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RE: Opinions on release - 4/24/2010 4:42:07 PM   
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have been together for 7 months


I can't help but wonder - have you ever met? This relationship, from what you write, consists of messaging and chat?

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RE: Opinions on release - 4/24/2010 5:25:04 PM   
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If the two of you lived in the same town 7 months would not be long enough to know very much about each other. A 7 month old long distance realtionship only qualifies the two of you to barely recognize each others voices. The two of you have no real responsibilities to deal with together such as bills, hanging pictures, where to live, family, what to cook or where to go out on Saturday night and you've already had incidents you discribe as such, "There have been a few tough times/disagreements and most over misunderstandings due to long distance." Please understand I am not being hateful or making light of your feelings but if you are fighting now I just can't see any hope once you are together and dealing with really aggrevating life situations. But, love is precious and if the two of you have that spark I say nurture it. SincereStrict, if you desire to be this womans Dom learn to master yourself. Lashing out like you did was an aborant act for any man although I'm sure she got a few licks in during the disagreement. It takes 2 to fight. I suggest you allow her the release she asks for and then woo her back. She is first of all a woman and you have made her feel like she is a failure. Be the Master and accept your responsibility and lead the relationship. Take care of YOUR slave instead of your self focused and petty frustrations. Most of all remember she is a woman and should be cherished and loved. I hope the two of you have many happy years together.

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RE: Opinions on release - 4/24/2010 5:34:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SincereStrict

Long story short....

My slave and I have been together for 7 months and admittedly in love for 4. We have made plans for her to move to Me and have had a great relationship. There have been a few tough times/disagreements and most over misunderstandings due to long distance.

The other day, we both were having a bad day and out chat got a bit out of hand due to frustrations on both parts. I said a few things referring to her not being a slave. The chat ended abruptly and later I got a message asking for release.

After more discussion, she is convinced she is not good enough for Me. I explained that words were exchanged over frustration and that she has been everything I have ever wanted and needed. She has given up alot for Me and have talked about sooo much for our future.


My question is....should I grant her release? She has been crying every since just thinking of it and I do not want release. I want to learn from this and grow but she is being diligent about thinking she isn't good for Me.

Any replies would be appreciated




I'd say she was feeling that she rad more into your comments and extrapolated that she wasn't good enough, which probably isn't the case. By the sound of it, it's a case of her reacting without fully hearing what you said and in what context and maybe be a good time to sit with her and clarify what appears to be a gross misunderstanding. If you truly feel she is the one for you then let her know and help her understand that what you said wasn't what she believes you meant.


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RE: Opinions on release - 4/24/2010 8:33:41 PM   
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Shame on you.  You, as a Master should be mature enough to not lose control and verbally bash your slave during an argument.  To her, being a good slave to you is her whole world and you just had to, in a moment of anger, destroy it for her.  Are you more interested in being right or being happy?  You screwed it up for yourself.  It's you who aren't good enough for her.  Grant her release.

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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 8:10:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: subsfaith
After 7 months in an LDR she is not enslaved, therefore her asking for release is a way of getting your attention.
This. Although I don't put the melodramatic spin on it that the other responders have. If she has asked for release but doesn't actually want release and you know that, then you should act on what you believe to be true. Were this Carol, I'd be having a long talk with her and finding out what is actually wrong and what she actually wants. Then we'd be working to make that happen... together.

Stealing a chapter from Merc's book and pointing out the obvious, if neither you nor she actually want to end this, then a decision to release her seems... well... foolish.

Insofar as the other posters going on about your temper... shit happens in the real world. It isn't so much a problem that something went wrong. What matters is how you two, as a couple get over it.

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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 8:34:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: leadership527

Insofar as the other posters going on about your temper... shit happens in the real world. It isn't so much a problem that something went wrong. What matters is how you two, as a couple get over it.


I agree with this, except that it has not sounded as though the OP has put on his big boy pants and just flat out said, "You know, I said some things that I did not really mean out of frustration."  Instead he has been concentrating on his waffling about whether or not to release her. 

They need to get the communication / miscommunication cleared up.  They both need to learn to say the things that they really mean. 

