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tazzygirl -> RE: African complicity in the slave trade.... (5/4/2010 12:00:37 PM)

Nope. He worked for change, worked hard and long, and made the changes possible for more than just black people.

sorry... wrong girl, bud.




DomYngBlk -> RE: African complicity in the slave trade.... (5/4/2010 12:01:53 PM)

I think not. Same words I have been saying but you have been calling me names. Is fine. I've been called names by the likes of you before. Won't change how I believe. So keep on. I am sure you have worse words you want to call me.....




pyroaquatic -> RE: African complicity in the slave trade.... (5/4/2010 12:04:34 PM)

It does not seem we are on topic.

I don't know why men can be such dicks. Enslaving and Possessing everything the eye can see.
There seems to be a smell of irony in the air.






DomYngBlk -> RE: African complicity in the slave trade.... (5/4/2010 12:05:18 PM)

Come on tazzy. I am sure they are there on the tip of your fingers. You want to call me them. I am positive. You have been working up to it for a week. you know you want to say them....Come on




thishereboi -> RE: African complicity in the slave trade.... (5/4/2010 12:05:19 PM)

So he didn't work for change? Is that what you are saying?[8|]




DomYngBlk -> RE: African complicity in the slave trade.... (5/4/2010 12:06:32 PM)

start at the beginning stewie




tazzygirl -> RE: African complicity in the slave trade.... (5/4/2010 12:06:58 PM)

rofl

likes of me? see you have spent half this thread belittling those who dont agree with you, yet you insist everyone is "putting" you down. again, excuses.

you have insisted that the black community doesnt get the same fair shakes as the rest... that nothing is equal. its equal as long as you have money. thats the dividing line for any race. but that doesnt fit into your scenario of being able to whine. as long as money is the deciding factor, you have no excuse above or beyond anyone else who is poor. you become like every other poor person... and that doesnt seem to sit well with you. you have to be more down trodden, more abused, more neglected, and because of your skin color, so you can feel your righteous indignation

What MLK went through was injustice, on the base, moral level. Being pushed to the back of a bus because of your skin color. being told what schools you can attend, what bathrooms you can use, what water fountains you can drink from................... those are injustices no one should have ever tolerated.

Is it perfect now? Nope. would you prefer to go back to the way it was?

The race in american is money or no money. If you got money, color doesnt matter. If you dont have money, color is the excuse.




tazzygirl -> RE: African complicity in the slave trade.... (5/4/2010 12:11:19 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

Come on tazzy. I am sure they are there on the tip of your fingers. You want to call me them. I am positive. You have been working up to it for a week. you know you want to say them....Come on



lol.. im sorry, i wont feed into your delusion that everyone is a racist. other than that word, i have called you no names, and i believe the description is fitting.

but, again, you want to turn this into a "white" vs "black" issue with you seen as the victim.

sorry, im not white

sorry, you arent the victim




pyroaquatic -> RE: African complicity in the slave trade.... (5/4/2010 12:14:30 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

Come on tazzy. I am sure they are there on the tip of your fingers. You want to call me them. I am positive. You have been working up to it for a week. you know you want to say them....Come on


Idiocy does not care about the color of your skin. You are an African-American Male Dominant. That is a big step!

Bad Luck does not care about the color of skin either. I was delt a shitty first hand but my 23rd hand seems to be doing just fine. I live in Poverty. I don't know what your situation is.

I hope you had a decent family that stuck together instead of drifting apart.

Vent... because all it leads to is FUCK. Not a gentle loving FUCK but the FUCK that you scream at the top of your lungs in anger and despair.

Good Day.




thompsonx -> RE: African complicity in the slave trade.... (5/4/2010 12:16:16 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

rofl

likes of me? see you have spent half this thread belittling those who dont agree with you, yet you insist everyone is "putting" you down. again, excuses.

you have insisted that the black community doesnt get the same fair shakes as the rest... that nothing is equal. its equal as long as you have money. thats the dividing line for any race. but that doesnt fit into your scenario of being able to whine. as long as money is the deciding factor, you have no excuse above or beyond anyone else who is poor. you become like every other poor person... and that doesnt seem to sit well with you. you have to be more down trodden, more abused, more neglected, and because of your skin color, so you can feel your righteous indignation

What MLK went through was injustice, on the base, moral level. Being pushed to the back of a bus because of your skin color. being told what schools you can attend, what bathrooms you can use, what water fountains you can drink from................... those are injustices no one should have ever tolerated.

Is it perfect now? Nope. would you prefer to go back to the way it was?

The race in american is money or no money. If you got money, color doesnt matter. If you dont have money, color is the excuse.


If you believe the above is true then I would offer you a challange.
Read the book called "Black Like Me".
Follow the directions for chemically changing your skin color and curling your hair.
Then go to the mall and go about your daily life but not with your friends go to places where you tazzygirl are not known.
Do this for one year.
It could possibly change your mind.




thompsonx -> RE: African complicity in the slave trade.... (5/4/2010 12:18:46 PM)

quote:

sorry, im not white


The pic in your profile sure would let you pass...
which is always convenient.




VideoAdminZeta -> RE: African complicity in the slave trade.... (5/4/2010 12:21:25 PM)

Everyone please take a few deep breaths before typing your next post.




thompsonx -> RE: African complicity in the slave trade.... (5/4/2010 12:21:42 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: thishereboi

So he didn't work for change? Is that what you are saying?[8|]


Are you saying that MLK did not complain about the social injustice in amerika?




tazzygirl -> RE: African complicity in the slave trade.... (5/4/2010 12:22:03 PM)

Thompson, you can do that for just about anything... being fat... being disabled... being native american... being asian.

