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What if the Tea Party were black - 4/24/2010 4:15:42 PM   
Elisabella


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http://ephphatha-poetry.blogspot.com/2010/04/imagine-if-tea-party-was-black-tim-wise.html

Pretty interesting.

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Let’s play a game, shall we? The name of the game is called “Imagine.” The way it’s played is simple: we’ll envision recent happenings in the news, but then change them up a bit. Instead of envisioning white people as the main actors in the scenes we’ll conjure - the ones who are driving the action - we’ll envision black folks or other people of color instead. The object of the game is to imagine the public reaction to the events or incidents, if the main actors were of color, rather than white. Whoever gains the most insight into the workings of race in America, at the end of the game, wins.

So let’s begin.

Imagine that hundreds of black protesters were to descend upon Washington DC and Northern Virginia, just a few miles from the Capitol and White House, armed with AK-47s, assorted handguns, and ammunition. And imagine that some of these protesters —the black protesters — spoke of the need for political revolution, and possibly even armed conflict in the event that laws they didn’t like were enforced by the government? Would these protester — these black protesters with guns — be seen as brave defenders of the Second Amendment, or would they be viewed by most whites as a danger to the republic? What if they were Arab-Americans? Because, after all, that’s what happened recently when white gun enthusiasts descended upon the nation’s capital, arms in hand, and verbally announced their readiness to make war on the country’s political leaders if the need arose.

Imagine that white members of Congress, while walking to work, were surrounded by thousands of angry black people, one of whom proceeded to spit on one of those congressmen for not voting the way the black demonstrators desired. Would the protesters be seen as merely patriotic Americans voicing their opinions, or as an angry, potentially violent, and even insurrectionary mob? After all, this is what white Tea Party protesters did recently in Washington.

Imagine that a rap artist were to say, in reference to a white president: “He’s a piece of shit and I told him to suck on my machine gun.” Because that’s what rocker Ted Nugent said recently about President Obama.

Imagine that a prominent mainstream black political commentator had long employed an overt bigot as Executive Director of his organization, and that this bigot regularly participated in black separatist conferences, and once assaulted a white person while calling them by a racial slur. When that prominent black commentator and his sister — who also works for the organization — defended the bigot as a good guy who was misunderstood and “going through a tough time in his life” would anyone accept their excuse-making? Would that commentator still have a place on a mainstream network? Because that’s what happened in the real world, when Pat Buchanan employed as Executive Director of his group, America’s Cause, a blatant racist who did all these things, or at least their white equivalents: attending white separatist conferences and attacking a black woman while calling her the n-word.

Imagine that a black radio host were to suggest that the only way to get promoted in the administration of a white president is by “hating black people,” or that a prominent white person had only endorsed a white presidential candidate as an act of racial bonding, or blamed a white president for a fight on a school bus in which a black kid was jumped by two white kids, or said that he wouldn’t want to kill all conservatives, but rather, would like to leave just enough—“living fossils” as he called them—“so we will never forget what these people stood for.” After all, these are things that Rush Limbaugh has said, about Barack Obama’s administration, Colin Powell’s endorsement of Barack Obama, a fight on a school bus in Belleville, Illinois in which two black kids beat up a white kid, and about liberals, generally.

Imagine that a black pastor, formerly a member of the U.S. military, were to declare, as part of his opposition to a white president’s policies, that he was ready to “suit up, get my gun, go to Washington, and do what they trained me to do.” This is, after all, what Pastor Stan Craig said recently at a Tea Party rally in Greenville, South Carolina.

Imagine a black radio talk show host gleefully predicting a revolution by people of color if the government continues to be dominated by the rich white men who have been “destroying” the country, or if said radio personality were to call Christians or Jews non-humans, or say that when it came to conservatives, the best solution would be to “hang ‘em high.” And what would happen to any congressional representative who praised that commentator for “speaking common sense” and likened his hate talk to “American values?” After all, those are among the things said by radio host and best-selling author Michael Savage, predicting white revolution in the face of multiculturalism, or said by Savage about Muslims and liberals, respectively. And it was Congressman Culbertson, from Texas, who praised Savage in that way, despite his hateful rhetoric.

Imagine a black political commentator suggesting that the only thing the guy who flew his plane into the Austin, Texas IRS building did wrong was not blowing up Fox News instead. This is, after all, what Anne Coulter said about Tim McVeigh, when she noted that his only mistake was not blowing up the New York Times.

