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Jeffff -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 10:17:55 AM)

I once had a girl who forgot to wipe her ass. Even though this was clearly my fault because I had not told her to wipe her ass, something had to be done.


I made her go to the local dog park and drag her naked ass along the grass like the bitch she was.

I did not make her post about it.



Musicmystery -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 10:19:38 AM)

See? A common sense approach.

[:D][:D][:D]



DarkSteven -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 10:19:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

I once had a girl who forgot to wipe her ass. Even though this was clearly my fault because I had not told her to wipe her ass, something had to be done.


I made her go to the local dog park and drag her naked ass along the grass like the bitch she was.

I did not make her post about it.


And yet, here YOU are, posting about it....



Jeffff -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 10:22:56 AM)

Just as an example to others.

I am a giver!



domiguy -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 10:23:57 AM)

And that bitch was katylied.



Jeffff -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 10:26:32 AM)

No amount of ass dragging could diminish that stench!


Ask Marie



dreamerdreaming -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 2:21:44 PM)

What the monkey, bunny, polar bear and raven said.


Nice rack, OP. [:D]



Focus50 -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 3:47:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Hey guys,

We see a regular thread genre in various forums along the lines of "I messed up and my Master told me to come here and post."

I doubt it--more likely the attention getting made up variety of thread. But seriously? Are there any of you who would "punish" a slave this way? And if so, why? Why?

Me? I don't have time to micromanage. Show a girl, yes. Explain, yes. Redirect, yes. But if it's a matter of punishing outright deliberate unacceptable behavior, whip the bitch and move on.

Oh come on - you've just gotta love it when an "adult" sends his misbehaving brat to a public board to inflict their personal trials and tribulations on ALL of us, no? [8|]

I mean, what else are we gonna do for a life without that opportunity to be judgemental of strangers? Ahhhh, the opera of teenage melodrama.... lol

Focus.



Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 3:52:37 PM)

Now, I'm not a slave, but one time very long time ago, a then Dom of mine dealt with my  lying and bitchy behavior by making me make a nick name something along the lines of lying bitch, I don't remember exactly the name, and he made me go into alt.com's chat rooms. I was not allowed not to go in, since I chat'ed there every day and enjoyed the chat rooms and simply not going in would be evading the punishment. I was also not allowed to not let people know who I was.

His thinking was probably that the embarrasment of it all would be an effective punishment. And would also teach me to mind my words and my manners.
quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Hey guys,

We see a regular thread genre in various forums along the lines of "I messed up and my Master told me to come here and post."

I doubt it--more likely the attention getting made up variety of thread. But seriously? Are there any of you who would "punish" a slave this way? And if so, why? Why?

Me? I don't have time to micromanage. Show a girl, yes. Explain, yes. Redirect, yes. But if it's a matter of punishing outright deliberate unacceptable behavior, whip the bitch and move on.







Icarys -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 4:03:10 PM)

I'm a private person so I wouldn't want to air out my laundry (I find it silly to do so)for all to see but hey..It's his prerogative..

We as adults don't have to oblige.



leadership527 -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 4:10:02 PM)

I don't actually punish Carol. For us, talking things out works pretty well. If I did see value in punishment, I cannot conceive of finding that particular method of punishment as having any value. Just my opinion which is what you asked... not meant to apply to the world at large.



LadyPact -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 4:16:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

~FR~

No apologies needed, and no problem. Just saying.

Clearly it's in the "Ask A Master" thread, and yes, "Hey guys" is colloquial, but the content of the post, speaking of punishing and micromanaging, is obviously addressed to owners.

I just pointed this diversion out because it illustrates the larger points--not a question of mastery at all, but of a girl (allegedly) looking for attention and fantasy. It's a sub driven culture, even here.

Not a complaint--just an observation.

MM, I honestly had no intention of intruding if you seriously only wanted opinions from male Owners in regard to this thread.  This particular comment was made as I was typing up My own.  I do have to say that I didn't see your original as something that applied only male led situations.  I did see it as something of a rant about what happens in possibly ninety percent of the threads generated on the subject, where it boils down to a person wanting to go on about what a bad, bad subbie they've been and want the world to know about the punishment that that have, or are about to receive.  I can't tell you how many times My own eyes have rolled after seeing the upteenth thread on clamoring for ideas on how to punish a submissive, even when there hasn't really been an infraction.  It just screams incompetence and ignorance and more often than not makes Me want to reply that if someone doesn't know how to handle their own submissive, then the submissive would be better off with someone who does.  I'm not always successful in refraining from adding that last part.

I did see your original as having a splash of rant to it.  One that I've had in My own head sitting on My side of the screen.  Still, it's also touching on something of substance that would make for good discussion, even if I don't particularly see it as a gender specific issue.



sunshinemiss -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 5:14:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

~FR~

No apologies needed, and no problem. Just saying.

Clearly it's in the "Ask A Master" thread, and yes, "Hey guys" is colloquial, but the content of the post, speaking of punishing and micromanaging, is obviously addressed to owners.

I just pointed this diversion out because it illustrates the larger points--not a question of mastery at all, but of a girl (allegedly) looking for attention and fantasy. It's a sub driven culture, even here.

Not a complaint--just an observation.


