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Real0ne -> RE: Times Square bomb attempt. (5/6/2010 7:05:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Loook, fuckstick ---- What republic? You proceed your arguments from fallacy, and then compound the error at each step. From whence are you invested with any right whatsoever? The fact that you are human? Hell no...heaven and hell has no interest in your finaglings with your penis. You have naught to say unless it be the purest form of abusion. There is no republic guarenteed under the constitution, nor inalienable or unalienable rights either, nor is there an individual sovereignty within the law, nor are you imbued with any individual judical, legislative, nor executive powers. I ran no circle, as always you did. You cannot show one shred of evidence on these points, you are always off in some bullshit tongue wagging contorted slime that elides the issue and demonstrates nothing. ok so everyone is a slave with no rights what so ever. that a pretty big tin foil hat you got there. I never said anything was guaranteed so stop with your shape shifting act because you know you get busted every time you try. I said SHOW ME Its really easy to quote something.

mnottertail -> RE: Times Square bomb attempt. (5/6/2010 7:11:49 AM)
I asked you to show me evidence of any of the asswipe you are spewing out here, and you don't. You are returned in kind.

Dubbelganger -> RE: Times Square bomb attempt. (5/6/2010 7:31:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jeffff You realize the other than PA, no one pays any real attention to you? Well perhaps a chuckle or two, maybe a guffaw, possibly a chortle, but that's it really I wish people would stop quoting him; defeats the purpose of the "Hide" button. I don't have PA on "hide" yet, as he's occasionally amusing. RO posts are malignantly moronic.

mnottertail -> RE: Times Square bomb attempt. (5/6/2010 7:33:17 AM)
malignantly moronic? certainly cretinous and infallibly imbicilic for sure.

Real0ne -> RE: Times Square bomb attempt. (5/6/2010 7:52:03 AM)
all you did is admit that you have absolutely no conception even at a grade school level what the foundations of the government are or shall I say what they were intended to be. I dont teach grade school ron and if that is the best you can do I will wait and see because I bet lucky can come up with something better than the bankrupt response you call an answer. and as far as the evidence you are again demanding its been posted several times before. try reading it.

Rule -> RE: Times Square bomb attempt. (5/6/2010 9:09:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne just spare me your renditions and "SHOW ME" where the people gave up judicial power. Did they ever truly have any other than that granted to them by their rulers? The only power that the people have is to behave decently and honorably.

rulemylife -> RE: Times Square bomb attempt. (5/6/2010 9:20:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne so your claim is the constitution wiped out the republic, and that takes us right back to my original challenge. all you did was run full circle now SHOW ME I aint getting any younger here You ain't getting any smarter either. You know brain cells die as you age?

Real0ne -> RE: Times Square bomb attempt. (5/6/2010 11:02:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rule quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne just spare me your renditions and "SHOW ME" where the people gave up judicial power. Did they ever truly have any other than that granted to them by their rulers? The only power that the people have is to behave decently and honorably. Behaving honorably as a sovereign is not a choice but a mandate. You wind up making your own treaties or give up your claim and become a "citizen". I do not know of another country where the people have sovereignty as a matter of right. The problem is that they are either clueless how to manifest it in their lives, or entrenched in the system as a citizen so deep they cant imagine doing things any other way. Some people are just plain lazy and as long as they have a beer and a remote they are happy and thats a quote. The underlying problem of course is that the guv having a vested interest as in money, in their chattel slaves do everything int heir power to put road blocks up to those who are capable of controlling their own lives. I mean they even attack the notaries who notarize the documents in full compliance with their commissions and some have tried to drag the notaries into court just for doing their jobs. Many of these cases now days are simply getting dismissed because people are getting way smarter and are on to the corp rape tactics. All these agencies they call guv in reality are nothing more than corporations operating in commercially and none of them have any sovereignty, they gave it away when they agreed to support the bankruptcy in 33. The original guv still exists its just ignored and operating out of the posing corporation. That is why the disappearance of common law and the justice of the peace, assemblies, and militias never really were legitimately in place. Great plan to shove that ole red white and blue dick squarely up the peoples asses and combine that with the tards who cannot think for themselves and are solely co-dependent on the guv umbilical cord and suffice to say this once great nation is doomed to the same incursion of rights they enjoy in europe, not to mention any time they want to create a distater it goes unchecked under state secrets of national security. No different than the horror stories the teachers used to teach us about russia when I was a kid. Fuck man several cities have armored cars in their police inventory. Hardly the land of the free.

Vendaval -> RE: Times Square bomb attempt. (5/6/2010 1:56:59 PM)
I see that your prayerful priorities remain in good working order. quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy quote: ORIGINAL: Vendaval Fast Reply - Thank whatever you believe in that he failed spectacularly at the basic science and technology of bomb-making. Thank you large breasted woman with butts like ten year old boys for not letting his poorly constructed bomb that had no chance of exploding not explode.