Imagine that a popular black liberal website posted comments about the daughter of a white president, calling her “typical redneck trash,” or a “whore” whose mother entertains her by “making monkey sounds.” After all that’s comparable to what conservatives posted about Malia Obama on freerepublic.com last year, when they referred to her as “ghetto trash.”

Imagine that black protesters at a large political rally were walking around with signs calling for the lynching of their congressional enemies. Because that’s what white conservatives did last year, in reference to Democratic party leaders in Congress.

In other words, imagine that even one-third of the anger and vitriol currently being hurled at President Obama, by folks who are almost exclusively white, were being aimed, instead, at a white president, by people of color. How many whites viewing the anger, the hatred, the contempt for that white president would then wax eloquent about free speech, and the glories of democracy? And how many would be calling for further crackdowns on thuggish behavior, and investigations into the radical agendas of those same people of color?

To ask any of these questions is to answer them. Protest is only seen as fundamentally American when those who have long had the luxury of seeing themselves as prototypically American engage in it. When the dangerous and dark “other” does so, however, it isn’t viewed as normal or natural, let alone patriotic. Which is why Rush Limbaugh could say, this past week, that the Tea Parties are the first time since the Civil War that ordinary, common Americans stood up for their rights: a statement that erases the normalcy and “American-ness” of blacks in the civil rights struggle, not to mention women in the fight for suffrage and equality, working people in the fight for better working conditions, and LGBT folks as they struggle to be treated as full and equal human beings.

And this, my friends, is what white privilege is all about. The ability to threaten others, to engage in violent and incendiary rhetoric without consequence, to be viewed as patriotic and normal no matter what you do, and never to be feared and despised as people of color would be, if they tried to get away with half the shit we do, on a daily basis.

Game Over.

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RE: What if the Tea Party were black - 4/24/2010 4:38:48 PM   
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If they believed in the same things I believe in (low taxes, right to carry, and laissez-faire), I'd be joining them.

But let's keep playing. What if they were a bunch of circus clowns crammed into tiny Volkswagens carrying seltzer bottles next to their firearms?

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RE: What if the Tea Party were black - 4/24/2010 4:44:19 PM   
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What if DC were overrun by angry mimes? The silence would be unbearable.

In truth, if I and many of my "priviledged" white friends tried the things you mention, we would be shot or in jail. I would be called a skinhead and most of my friends would be considered criminals due to their looks. "White priviledge" does not extend even to all whites.

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RE: What if the Tea Party were black - 4/24/2010 4:58:23 PM   
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Tea Party is a populist movement. The people involved have different views. One can pick up a racist, a gun enthusiast, an ignorant bastard, or perhaps an anarchist  and use it as anti-propaganda tool. I can understand US democrats confusion with a group that does not believe into Reid-Pelosi-Obama great leadership but the chosen strategy is wrong.
Populist movements arise always when country is in trouble. In pre-collapse communist  Eastern Europe they were all over the place starting with Polish Lech Walesa Solidarity movement. These movements are very hard to crack by the ruling elite as, in general, they are non-violent and they operate within the law. The attempts to attach racist or militant label to Tea Party are very much understandable and logical. However, the general tactic is wrong. The GOP works much better strategy towards Tea Party by trying to attach itself to it. At the end when the economic crisis will deepen (that is inevitable) populist ideas (people who are expressing the ideas)  will win elections. This is why the Democrats have taken a loosing position.

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RE: What if the Tea Party were black - 4/24/2010 6:24:05 PM   
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I missed the part of ending the fed.

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RE: What if the Tea Party were black - 4/24/2010 6:26:07 PM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypJeql_G7p8&playnext_from=TL&videos=DiDXlpxWbho&feature=sub

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RE: What if the Tea Party were black - 4/24/2010 7:02:22 PM   
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Like the Black Panthers, maybe?

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RE: What if the Tea Party were black - 4/24/2010 7:11:47 PM   
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That was excellent. This is my favorite part:  “Which is why Rush Limbaugh could say, this past week, that the Tea Parties are the first time since the Civil War that ordinary, common Americans stood up for their rights: a statement that erases the normalcy and “American-ness” of blacks in the civil rights struggle, not to mention women in the fight for suffrage and equality, working people in the fight for better working conditions, and LGBT folks as they struggle to be treated as full and equal human beings.”
Unfortunately some white people will never understand and they will find this irritating and disagree.

