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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
Gee lucky your are one sharp tack!


Did you know that the judicial power of microsoft CORPORATION lies in the one bill gates.  So what?

In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in ANY Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

get it?

Tell me you get and explain what that means and how it plays out.

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US Constitution, Article Three, The Judiciary
Section 1. The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behavior, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services a Compensation which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.

Section 2. The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority; to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls; to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction; to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party; to Controversies between two or more States; between a State and Citizens of another State; between Citizens of different States; between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.

In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.

Trial of all Crimes, except in Cases of Impeachment, shall be by Jury; and such Trial shall be held in the State where the said Crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any State, the Trial shall be at such Place or Places as the Congress may by Law have directed.

Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.


SIXTH Amendment:
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district where in the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

[sm=rofl.gif] Oh, what a good laugh you give me to end the evening, you feeble, silly clown. Thank you for the giggle.

well you know the ole saying, he who laughs last eh :)

When I first produced this article by the Anti Defamation League pointing out the origins of all the befuddling bullshit you have been spouting on these Boards, you did not deny my assertion that the article contained an accurate portrayal of your precepts. Oh no! You attacked the ADL as a Communist promoting organization, returning to the tactics of the Joe MacCarthy era for your smear.

The origins are evidenced in history and case law not that you know anything about either.

Now you disavow the label "soverign citizen" but again not the precepts contained in the article.

I never avowed it in the first place.  you pull it out of your ass and try to hang it your dip shit conclusions of what you :thought" I said on me well you can wear your own stanky shit diapers.

You attempt to obfuscate the issue by claiming that I do not read the laws and I am an enemy of the state, when time and again it is you who has declared The United States as illegitimate.

Nah they are a corporation so they are legitimate.  whats wrong with you? having problems digesting the complexities are ya?  You are getting it all wrong and it is so easy to blow you out of the water its boring.  Yes you are an enemy of the state and you are completely clueless how that could be possible leaving your bare ass swinging in the breeze for me to take pot shots at every time you start pounding on your key board.

How pathetic the worm's attempt to wriggle off the hook. Have you not expressed the opinion, nay the assertion, that you reject the 14th Amendment's definition of "citizen of the United States?"

Why would I reject it?  You mean am I subject to it? No.  You cant be a subject and a sovereign at the same time. Thats ADL double think for tards. You know like "sovereign-citizen", double think for tards who dont know any better.

Yes, you have. And have you not most recently declared that the county sheriff is the ultimate law figure and none above him? Yes you did.

Again that may be your interpretation of what I said and you are batting a huge zero so far.

And aren't these concepts discussed in the article? Yes they are. Do you disavow them now? No you do not.

I have no idea whats in the article except I know that coming from a bunch of commies its all bullshit.

What is your rebuttal? It is that the ADL is a communist promoting organization and that I am an enemy of the State. Typical smear tactics to be expected from such a bullshit artist.

Wrong again.  I told you where to look and you didnt or if you did you do not understand what you read. what ever makes no difference to me.

Come on, tell the truth. Wasnt the murderer Terry Nichols a hero figure deep in your dark soul? I say again, you lay down with dogs you smell like dogs.

Ok read this very very slowly so you can grasp it this time.  I have no idea what he claimed to be nor do I give a flying fuck.  It has nothing to do with sovereignty though I am sure in the next post you will be claiming osama bin laden is a sovereign next.

And I repeat, whatever you call your idealogy this evening,

Its the same tonite as it was last nite and the not before and the month before several years before that and will forever be.  Its not me who has comprehension problems about my idieology its you because its the same every day.  it only appears different becasue you cannot connect with the whole picture of what I talk about because you are to busy playing with yout little demonization agenda.

you have placed yourself grandly, proudly, arrogantly and repeatedly outside the citizenship of the United States.

Not at all!

LMAO I love using the same tactics the government uses to fuck peoples heads up.  I know sounds like a total contradiction but its not.  the government does it.  I am sure you wont catch it either and you will claim I contradicted myself when in fact I did not.  Maybe lucky will help you finger it out LMAO.

You have spewed it over and over like a broken sewer pipe. The United States Government is illegitimate and you can prove it by commonlaw and maritime law and whatever other figment of your smug imagination.

Ok here is a tiny little clue ok.  The united states government is legitimate, the united states corporation exceeded their jurisdiction hence their operation is illegitimate.

Inasmuch as you have opted out of the jurisdiction of the Federal Govt you have no standing to criticize it. Have I made my point clear enough? You have no standing to criticize. You are a freakin alien, albeit well-documented. LOL!!!

Not really funny though. Your political philosophy is despicable and tragic.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

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US Constitution, Article Three, The Judiciary
Section 1. The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behavior, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services a Compensation which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.

Section 2. The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority; to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls; to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction; to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party; to Controversies between two or more States; between a State and Citizens of another State; between Citizens of different States; between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.

In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.

Trial of all Crimes, except in Cases of Impeachment, shall be by Jury; and such Trial shall be held in the State where the said Crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any State, the Trial shall be at such Place or Places as the Congress may by Law have directed.

Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.


SIXTH Amendment:
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district where in the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

There you go Real, no please point out where the clause about common law that you keep throwing out there appears in the Constitution.

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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

Fast Reply -

Thank whatever you believe in that he failed spectacularly at the basic science and technology of bomb-making.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: luckydawg

It is very easy to show how you reject the Ocnstitution of the United States real.

Section III art 1.

"The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behavior, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services a Compensation which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office."


And that Supreme court has thrown out every bit of nonsense you post, about un ratified amendments the illegality of taxes, Sovreignity. every bit of it.

Accordign the the Constition, The USSC decides these things, not some dumb ass on the Web. You reject thier rulings. You have declared yourself to be an authority, and a judge many times. QED, you reject the Constitution.

Gee lucky your are one sharp tack!


Did you know that the judicial power of microsoft CORPORATION lies in the one bill gates.  So what?

In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in ANY Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

get it?

Tell me you get and explain what that means and how it plays out.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

really now?  I cant EVEN believe you said that man.

Like I literally fell right off my chair.

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ORIGINAL: luckydawg

Microsoft has no judicial powers, at all.


And I guess what that means is you do not understand the difference between civil and criminal law. as the 7th amendment(which you posted) only applies to civil cases. If you violate Us code, which is lawfully created under the constitution, you can't take it to a civil court and invoke rights under the 7th.

Also constituional challenges are not civil violations.

Judicial Power is vested in the supreme court(and inferior courts as created by congress), not the people.

At least according to the Constitution, which you reject.

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
Only sovereigns can create law.  know any slaves that made law for their masters lately?

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

You realize the other than PA, no one pays any real attention to you?

Well perhaps a chuckle or two, maybe a guffaw, possibly a chortle, but that's it really

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
crypto man dismisses everything out of hand.
SHOW ME where the people gave up judicial power crypto
very simple challenge.  you dont even have to think or use a brain cell.  just quote it.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
crypto man dismisses everything out of hand.
SHOW ME where the people gave up judicial power crypto
very simple challenge.  you dont even have to think or use a brain cell.  just quote it.

No, shithouse, tell you what, why dont you show me in the constitution where each power, exec, legis, judi, is invested in the individual.

You are non Campos, Mendez.

Jerry Garcia