Hello Tim,
This is rubbish. No offense, but absolute rubbish. When you make statements *about* a group of people (like submissive women), do you really think that the women are not going to speak up? Sorry, you don't get to be bossing all the little women around over here. Nor do you get to make sweeping statements about us without some response. Not the way it works.

As to the OP:
Besides that, sometimes we have information that you are asking for. I always presume that it is the *information* that is important rather than the role. If you want only the men, you'd be asking in an email or at your poker night rather than here.

Anyway, confession is good for the soul. Sometimes it is a very powerful tool to get to the deeper truth. I agree that often they are attention seeking, but so what? Sometimes attention is a good thing. We bear witness to something that can be moving and powerful. Where else are they going to do that?

Used on an occasional basis, it can work amazingly well. That's one of the reasons why AA, religion, and psychotherapy work.

sunshine

*edited for clarity and to remove an irrelevant part



LadyPact -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 5:19:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: UniqueRaven

i do wonder, LP, reading your post here if clip's thread was more well received because most everyone on the boards knows and respects you (including me [:)]). 

A number of the threads that get started by relative (or even completely) unknown people don't get the same sorts of supportive and thoughtful advice.  Not all of them, but some.  And that goes against the purpose of the Master/Mistress involved when they're criticized by a unknown people, some well-meaning, some not as well-meaning.  So then i don't know that the exercise is particularly valuable. 

First, let Me say thank you.  I appreciate the complement. 

I'm sure that what you are saying here does have something to do with that.  Not because it's Me in particular, but because it's easily seen that it was a reality based thread.  There's no mistaking that in clip's main profile pic which appeared beside his post, there really is a Dominant woman there with him.  This eliminated the doubt that there was a Dominant involved and it wasn't fantasy bs.

The other part of this, however, does have something to do with approach.  It was easy enough to tell that his post wasn't some thinly veiled attempt to gather wank fodder or the misguided conception that punishment was about having a good time.  The punishment itself was not discussed, nor the infraction.  Only the way he felt about the situation emotionally.

I tend to think it is the combination of the two that brought a positive result.





Aynne88 -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 5:20:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: barelynangel

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Not only that, TM, but notice that so far, except for you, it's all girls chiming in where I clearly was asking the guys. I checked out the local BDSM group a few times and stopped going for exactly this reason--it was really run by the subs.


So the fact your girl came running in to comment should allow the rest to presume she runs your relationship?

Careful when you are criticizing others Tim lol your own girl shows you have no more control than the people you are using this thread to criticize.

angel



Oh *snap* [;)].



Musicmystery -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 8:05:35 PM)

quote:

MM, I honestly had no intention of intruding


No worries. I thought your post was interesting.




Musicmystery -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 8:06:49 PM)

quote:

Hello Tim,
This is rubbish. No offense, but absolute rubbish. When you make statements *about* a group of people (like submissive women), do you really think that the women are not going to speak up? Sorry, you don't get to be bossing all the little women around over here. Nor do you get to make sweeping statements about us without some response. Not the way it works.


I didn't boss anyone. I made an observation, and without rancor at that. Fuck you.



SweetDommes -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 8:26:52 PM)

On topic - I don't see the point of public 'punishments' ... even when our boy behaves in a way that I don't approve of on these boards, I keep any punishment/discussion/whatever in the house, and off the boards. Very rarely does it seem to be effective in anyway to make 'punishments' public. There are exceptions like with LP and Clip, but, again, they are incredibly rare. Personally, I'm in the "keep your dirty laundry private" crowd. No one needs to see anyone else's literal or figurative skid-marked undies.

Off topic - when you post on a public forum, even one geared towards a specific group, you are going to get responses from all types. That doesn't mean that the board is run by *insert whatever group* - it just means that people have opinions and feel the desire to share them. There are as many submissives as dominants that post on the "ask a mistress" forum, but you know, it rarely gets remarked upon. I don't know if it gets noted more here or not, because I don't typically hang out on the "ask a master" board, but honestly, it's not that big of a deal.



Musicmystery -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 8:43:30 PM)

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it's not that big of a deal.


Granted.



leadership527 -> RE: Really? Communal Confessions? (5/1/2010 8:53:59 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
I just pointed this diversion out because it illustrates the larger points--not a question of mastery at all, but of a girl (allegedly) looking for attention and fantasy. It's a sub driven culture, even here.
You know, much as I like you MM, I'm gonna have to call bullshit on this one. I might agree with your assessment of the posts. Then again, I might not. I prefer not to make guesses when I don't need to. And if I am going to make guesses, I prefer not to go down the most negative paths.

Insofar as "it being a sub driven culture", I find that statement meaningless. "Culture" is driven by people. All of us here, doms and subs alike, combine to create what culture exists here. It is not driven by any one segment. It is a collective effort and to think anything different is, in my mind, the sheerest sort of fantasy. Even within my own home with as much control as I exert over Carol, she contributes a great deal to the "culture" of our home. I could probably stop that, but then I'd also be stopping our relationship also. Then it'd just be me and a servant.

Don't get me wrong, I see lots of things here in the sub ranks I dislike a great deal. But to suggest that they drive the culture would be to abandon my own ability to influence it also... not a very dominant thing to do.



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