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RE: What if the Tea Party were black - 4/24/2010 7:46:39 PM   
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Silly Brain. They just find you annoying and so they disagree. Just kidding. I do actually have to agree with the piece that you quoted.

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RE: What if the Tea Party were black - 4/24/2010 8:05:43 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Like the Black Panthers, maybe?


That's what I was thinking.

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RE: What if the Tea Party were black - 4/24/2010 8:15:01 PM   
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Angela Davis was a complete bitch when I met her.

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RE: What if the Tea Party were black - 4/25/2010 2:24:04 AM   
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A hell of a proposition Elisabella...and since Rich and Tim bot h popped up with the Black Panthers I would say your mental exercise hit it's mark...the image of the Panthers,at least to most white Americans is one of angry black militants....while a great majority of the black community might be more likely to describe them as proud young black men who had a legitimate gripe.
Curious indeed.

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RE: What if the Tea Party were black - 4/25/2010 3:56:33 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Like the Black Panthers, maybe?



Dick what is it about the Black Panthers that you don't like?

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RE: What if the Tea Party were black - 4/25/2010 4:00:13 AM   
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Angela Davis was a complete bitch when I met her.



Why do you say that Dick?
Does it really piss you off that much that the cops were unsuccessful in framing her?
Is she a bith because she stood up for her rights as an American?
Or...
Is she a bitch because you do not agree with her?
Of course we all believe you have sat and chatted with the "bitch" because she was so well known for her sit downs with rednecks and bigots

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RE: What if the Tea Party were black - 4/25/2010 6:43:39 AM   
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No, Tom, I call her a bitch because she once spent the night on my parent's couch, and woke up and started snarling at me for watching my Saturday morning cartoons. Considering that I was using my little earplug and there wasn't any sound to bother her, my attitude was "what a bitch."

Rather the same attitude you have re-inforced once again, when I open up one of your contributions in these forums,

"Rednecks and bigots..." Go fuck yourself Thompson.

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RE: What if the Tea Party were black - 4/25/2010 7:11:04 AM   
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imagine a frog had wings, it would not hit its ass on the ground every time it jumped.....

imho, things like this, imagining something in order to find a way to make it racist, feed the fires of racism.  we do not need to imagine shit that aint happening, we need to deal with things that are reality.

i am amazed someone spent the time to write all this garbage, just to try to stir the pot.

imagine i could actually type, i wouldnt have to edit...ugh

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RE: What if the Tea Party were black - 4/25/2010 7:25:24 AM   
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quote:

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A hell of a proposition Elisabella...and since Rich and Tim bot h popped up with the Black Panthers I would say your mental exercise hit it's mark...the image of the Panthers,at least to most white Americans is one of angry black militants....while a great majority of the black community might be more likely to describe them as proud young black men who had a legitimate gripe.
Curious indeed.


The "mental exercise" was more an exercise in race-baiting than anything else, Mike. For instance, the little bit about congressmen being spit on and called racist names is the current "big lie." It never happened, it has become well established that it never happened, yet the lie gets repeated over and over and over again, and used as "evidence" to support further lies.

I was having a bit of fun with the concept when I mentioned the Panthers, but from an ideological standpoint, it holds no water.

From the 10 Points of the Black Panther Party:

We believe that the federal government is responsible and obligated to give every person employment or a guaranteed income.

We believe that if the landlords will not give decent housing to our Black and oppressed communities, then housing and the land should be made into cooperatives so that the people in our communities, with government aid, can build and make decent housing for the people.

5.WE WANT DECENT EDUCATION FOR OUR PEOPLE THAT EXPOSES THE TRUE NATURE OF THIS DECADENT AMERICAN SOCIETY.

We believe that the government must provide, free of charge, for the people, health facilities

We believe that the racist and fascist government of the United States uses its domestic enforcement agencies to carry out its program






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RE: What if the Tea Party were black - 4/25/2010 9:28:12 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Like the Black Panthers, maybe?


Well, exactly. When a bunch of black guys get out guns and talked about armed revolution against the US government to address their grievances, they were considered by most people to be dangerous radicals. But when a bunch of conservative white guys do the same, they get an entirely different sort of reception.

Why don't we talk about the Tea Partiers the same way we talk about the Black Panthers? Because of race and class.

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RE: What if the Tea Party were black - 4/25/2010 9:33:29 AM   
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RE: What if the Tea Party were black - 4/25/2010 9:37:52 AM   
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You just beat me to it!

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