UniqueRaven
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Joined: 9/30/2009 From: Austin, TX Status: offline
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ORIGINAL: UniqueRaven There are subs though that do - and struggle when he doesn't see and praise her for "everything they do for him." Typically that's why i stay away from the "observe and serve" sorts of advice - i see much better (and often more fun for him) results for him to be engaged with telling his s-type his desires vs. her just doing it. My two cents. I don't think these two things are mutually exclusive UR. PEOPLE... all people... need to feel appreciated. The direct command/obey loop makes the appreciation thing much simpler and easier and so, exactly as you said, works out well. But when there is sufficient appreciation happening in both directions already, then the "observe and serve" type things -- even if they go unnoticed -- are quietly fulfilling. Nor is this a gender linked thing or an attribute of doms or subs. It's a people thing and I get pretty cranky if Carol becomes consistently fails to notice the things that I've been accomplishing in my eagle-eye view of our relationship. For us at least, that lack of notice/appreciation happens as a result of two people operating at vastly different levels of detail and it takes constant attention to overcome. btw, you can call me raven if you like - easier to type. There are many things that are relationship specific - which is what really most of the discussions on the boards eventually break down to. There's a reason that people are compatible with each other, as they have complimentary needs - and not all people are the same. i'm big on clarity. Huge, even. i think hidden expecations of each other are one of the things that ultimately break down relationships. So i'm thinking about this a lot lately, it has been in a few of my posts - and a potential Owner i'm speaking with has a lot of very good information for me as well that i'm also thinking about. Yes, people are people, and that's what makes each relationship unique. i personally think that if there is something he wants of me, or needs, or something i need from him, it's much easier to just say so vs. expecting someone to "just do it." Sooner of later that leads to misunderstandings. It sounds to me based upon your saying "For us at least, that lack of notice/appreciation happens as a result of two people operating at vastly different levels of detail and it takes constant attention to overcome" that the two of you recognize this in your relationship, communicate about it, and take an active role in addressing the need. This is way different from just holding expectations without communication, which is where i see the breakdown occuring in other relationships. Just thinking about this with no agenda. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
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"My life has no purpose, no direction, no aim, no meaning, and yet I'm happy. I can't figure it out. What am I doing right?" ~Snoopy (Charles Schultz) My blog is at http://takinghishand.wordpress.com
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