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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 1:33:16 PM   
domiguy


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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 1:58:09 PM   
SincereStrict


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Status: offline 		Most replies here were clueless anyway. Without Me going into detail about our relationship, most were so off base. I laughed....as I did yours.

I was not going to base My decision off of what I heard here....was just curious.

We talked things out after  I had agreed to release her Monday. She cried the last three days and after a long talk last night, we are continuing.

Thanks for your input noonetheless.

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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 2:02:47 PM   
barelynangel


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Status: offline 		okay i admit i am starving, i wasn't paying attention to what i was writing and a friend of mine is making grilled lamb chops tonight - ironic. Domiguy, my fucked up spelling error is noted. Thanks

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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 2:17:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Your actions have displayed a lack of care and understanding of the effects emotional outbursts have on your woman. Your entire job is to make her feel secure. She must believe that you will not be emotional and that you will be her "rock." When you think it's okay to vent to her you have lost your focus and your ability to maintain her security. Recognize the lesson and be the master. Your venting is for your friends or those that DO NOT depend on you.

ADDED:

Also, she sounds like she may have self-esteem issues. She has to fix that.... you can't. This very common problem is nearly impossible to overcome without some sort of therapy and never can be provided by a man.

Should you release her? She needs to make that choice. Your opinion doesn't matter much now. In her mind you are either supposed to rescue her or FIX her (YOU CAN'T) or you are just another asshole in a long line of assholes before you.


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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 2:55:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SincereStrict

Most replies here were clueless anyway. Without Me going into detail about our relationship, most were so off base. I laughed....as I did yours.

I was not going to base My decision off of what I heard here....was just curious.

We talked things out after  I had agreed to release her Monday. She cried the last three days and after a long talk last night, we are continuing.

Thanks for your input noonetheless.


Certainly, and the next time you want to ask a bunch of strangers a question just so you can not take any notice of what they say, feel free to use us again.


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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 2:58:01 PM   
Apocalypso


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ORIGINAL: SincereStrict
She cried the last three days

Yeah. That's possibly something you should consider before behaving like a dick again. The fact you hurt someone who cares about you so badly really isn't something to be pleased about.

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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 3:00:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

quote:

ORIGINAL: SincereStrict

Most replies here were clueless anyway. Without Me going into detail about our relationship, most were so off base. I laughed....as I did yours.

I was not going to base My decision off of what I heard here....was just curious.

We talked things out after  I had agreed to release her Monday. She cried the last three days and after a long talk last night, we are continuing.

Thanks for your input noonetheless.


Certainly, and the next time you want to ask a bunch of strangers a question just so you can not take any notice of what they say, feel free to use us again.



Good thing some of us get off on being used!

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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 3:01:47 PM   
barelynangel


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Yeah. That's possibly something you should consider before behaving like a dick again. The fact you hurt someone who cares about you so badly really isn't something to be pleased about.


Or maybe next time she shouldn't ask for something she doesn't really want because when you do this -- sometimes you actually GET what you don't want and then have regrets when someone calls your bluff.

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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 3:04:58 PM   
Toppingfrmbottom


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Status: offline 		In my opinion, and mine only, it doesn't mean someone's lost their focus if they vent to their sub, or their partner.  I'd be one cold hard bitch if I never wanted to be there for Daddy when he needs to vent, or show his emotions and I certainly never expect him not to be emotional. I would be very sad indeed if he didn't believe it was ok to show me his emotions or not be able to be my rock 100 percent of the time.  Now, there is a difference between just blasting me unfairly with emotions, IE yelling at me cause I stepped on a land mind after a hard day I didn't know was there, or other such negative and potentially abusive things and emotions in general.  Daddy has cried in front of me before, and he has broken down under the stress, and I still don't feel any less secure with him, or like he's my rock, simply cause I've had the opportunity to hold him up and or put him back together now and then.

I feel your advise  to always be stalwart and non emotional around your partner, does a disservice to those who have emotions and show them, even to their partner.
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ORIGINAL: DomDolf

Your actions have displayed a lack of care and understanding of the effects emotional outbursts have on your woman. Your entire job is to make her feel secure. She must believe that you will not be emotional and that you will be her "rock." When you think it's okay to vent to her you have lost your focus and your ability to maintain her security. Recognize the lesson and be the master. Your venting is for your friends or those that DO NOT depend on you.




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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 3:05:27 PM   
AquaticSub


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ORIGINAL: barelynangel

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Yeah. That's possibly something you should consider before behaving like a dick again. The fact you hurt someone who cares about you so badly really isn't something to be pleased about.


Or maybe next time she shouldn't ask for something she doesn't really want because when you do this -- sometimes you actually GET what you don't want and then have regrets when someone calls your bluff.


We could try not reading minds. You aren't her and you don't know why she asked for it. Just because she didn't want it doesn't mean she didn't think it was best. A person can not want to end things but still think it's the best thing to do for everyone involved.

