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Musicmystery -> Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 9:13:01 AM)

Hey guys,

We see a regular thread genre in various forums along the lines of "I messed up and my Master told me to come here and post."

I doubt it--more likely the attention getting made up variety of thread. But seriously? Are there any of you who would "punish" a slave this way? And if so, why? Why?

Me? I don't have time to micromanage. Show a girl, yes. Explain, yes. Redirect, yes. But if it's a matter of punishing outright deliberate unacceptable behavior, whip the bitch and move on.







DesFIP -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 9:17:52 AM)

I presume it's because she finds public confession to be embarrassing. Or if he's a forum reader then he may be hoping for sadism by committee if she gets a good raking over. If she dislikes it, then it's punishment. No?




myotherself -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 9:21:52 AM)

or maybe he's a bit lazy and can't be arsed to punish her personally.





GreedyTop -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 9:22:58 AM)

what da bunny said.




UniqueRaven -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 9:25:04 AM)

  1. Laziness on the part of the Master
  2. Apathy on the part of the Master
  3. Online only relationships
  4. Relationships based upon fantasy readings on the internet
  5. Humiliation by having to type out what she did (but really? whatever)


That about covers my list.  Hee hee![:D]




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 9:25:13 AM)

What da Monkey and Bunny said




Titanium0Master -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 9:27:44 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

I don't have time to micromanage.


I wholeheartdly agree with that. I have noticed that a lot of people think the Dom/Master should completely run the sub/slaves life. But if you do that, how in the hell will you have to time to run your own life?




Musicmystery -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 9:36:52 AM)

Not only that, TM, but notice that so far, except for you, it's all girls chiming in where I clearly was asking the guys.

I checked out the local BDSM group a few times and stopped going for exactly this reason--it was really run by the subs.




GreedyTop -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 9:41:51 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Hey guys,

We see a regular thread genre in various forums along the lines of "I messed up and my Master told me to come here and post."

I doubt it--more likely the attention getting made up variety of thread. But seriously? Are there any of you who would "punish" a slave this way? And if so, why? Why?

Me? I don't have time to micromanage. Show a girl, yes. Explain, yes. Redirect, yes. But if it's a matter of punishing outright deliberate unacceptable behavior, whip the bitch and move on.

quote:

Not only that, TM, but notice that so far, except for you, it's all girls chiming in where I clearly was asking the guys.

I checked out the local BDSM group a few times and stopped going for exactly this reason--it was really run by the subs.


*ahem*  Tim.. darling.. many females use the term 'guys' to include EVERYONE/

as to your OP:

I agree that it's an attention seeking thing, and most times I doubt that there is ACTUALLY a master/dom/man/real person behind the directive.  There MAY be exceptions to that, but call me cynical... lol




UniqueRaven -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 9:45:58 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Not only that, TM, but notice that so far, except for you, it's all girls chiming in where I clearly was asking the guys.

I checked out the local BDSM group a few times and stopped going for exactly this reason--it was really run by the subs.


My apologies, i read "Hey Guys" as like "Hey everyone" - sometimes people will mean words like that.  i should have known better written by you - my mistake!

i will say that this is one reason i don't join sub/slave groups in real life - they generally are a group of submissive women getting together to complain about their Masters/Doms in the underhanded guise of "getting advice" - when really they just don't like what they've been told to do and they want to be validated by their girlfriends.  Not good for a slave's headspace at all.  Also one of the reasons i don't join in the complaints on this site as well - i do my best to just be helpful.  

My role is to be responsible for my actions and to just do as i'm told, and not get ahead of myself.  [;)] 

Thank you............j




frazzle -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 9:52:44 AM)

Hello cynical [:D]




Titanium0Master -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 10:02:15 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Not only that, TM, but notice that so far, except for you, it's all girls chiming in where I clearly was asking the guys.

I checked out the local BDSM group a few times and stopped going for exactly this reason--it was really run by the subs.


I thought you were using "Guys" generically as well.

However, it is not surprising that women make up the vast majority of people on online message boards of this type. Specking generally here (and yes, there are always exceptions and this does not apply to everybody and all the other standard disclaimers etc.) women are more social than men are. They are generally better at building families and communities, so they make up a larger percentage of people on a social site like this. I am not saying that is good or bad, just that it is.

If you want a community run by guys, go to a gaming site sometime and see what a vast difference there is between a site like that and a site like this! (even excluding the sexual aspects [;)] )




Musicmystery -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 10:05:45 AM)

~FR~

No apologies needed, and no problem. Just saying.

Clearly it's in the "Ask A Master" thread, and yes, "Hey guys" is colloquial, but the content of the post, speaking of punishing and micromanaging, is obviously addressed to owners.

I just pointed this diversion out because it illustrates the larger points--not a question of mastery at all, but of a girl (allegedly) looking for attention and fantasy. It's a sub driven culture, even here.

Not a complaint--just an observation.




barelynangel -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 10:06:26 AM)

quote:

Not only that, TM, but notice that so far, except for you, it's all girls chiming in where I clearly was asking the guys. I checked out the local BDSM group a few times and stopped going for exactly this reason--it was really run by the subs.


So the fact your girl came running in to comment should allow the rest to presume she runs your relationship?