The point is you have to play the hand you are dealt. How you play that hand makes all the difference. you can either settle back and whine and carry on about how things are unfair and as a result they will enevr get any better... or you can work your ass off to make a better life for yourself. Unlike the MLK days, a better life is more of a reality. No one said it would be easy... its only easy for the "white and rich". The rest of us have to work for what we get.

Its reality.

No one said there wasnt still work to be done. But to sit around and whine and blame others for your lack of "networking" to get ahead just doesnt cut it with me.




tazzygirl -> RE: African complicity in the slave trade.... (5/4/2010 12:23:04 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx

quote:

sorry, im not white


The pic in your profile sure would let you pass...
which is always convenient.



lol... im noticably native american.




Silence8 -> RE: African complicity in the slave trade.... (5/4/2010 12:25:27 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

rofl

likes of me? see you have spent half this thread belittling those who dont agree with you, yet you insist everyone is "putting" you down. again, excuses.

you have insisted that the black community doesnt get the same fair shakes as the rest... that nothing is equal. its equal as long as you have money. thats the dividing line for any race. but that doesnt fit into your scenario of being able to whine. as long as money is the deciding factor, you have no excuse above or beyond anyone else who is poor. you become like every other poor person... and that doesnt seem to sit well with you. you have to be more down trodden, more abused, more neglected, and because of your skin color, so you can feel your righteous indignation

What MLK went through was injustice, on the base, moral level. Being pushed to the back of a bus because of your skin color. being told what schools you can attend, what bathrooms you can use, what water fountains you can drink from................... those are injustices no one should have ever tolerated.

Is it perfect now? Nope. would you prefer to go back to the way it was?

The race in american is money or no money. If you got money, color doesnt matter. If you dont have money, color is the excuse.


I don't think MLK would be 'cool with' either this characterization of his views or, more importantly, an America in which money defines your social worth.

No, what I know of MLK is that he is a lot more critical than you of the social reality that money defines. He opposed the Vietnam War, and this probably got him killed -- you really think his legacy is getting black people a little bit of respect?




tazzygirl -> RE: African complicity in the slave trade.... (5/4/2010 12:28:18 PM)

Little bit? wow... just.. wow.

Of course the man was about far more than respect. Depending on where you sat on a bus, it could have gotten you killed. Yeah, i think thats a bit more than "just" respect.




thompsonx -> RE: African complicity in the slave trade.... (5/4/2010 12:34:03 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Thompson, you can do that for just about anything... being fat... being disabled... being native american... being asian.

The point is you have to play the hand you are dealt. How you play that hand makes all the difference. you can either settle back and whine and carry on about how things are unfair and as a result they will enevr get any better... or you can work your ass off to make a better life for yourself. Unlike the MLK days, a better life is more of a reality. No one said it would be easy... its only easy for the "white and rich". The rest of us have to work for what we get.

Its reality.

No one said there wasnt still work to be done. But to sit around and whine and blame others for your lack of "networking" to get ahead just doesnt cut it with me.


The facts are that this young man has said nothing that MLK did not say yet you characterize him as a whiner and go on with your horatio alger stories.
From your profile you seem to know about the biases against native ameicans and full size people...my point is that those are but minor impediments compared to being black which is noticible from a block away.
The pics you have in your profile look like most any white woman it is only because you have told me that I know that you have the Souix heritage.
Until and unless you take my challange you will never know what it is even remotely like to be black in this country. The upside of the challange is that when it is over you are white again...and if you choose you can go on ignoring the obvious.




tazzygirl -> RE: African complicity in the slave trade.... (5/4/2010 12:39:15 PM)

Are you saying the educational system available today is the same system when MLK was alive?
That racial discrimination is still rampant and legal?
That despite the color of your skin, if you have enough money, you still cannot buy what you want?
There there are still only white officers in the military and any otrher race is seen as inferior there?

These are just a drop on a pin head of the differences between "now" and "then".

As far as my pic, i inherited my irish mother's skin color (dammit lol) the bone structure and body type are definitely native.




heartcream -> RE: African complicity in the slave trade.... (5/4/2010 12:43:18 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Thompson, you can do that for just about anything... being fat... being disabled... being native american... being asian.

The point is you have to play the hand you are dealt. How you play that hand makes all the difference. you can either settle back and whine and carry on about how things are unfair and as a result they will enevr get any better... or you can work your ass off to make a better life for yourself. Unlike the MLK days, a better life is more of a reality. No one said it would be easy... its only easy for the "white and rich". The rest of us have to work for what we get.

Its reality.

No one said there wasnt still work to be done. But to sit around and whine and blame others for your lack of "networking" to get ahead just doesnt cut it with me.


My two cents, my take on this tennis match here. DYB is not whining, name-calling and whatever yall have said about him. He is not racist or whatever else pejorative yalls said about him here.

Notice the bolded bits. Why is this either or? Why not take an afternoon or a few minutes and bawl your ol eyes out about the inequality, in justice, cruelty, hard-headed imprints buried so deep it can feel like swimming in toxic sludge round here.

Why are so many people against any expression of the exasperation, despair hopelessness that fills so many of our people whatever color gender etc? I dont get it. This buck up and face it shit has got to stop. What the Hell?

We all for the most part work hard, play the hand we are dealt daily. Why must we go around with stoic freaking presentation faces on? I call bullshit from here to the other side of the planet.

It doesnt last forever if you whine about something. If you cry about something de-hydration and exhaustion will end it before it goes on forever.

Let's soften it up here, what the hey ho?--we are talking about the down trodden, the left behind, the unlucky, the expolitedd, the less fortunate, the shunned, the fucked with, the unseen, the ones who didnt get the lucky breaks and there are freaking loads and loads and loads of them. Take down the fence we are connected. If someone is starving anywhere we are connected to it whether we admit it or not.




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