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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 3:09:15 PM   
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criticize (someone or something) harshly : they lambasted the report as a gross distortion of the truth.


ORIGIN mid 17th cent. (in the sense [beat, thrash] ): from lam 1 + baste
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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 3:13:20 PM   
barelynangel


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Status: offline 		I am not reading minds. I am saying based upon what i have read of the OP story. I think her bluff got called and it freaked her out. But it seemed to have been reconciled with the parties. EVERYONE's opinion here is speculation, just because you don't like that i am speculating she was being manipulative and got her bluff called doesn't mean anything other than its speculation as everyone even you have done.



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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 3:14:00 PM   
DarkSteven


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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 3:18:20 PM   
AquaticSub


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Status: offline 		Actually if you'll read, you'll find that I never stated my personal opinion on why I think she did what she's done so you've made a mistatement there.

I don't know why she did what she did. I really don't think it matters in the end because she asked for release and he has to decide if he wants a woman who is saying she thinks she should leave, even if she doesn't want to.

< Message edited by AquaticSub -- 4/25/2010 3:19:28 PM >

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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 3:25:41 PM   
barelynangel


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I have had my say in what i believe based upon what i have read. You don't have to like it.

I have always felt if a slave asks to leave she better be damn sure that's what she WANTS because it could happen. IF she doesn't want to leave then she better not bluff about it.

angel

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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 3:28:55 PM   
AquaticSub


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Status: offline 		That's great. I really don't have a problem with your opinion regarding asking for release - I actually agree with it. My issue was ripping someone a new one who isn't even here to defend themselves and your mistatement regarding what I have and have not posted on this thread.

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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 3:38:50 PM   
barelynangel


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Status: offline 		laughs omg -- ripping her a new one -- yeah. Seeing i was responding to another poster and yes i was speaking about a woman and speculating as to her actions. its amazing that you would utterly believe i was ripping her a new one by saying that and i will quote

quote:

maybe next time she shouldn't ask for something she doesn't really want because when you do this -- sometimes you actually GET what you don't want and then have regrets when someone calls your bluff.



That statement is not ripping a new one its actually fact about how things work many times. People have been told many times be careful what you ask for, you just might get it.

And i did not give a misstatement about you. I simply said you have speculated. Which you actually have. See Aquaticsub, by indicating that my speculation was a concept of fact (which you did simply by your reply) and you tried to indicate my speculation was indeed fact that may be wrong -- you were in fact speculating. So sorry, i didn't give a misstatement.


But do you really want to sit here and debate about something silly. Your trying to be dramatic and saying i was ripping her a new one by my quoted statement is to me silly also. Since you probably will respond with more incredibility to me, i won't be because this is very ridiculous to me.

angel

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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 3:43:43 PM   
AquaticSub


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Status: offline 		Kindly show me where I ventured my personal speculations about why she asked for release. My posts on this thread, excluding this one have been:

quote:


Do you want a slave that doesn't want to belong to you? If yes, go ahead and refuse the release and wait for her to gather up the guts to walk without it.


quote:


This is just me and others will certainly view it differently but... if you break up/release/etc you can start over. I see withholding release as forcing someone to stay with you when they don't want to. It's not something I have respect for.

You can tell her that you only release once and you are giving her X amount of time to think about it and you need her final answer by such-and-such date, explain yourself again but it does boil down to: Do you want someone who is trying to leave you?

To be completely cynical - she might be telling you she doesn't deserve you because she doesn't want to tell you the real reason she wants release. Or maybe that is the real reason. It still boils down to are you going to try and make her stay.


quote:


Hold on... So you told her would release her Monday if she still wants it and then changed your mind?

Gee, I can't imagine why she might want to leave.


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Good thing some of us get off on being used!


And then my posts to you. I personally feel you are being overly aggressive in your condemnation and that you are ripping her a new one. You disagree. I think you are stating your opinions as though they are facts and you are trying to hide it behind "everyone does it, including you!".

The only thing I've stated that comes close to speculating on why is the statement that she might be telling him one reason when she means another. Or she might not.

Edited to add: I suppose if one missed the scarasm they might think the third comment was my personal viewpoint though it was simply commenting on the "I'm going to release you, actually no, fuck that" and his behavior.

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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 3:47:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		FR.. You have to let her go if that is what she wants. It will hurt you both because you have so many feelings involved in being in a Master/slave relationship. If you two are meant to be together she will come back to you, but you HAVE to let her go and let her work through her own emotions before she can make the decision to come back to you with a clear head and heart.

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RE: Opinions on release - 4/25/2010 3:58:59 PM   
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Certainly, and the next time you want to ask a bunch of strangers a question just so you can not take any notice of what they say, feel free to use us again.



Of course.  That's what we're here for




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