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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 8:44:11 AM   
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Thanks....looks like we have worked things out..had a long talk last night...

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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 8:53:41 AM   
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I never liked slave jodie.

however, I am glad you came out here to try and show how much you care. If this doesn't work out as planned have you considered skywriting?

Zipping along in your little cessna....writing out in a lovely white cursive trail of smoke, "slavejodie you are not released!"

No matter what you cannot release her. You are much older and your libido is going to shit anyways, so wait the bitch out. Without her release it would be impossible for her to take on another master. She will be forced to return to you.

slavejodie will return!!! Then you will live in bliss for the rest of your life!

I am so happy for the both of you.

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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 8:57:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SincereStrict

Thanks....looks like we have worked things out..had a long talk last night...



Glad that cunt came to her senses....I think she realized that we were in it for the long haul.

No sub we desire is going to be released on our watch!!!! Fuck no!

Glad I could be of some service.

If slave jodie steps out of line again, cm me.

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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 8:58:08 AM   
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i hope the fact that she Insisted on continuing to "push Your buttons", even when she knew You were hard at work and reassuring her it would be done after that week, is something that is on the top of your list of things to work on for her.

Good Luck!

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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 8:59:25 AM   
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It does not seem masterly to ask a group of internet strangers if you should release your slave.  I feel badly for her if you can't make that sort of decision without turning to a committee.

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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 9:24:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

It does not seem masterly to ask a group of internet strangers if you should release your slave.  I feel badly for her if you can't make that sort of decision without turning to a committee.



I vote we fuck katy!

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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 9:59:47 AM   
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As long as you don't have to ask a bunch of strangers 'bout it!  

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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 10:37:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KatyLied
I feel badly for her if you can't make that sort of decision without turning to a committee.


Decision by committee is a bad idea when you know everyone on the committee. The idea of being released is just plain silly...if i'm not happy - i'm leaving.

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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 10:44:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Focus50

I'm finding it difficult to imagine a BIGGER screw up than accusing *your* girl of not being a slave.... That sort of comment cuts deep and any dumb vanilla over 40 orta know that.


It sounds as though you've worked things out, but i REALLY want to draw attention to this very astute point that Focus made here - i can't think of anything worse than being told i'm "not a slave" or "unsubmissive" - you've essentially killed her inner self when you make these sorts of comments.  And yes, the first thing i would think of is exactly what she has done - that i would feel not "good enough" and that i am unable to please you and i should find someone else to try and start over with serving. 

From now on she will always be afraid in the back of her mind that you might say this again - so she will be struggling.  It's like the story about the broken mirror - you can glue it back together, but you will always see the crack.

i will advise you to remember that for quite some time and work hard on building her up, not tearing her down.  A slave needs her Owner's pride in her, and to know that he is pleased and happy with her service - and any "constructive criticism" is handled directly and unemotionally and as simply as possible, discussing the issue, not her identity.  And i can't think of anything that makes my heart go pitter pat more than the words "I'm pleased with you" - you might consider using them often.

i would say in the future if she's acting all emotional and crazy that you curtail the conversation - no more discussion - and if you're physically together you put her somewhere (i like the cage) to simmer down.  Escalating things will never go anywhere positive.  And of course, the Masters on here all have excellent advice, and i thank them for it as well.

Good luck to you.

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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 10:45:55 AM   
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LDRs are difficult at best. And preparing to move is bound to cause the jitters.

I don't know how far apart you folks are, but next time this happens do try to get together for the weekend. It's a lot easier to clear things up in person.


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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 10:49:35 AM   
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julie this is probably one of the best posts I've ever seen - kudos! I know that every slave who reads this will applaud as I did!

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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 11:06:45 AM   
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Aw thank you. 

*hugs zeph*

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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 11:22:37 AM   
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Sorry but if your telling her in a fit of anger she isn't a slave damaged her that much she comes slinking back asking for release because ohh gee i am not good enough -- then it sounds like neither of you really get the slave and holding someone in slavery concept.

