Forewarned

Look at this graph and be afraid. It does not come from Earth First. It does not come from the Sierra Club. It was not drawn by Socialists or Nazis or Osama Bin Laden or anyone from Goldman-Sachs. If you are a Republican Tea-Partier, rest assured it does not come from a progressive Democrat. And vice versa. It was drawn by the United States Department of Energy, and the United States military’s Joint Forces Command concurs with the overall picture.
http://www.pdamerica.org/articles/news/2010-04-25-06-32-59-news.php


http://www.hubbertpeak.com/

Dr. Hubbert was largely ignored as a result of increasing demand for cheap, easily accessed oil.

Drill, drill drill is shortsighted and could cost more than pursuing sustainable sources.


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2010/04/burning_oil_rig_sinks.html

13,000 gallons an hour were spilling. No one knows how much now.



Peak Oil is one of those bogey-men they bring up all the time. It's bunk. Back in the Global 2000 Report to President Carter in 1980 all the experts claimed that oil would peak around the year 2000 and it was all downhill from there. They were wrong. The peak oilers in 1960 were wrong.

Will there someday be a peak in pil production. Yes. Will it happen in the next decade? No. When it does happen is it doom for Earth? No.

When oil production does peak and decline, it's not going to be some major crash. It will be a very long, very slow curve. So the price of oil will rise a little, year by year every year. At some point, it will rise high enough that it will make alternative energy source cheaper than oil and then we will shift to that.

Unless before then they manage to make some alternative energy source cheaper through technical innovation - in which case we'll shift to it early.

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RE: Drill baby, drill? - 4/25/2010 11:11:45 PM   
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Very simple liar, I was the only one to reference 13k gallons an hour. You claimed the 13k gallons per hour was made up and specifically how it was made up about a news story not in a news story. Therefore anyone who can read english can see you were attacking my original post. Now you had either not read the linked news story or had chosen to misrepresent it. I pointed out your error in my first response to you and rather than acknowledging that you were in error you attacked me again. Therefore it is reasonable to deduce that your first attack was intentional and therefore a knowing lie.

Have a nice day liar.

you posted a LINK to an article in your first post. I didn't even click on that link.

So you admit you had no basis for your attack on me. Why did you think it was a good idea when you didn't know where I got the 13k data? Do you often randomly pick fights with people?


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RE: Drill baby, drill? - 4/26/2010 3:27:53 AM   
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So you admit you had no basis for your attack on me. Why did you think it was a good idea when you didn't know where I got the 13k data? Do you often randomly pick fights with people?


Nitwit, I'm going to say this one more time. It was NOT an attack on YOU. The statement you made came from the article. Therefore, you offered nothing new on the topic. The entirety of your post was nothing more than an FYI using other people's information.

As the information came not from you, but from the AUTHOR of the article, nothing I said in my first post in ANY way pertained to you.

Dump your ego, dump your hormones and then take a midol.

Here's an interesting question, do you regularly take credit for work and information that isn't yours? I'm beginning to think you do. Otherwise, my comment on the news piece wouldn't have mattered to you one bit as it had nothing to do with you. Hell, your name didn't even show up anywhere in my post. I've heard of people online being vain and egocentric...but damn. You take the cake.


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RE: Drill baby, drill? - 4/26/2010 11:32:48 AM   
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So you admit you had no basis for your attack on me. Why did you think it was a good idea when you didn't know where I got the 13k data? Do you often randomly pick fights with people?


It was NOT an attack on YOU. The statement you made came from the article. Therefore, you offered nothing new on the topic. The entirety of your post was nothing more than an FYI using other people's information.

But you admit you had not read the article. So how could you know what was or wasn't presented? So how could you attack the data presented in the article. You were clearly trying to claim that I made up the number. I'm puzzled why you thought attacking anyone without first bothering to check sources was a good idea. Or were you trying to pick a fight to obfuscate the environmental disaster unfolding right now?

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RE: Drill baby, drill? - 4/26/2010 2:56:17 PM   
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But you admit you had not read the article. So how could you know what was or wasn't presented? So how could you attack the data presented in the article. You were clearly trying to claim that I made up the number. I'm puzzled why you thought attacking anyone without first bothering to check sources was a good idea. Or were you trying to pick a fight to obfuscate the environmental disaster unfolding right now?


You're the one picking a fight by not letting it go. Lucylastic already covered this and you're dragging it out for no reason. I made a snide comment. Pure and simple. You're the one whose panties are in a bunch and refuses to let this fucking go. Honestly man....are you menstrual or what?


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RE: Drill baby, drill? - 4/26/2010 3:28:30 PM   
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But you admit you had not read the article. So how could you know what was or wasn't presented? So how could you attack the data presented in the article. You were clearly trying to claim that I made up the number. I'm puzzled why you thought attacking anyone without first bothering to check sources was a good idea. Or were you trying to pick a fight to obfuscate the environmental disaster unfolding right now?


You're the one picking a fight by not letting it go. Lucylastic already covered this and you're dragging it out for no reason. I made a snide comment. Pure and simple. You're the one whose panties are in a bunch and refuses to let this fucking go. Honestly man....are you menstrual or what?


Pardon me? I'm supposed to simply 'let go' of an assault on my character? I have shown that when I directly called you a liar it uopset you greatly and caused you to engage in further ad hominen and many evasions. If you had simply taken the shot I returned against you or apologized at any point after this would be over. Tell you what though since you seem to be having a problem just letting go of my stating the fact that you are a liar I'll assume you have learned your lesson and will stop pointing out your lies and hypocrisy if you never respond to my posts again.

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RE: Drill baby, drill? - 4/26/2010 3:35:08 PM   
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Pardon me? I'm supposed to simply 'let go' of an assault on my character?


Ok, this has reached the level of being only sad. I'm going to state this ONE MORE time. The first post I made in this thread had NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU.

YOU DID NOT WRITE THE ARTICLE.

YOU DID NOT OFFER ANY ORIGINAL THOUGHT ON THE SUBJECT MATTER.

YOU DID NOT OFFER ANY BIT OF YOURSELF IN THE OP.

MY FIRST POST NEVER MENTIONED YOUR NAME.

THEREFORE, I DID NOT ATTACK *YOU*

Fucking nimrod.

Now I'm convinced, you *are* related to palin.

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I have shown that when I directly called you a liar it uopset you greatly and caused you to engage in further ad hominen and many evasions.


Wrong again. I found you amusing, to I continued to speak. Now you're just being pathetically sad.

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If you had simply taken the shot I returned against you or apologized at any point after this would be over. Tell you what though since you seem to be having a problem just letting go of my stating the fact that you are a liar I'll assume you have learned your lesson and will stop pointing out your lies and hypocrisy if you never respond to my posts again.


Once again, you have failed to show what lie I told. There was none. You're a moron and a palin family relative who lives in your own dream world.


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