Careful when you are criticizing others Tim lol your own girl shows you have no more control than the people you are using this thread to criticize.

angel




Musicmystery -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 10:07:08 AM)

quote:

I agree that it's an attention seeking thing, and most times I doubt that there is ACTUALLY a master/dom/man/real person behind the directive.


Exactly.




DarkSteven -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 10:09:15 AM)

I wonder if it's desperation.  In the case I suspect you are citing, the sub lied to her Dom, was caught and punished... and seemed unaffected by it all, as though she was watching it on TV.  I wonder if her Master thought that a bunch of Internet strangers might make her feel some compunction, because he sure couldn't do it.




LadyPact -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 10:12:25 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Hey guys,

We see a regular thread genre in various forums along the lines of "I messed up and my Master told me to come here and post."

I doubt it--more likely the attention getting made up variety of thread. But seriously? Are there any of you who would "punish" a slave this way? And if so, why? Why?

Me? I don't have time to micromanage. Show a girl, yes. Explain, yes. Redirect, yes. But if it's a matter of punishing outright deliberate unacceptable behavior, whip the bitch and move on.





This comes from a slightly different angle than where you are probably coming from, MM.  I do, however, want to throw this out there.

As a punishment, no.  For some potential assistance in how to handle a punishment, yes.

The first time that I had to punish clip, there was a bit more to it than punish him and move on.  There were also all of the feelings and emotions that he had to process connected to the event.  We discussed this, of course, but I honestly felt that there was something that he could possibly gain by talking with other submissives who had been in his position.  How they dealt with their feelings when a situation had become enough to warrant a punishment.  I wanted him to know from better than the second hand information that I could provide (not being submissive Myself) that it wasn't unusual  that My disappointment in him really was the worst part of it all and have him hear from others that, in some cases, the actual punishment could have a cleansing effect.  I wanted him to get feedback from those who had experience in feeling exactly what he was feeling and the advice that they would share with him about the validity of the emotions he was having.  I also wanted him to know that he wasn't the only one in the world who ever felt the way that he was feeling at the moment.  Just because it was new to him, didn't mean that it was unique.  Truthfully, My best hopes were realized when people responded to his thread.  I was very pleased.

So, it wasn't laziness on My part, or a matter or attention seeking, or any of the foo-foo bullshit that I have the feeling led you to creating the original.  When I had clip do this, I sincerely felt there was something to be gained by it, which is exactly what happened.




domiguy -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 10:12:46 AM)

I am never disappointed by the stupidity that is aired out here on a regular basis....never disappointed.


I find it a rather soothing experience. Every year the Cubs take the field and every year they lose. You can set your watch to this type of shit.

I find a certain inner peace that there are doms who tell their subs to come out here and confess to their sins just as I do the return of robins in the spring.

Poor barely.




IronBear -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 10:14:42 AM)

Probably a combination of all the responses may well be closer to the more accurate answer. Sure as the Gods made slaves to be pleasing to their Masters and Mistresses there are "Dim" Doms you either just haven't got the nous or are just too damned lazy to punish unless of course said Dominant is one part of a very LDR and a public confession seems appropriate. Not just in the BDSM arena, but in many other areas, public confessions appear to be a favourite form of punishment as in punishment by public embarrassment which works jolly well when the "public" are people who the offender mixes with. Done that myself with a few lazy sods way back when I was in the Australian regular Army (pre Vietnam) and said lazy sods had to march around the parade area with a sign stating that they were lazy bludgers who let down their platoon mates. Suffice to say it worked. Like so many questions asked here, we can but speculate without knowing the folk involved, the truth of the posts and the reasons behind them be they true or no. 




UniqueRaven -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 10:16:24 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

This comes from a slightly different angle than where you are probably coming from, MM.  I do, however, want to throw this out there.

As a punishment, no.  For some potential assistance in how to handle a punishment, yes.

The first time that I had to punish clip, there was a bit more to it than punish him and move on.  There were also all of the feelings and emotions that he had to process connected to the event.  We discussed this, of course, but I honestly felt that there was something that he could possibly gain by talking with other submissives who had been in his position.  How they dealt with their feelings when a situation had become enough to warrant a punishment.  I wanted him to know from better than the second hand information that I could provide (not being submissive Myself) that it wasn't unusual  that My disappointment in him really was the worst part of it all and have him hear from others that, in some cases, the actual punishment could have a cleansing effect.  I wanted him to get feedback from those who had experience in feeling exactly what he was feeling and the advice that they would share with him about the validity of the emotions he was having.  I also wanted him to know that he wasn't the only one in the world who ever felt the way that he was feeling at the moment.  Just because it was new to him, didn't mean that it was unique.  Truthfully, My best hopes were realized when people responded to his thread.  I was very pleased.

So, it wasn't laziness on My part, or a matter or attention seeking, or any of the foo-foo bullshit that I have the feeling led you to creating the original.  When I had clip do this, I sincerely felt there was something to be gained by it, which is exactly what happened.



i do wonder, LP, reading your post here if clip's thread was more well received because most everyone on the boards knows and respects you (including me [:)]). 

A number of the threads that get started by relative (or even completely) unknown people don't get the same sorts of supportive and thoughtful advice.  Not all of them, but some.  And that goes against the purpose of the Master/Mistress involved when they're criticized by a unknown people, some well-meaning, some not as well-meaning.  So then i don't know that the exercise is particularly valuable. 




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