Sure some Men who are Master's do at times lose control and verbally lamblast their slave, just as some slaves lose control and verbally lamblast their Masters. However, she will respect you more even if you don't agree or accept HER handling of your words to her if -- if you feel you handled the situation wrong for you both, then tell her that. Let her know you recognized your own errors -- BUT DO NOT BE SPECIFIC, that really is none of her business as a slave. But if you don't condone HER handling of it then deal with THAT also. You are the authority and there comes times when you need to do some readjusting for yourself but also readjusting for her as the slave.

What i say is if your saying she isn't a slave has THAT much effect that she thinks she isn't good enough then something to me is very wrong. It means YOU as her Mster haven't given her other things but words to recognize she is a slave to you, things she can reach back to and recognize your words simply for what they are a fit of frustration at HER actions in a situation. Its not WORDS that should make her a slave or not a slave but YOUR actions in mastering her and yeah while in a fit of anger you say whatever it really shouldn't dismiss or disregard all that SHOULD have made her a slave to you -- i.e., your mastery over her as well as your hold on her. Mastery has a powerful hold and it isn't because you worded her into being mastered. You have a hold on her and if she doesn't recognize that just because you said something in the fit of anger -- you really do have a lot of work to do in my opinion. Believe me, most women who are held as slaves through the mastery of a Man, they know before he speaks the words that he has let her go because his mastery no longer holds her.

There is no inner concept that words stated in frustration and anger should be capable of killing in a woman what your mastery has created and your determination for her that she is your slave. I know many people think that words hurt -- sure yeah they do, but we are talking about MASTERY here -- mastery which has a far stronger hold than any words you can utter.

To me, she is attempting to manipulate you and she wants to PUNISH you for daring to say that to her. Now, it depends on what you allow -- you will either 1) allow her to utilize manipulation to put YOU in your place, 2) allow her to create a whole in your relationship because poor little dear got hurt feelins -- i hate to tell you both this but you will at times HAVE hurt feelinsg in ANY relationship because relationships no matter what kind they are aren't linear, 3) you will maintain your hold on her, recognize your own errors if you feel there were in handling the situation and continue forward in your relationship IF that's what you want, or 4) you will decide its not worth the effort and release her and give her what she SAYS she wants.

In the slaves i have known over the years including my own experience lol there are MANY times when a slave no longer wishes to be a slave, sometimes its cause of hurt feelings, sometimes its because they want their way and ain't getting it, sometimes it because they are tired, sometimes they just don't know it seems like the easiest solution.

As someone else stated, if you have to ask someone else whether you should keep her or let her go, then personally, i don't think you should be her Master at this time because hell, you don't even know your own mind, how can you know what is best for you both?

7 months is not a lot of time, and its going to be worse when you guys finally live together. I do think she is attempting to manipulate you and punish you for your words to her. Your decision now is to figure out how you will handle the same concept when it happens in the future becuse if she is doing it now -- she will try it again when she feels you must be punished or made to "see."

Many don't agree with me and think slaves should be coddled and not be expected to sometimes get real and realize when something IS said in frustration or anger and she also has to be willing to recognize HER part in the disrutption and she in my opinion will need to learn that attempting to manipulate you or use a guilt trip on you to gain her way either by making you doubt yourself and what you should do etc is not beneficial to the relationshiop but more so she will need to learn whether or not YOU will allow her to do it. Believe me, you need to make that decision NOW because it won't be pretty if you lead her to believe a few tears and the ohhh i am not a good slave for you and you sa sa said i wasssn't a slave will have you doubtng yourself and the relationship because the foundation of most of these relationships is you the Master having a FIRM grasp of what you want and being able to maintain it even when the slave tries to self-destruct it in attempt to gain control.


just be prepared -- on day you may say to her damn you are not a slave and she responds with a "well DUHH" or "smirks well that isn't what you said yesterday" blah blah Maybe when that occurs you both will stop and look at the situation as a whole. Of course, if she is smart she will run lol cause her ass prolly won't feel so good when you get a hold of it.

You both will need to learn that sometimes emotions just escape and its not the end of the world. M/s is two human beings with reactions and emotions.

angel

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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 1:31:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: barelynangel

Sure some Men who are Master's do at times lose control and verbally lamblast their slave, angel


mmmmmm....Lamb blast.

Nothing like a lamb blast and slave brunch. Little mint and KY jelly.

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