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RE: Canadians Live Longer In Better Health Than Americans - 5/2/2010 10:00:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

The American way, the American Empire is dying, perhaps breaking up from within especially with all this talk of constitutions, tea parties and such, something sure ain't right, but perhaps America has been so concerned about world domination, it has forgotten about the people that are America, surely the health of a nation is so important to provide a healthy country but it seems that has been neglected.

Not the entire nation--just the neo-conservative portion (which is, yes, very vocal).

And yes, the American Empire (that most Americans would deny exists) is dying. Americans don't take action as a rule until neck deep in a crisis. Long term planing just doesn't seem to make sense for some reason, and we will pay for it. We already are.

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RE: Canadians Live Longer In Better Health Than Americans - 5/2/2010 10:02:15 AM   
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No offense, but Toronto is the only Big City in Canada. As well, having the powers of observation I have seen a few Big Cities and felt they weren't as safe or clean as Toronto. Not a Scientific study to be sure and without the "backup" that a critical thinker needs but I don't think I am far afield from the truth.


Montreal is a metropolitan area. That is a fact. 2006

Toronto Population (2006)
- City 2,503,281 (1st)
- Density 3,972/km2 (10,287.4/sq mi)
- Urban 4,753,120 (1st)
- Metro 5,113,149 (1st)

Montreal Population (2006)
- City 1,620,693 (2nd)
- Density 4,439/km2 (11,496/sq mi)
- Urban 3,316,615 (2nd)
- Metro 3,635,571 (2nd)

Toronto proper is not even twice the population of Montreal. Neither is Toronto Urban nor Toronto Metro. Montreal density is actually higher.

Montreal is widely recognized as a large metropolitan city. Your unfounded opinion does not make it untrue.

You aren't offending me with your post, but you are however really reducing your credibility level.

- LA


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RE: Canadians Live Longer In Better Health Than Americans - 5/2/2010 4:51:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

No offense, but Toronto is the only Big City in Canada. As well, having the powers of observation I have seen a few Big Cities and felt they weren't as safe or clean as Toronto. Not a Scientific study to be sure and without the "backup" that a critical thinker needs but I don't think I am far afield from the truth.


Montreal is a metropolitan area. That is a fact. 2006

Toronto Population (2006)
- City 2,503,281 (1st)
- Density 3,972/km2 (10,287.4/sq mi)
- Urban 4,753,120 (1st)
- Metro 5,113,149 (1st)

Montreal Population (2006)
- City 1,620,693 (2nd)
- Density 4,439/km2 (11,496/sq mi)
- Urban 3,316,615 (2nd)
- Metro 3,635,571 (2nd)

Toronto proper is not even twice the population of Montreal. Neither is Toronto Urban nor Toronto Metro. Montreal density is actually higher.

Montreal is widely recognized as a large metropolitan city. Your unfounded opinion does not make it untrue.

You aren't offending me with your post, but you are however really reducing your credibility level.

- LA



Would be interested in where you got your statistics. Stats Can? What was considered Metro Mtl and Metro Toronto. Sometthing in those numbers don't seem right. But, you can be a Big City if you want to be. Doesn't change my original premise that Toronto is cleaner and safer.


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RE: Canadians Live Longer In Better Health Than Americans - 5/2/2010 6:06:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

No offense, but Toronto is the only Big City in Canada. As well, having the powers of observation I have seen a few Big Cities and felt they weren't as safe or clean as Toronto. Not a Scientific study to be sure and without the "backup" that a critical thinker needs but I don't think I am far afield from the truth.


Montreal is a metropolitan area. That is a fact. 2006

Toronto Population (2006)
- City 2,503,281 (1st)
- Density 3,972/km2 (10,287.4/sq mi)
- Urban 4,753,120 (1st)
- Metro 5,113,149 (1st)

Montreal Population (2006)
- City 1,620,693 (2nd)
- Density 4,439/km2 (11,496/sq mi)
- Urban 3,316,615 (2nd)
- Metro 3,635,571 (2nd)

Toronto proper is not even twice the population of Montreal. Neither is Toronto Urban nor Toronto Metro. Montreal density is actually higher.

Montreal is widely recognized as a large metropolitan city. Your unfounded opinion does not make it untrue.

You aren't offending me with your post, but you are however really reducing your credibility level.

- LA


Would be interested in where you got your statistics. Stats Can? What was considered Metro Mtl and Metro Toronto. Sometthing in those numbers don't seem right. But, you can be a Big City if you want to be. Doesn't change my original premise that Toronto is cleaner and safer.




I found the statistics on Wikipedia but before posting them, I verified the sources on Statistics Canada's 2006 survey. Here they are.

City of Montreal Population:
http://www12.statcan.ca/english/census06/data/popdwell/Table.cfm?T=305&SR=2826&S=0&O=A&RPP=25&PR=24&CMA=0

Montreal population density:
http://www12.statcan.ca/english/census06/data/popdwell/Table.cfm?T=302&SR=1&S=3&O=D&RPP=25&PR=24

City of Toronto Population:
http://www12.statcan.ca/english/census06/data/popdwell/Table.cfm?T=305&SR=3026&S=0&O=A&RPP=25&PR=35&CMA=0

Toronto population density:
http://www12.statcan.ca/english/census06/data/popdwell/Table.cfm?T=702&PR=35&S=0&O=A&RPP=25

Urban areas (UAs)
http://www12.statcan.ca/english/census06/data/popdwell/Table.cfm?T=801&PR=0&SR=1&S=3&O=D

Census metropolitan areas (CMAs) and census agglomerations (CAs)
http://www12.statcan.ca/english/census06/data/popdwell/Table.cfm?T=201&S=3&O=D&RPP=150

- LA

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RE: Canadians Live Longer In Better Health Than Americans - 5/2/2010 6:08:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		As far as what forms a metropolitan area - http://www12.statcan.ca/census-recensement/2006/ref/dict/geo009-eng.cfm

Census metropolitan area (CMA)
and census agglomeration (CA)

Modified on December 11, 2007
Part A - Plain language definition:

Area consisting of one or more neighbouring municipalities situated around a major urban core. A census metropolitan area must have a total population of at least 100,000 of which 50,000 or more live in the urban core. A census agglomeration must have an urban core population of at least 10,000.

Part B - Detailed definition:

A census metropolitan area (CMA) or a census agglomeration (CA) is formed by one or more adjacent municipalities centred on a large urban area (known as the urban core). A CMA must have a total population of at least 100,000 of which 50,000 or more must live in the urban core. A CA must have an urban core population of at least 10,000. To be included in the CMA or CA, other adjacent municipalities must have a high degree of integration with the central urban area, as measured by commuting flows derived from census place of work data.

If the population of the urban core of a CA declines below 10,000, the CA is retired. However, once an area becomes a CMA, it is retained as a CMA even if its total population declines below 100,000 or the population of its urban core falls below 50,000. The urban areas in the CMA or CA that are not contiguous to the urban core are called the urban fringe. Rural areas in the CMA or CA are called the rural fringe.

When a CA has an urban core of at least 50,000, it is subdivided into census tracts. Census tracts are maintained for the CA even if the population of the urban core subsequently falls below 50,000. All CMAs are subdivided into census tracts.


- LA

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