luckydawg -> RE: Times Square bomb attempt. (5/7/2010 3:35:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: luckydawg Microsoft has no judicial powers, at all. And I guess what that means is you do not understand the difference between civil and criminal law. as the 7th amendment(which you posted) only applies to civil cases. If you violate Us code, which is lawfully created under the constitution, you can't take it to a civil court and invoke rights under the 7th. Also constituional challenges are not civil violations. Judicial Power is vested in the supreme court(and inferior courts as created by congress), not the people. At least according to the Constitution, which you reject. you think not? When they decide to fire your ass you are gone. you agreed and consented to their rules. So, you clearly have no clue as to waht judicial powers are. firing is not part of it at all. If Microsoft thinks you stole from them, they have to use the actuall Criminall justice system to prosecute and punish you. they can't lock you in a duengoeon. If you work for them they have some power over you (contractually), but absolutly none judicially. But I really don't give a shiut about that, and am aware that yo are far too small a person to admit you were blowing smoke with that comment, and it is of course stoopid, as you like to say. so lets back up a minute here. Only sovereigns can create law. know any slaves that made law for their masters lately? So you think that the sovereign people with the authority to create law judge law and constitute it, created said constitution (Law) "under" their authority and the very second said constitution was enacted those same sovereign people now gave up all rights to create and judge Law and are now become subject to said constitution and forever slaves to said constitution relinquishing all their power to create and judge the law. Who would be that fucking stoopid? well dont answer the stoopid part. just spare me your renditions and "SHOW ME" where the people gave up judicial power. "just spare me your renditions and "SHOW ME" where the people gave up judicial power." I can very easily do so. In fact I already have. I have one simple yes or no question to ask you. Are you willing to answer a simple yes or no question? Directly no bullshit. I hope you are. Is the US Constituion Valid? I am not going to show you that the US Constitution is valid or not. Art sec 1 "The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. " That is the Constitution. If you oppose it, which you clearly do, you are an anti American Piece of shit. IF you support it, every aspect of the bullshit you push on every subject has been ruled wrong, and often criminal. Section 2 estblishes that "judicial Power" covers all cases in Law and Equity. No court can exist in the USA that is not inferior to the USSC. Note they use the exact same phrase. ""judicial Power"

luckydawg -> RE: Times Square bomb attempt. (5/7/2010 3:48:09 AM)
I have been thinking though. If Real and PA, et al are not citizens of the USA, but soverigns. Doesn't that make them Illegal Aliens? Do they have visas? green cards? According to the Constitution, since they were born here, they are citizens, but they seem to have voluntarily given up that priviledge, and have rejected citizenship. Hence they are Aliens, and with out proper Visas and permits are illegal. And as Illegal Aliens, they should be immediatly arrested and deported. Or held in custody untill they determine where to send them. These vermin use our services, and drain our taxes, and take our jobs, and drive down our wages, and spread diseases. Remember that everytime you see real, term (I wonder how this soverign citizen bullshit will work for his DUI) or PA posting We should certainly get the ones that openly want to take down our Government off the street.

vincentML -> RE: Times Square bomb attempt. (5/7/2010 7:10:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: luckydawg I have been thinking though. If Real and PA, et al are not citizens of the USA, but soverigns. Doesn't that make them Illegal Aliens? Do they have visas? green cards? According to the Constitution, since they were born here, they are citizens, but they seem to have voluntarily given up that priviledge, and have rejected citizenship. Hence they are Aliens, and with out proper Visas and permits are illegal. And as Illegal Aliens, they should be immediatly arrested and deported. Or held in custody untill they determine where to send them. These vermin use our services, and drain our taxes, and take our jobs, and drive down our wages, and spread diseases. Remember that everytime you see real, term (I wonder how this soverign citizen bullshit will work for his DUI) or PA posting We should certainly get the ones that openly want to take down our Government off the street. Damn! You beat me to it, dawg. I was thinking the same thing. Also I wonder if they generate their own electricity or are tied into a regional grid and how independent is that? Do they travel on the Federal Interstate System or fly through Fed controlled skies and airports. I wonder where they keep their money. Not FDIC insured I would hope. Oh, I could go on. But RO will simply reply that we have not read as much as he has. [sm=rofl.gif]

thompsonx -> RE: Times Square bomb attempt. (5/7/2010 3:49:06 PM)
quote: What matters is that he was willing to kill innocent civilians in a cowardly way. Is it just as cowardly when we do it with a cruise missile?

zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Times Square bomb attempt. (5/7/2010 4:26:24 PM)
ld I dare you to show me proof that they were even born on this planet, which makes them illegal aliens - literally!

Real0ne -> RE: Times Square bomb attempt. (5/7/2010 6:12:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: luckydawg "just spare me your renditions and "SHOW ME" where the people gave up judicial power." I can very easily do so. In fact I already have. I have one simple yes or no question to ask you. Are you willing to answer a simple yes or no question? Directly no bullshit. I hope you are. Is the US Constituion Valid? I am not going to show you that the US Constitution is valid or not. Art sec 1 "The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. " That is the Constitution. If you oppose it, which you clearly do, you are an anti American Piece of shit. IF you support it, every aspect of the bullshit you push on every subject has been ruled wrong, and often criminal. Section 2 estblishes that "judicial Power" covers all cases in Law and Equity. No court can exist in the USA that is not inferior to the USSC. Note they use the exact same phrase. ""judicial Power" Ok lets start with the basics then. What are the main lets say top 10 purposes constitution. That should take it deep enough for you to lay it out. If you get it right you will answer your own question.

Real0ne -> RE: Times Square bomb attempt. (5/7/2010 6:19:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: luckydawg I have been thinking though. If Real and PA, et al are not citizens of the USA, but soverigns. Doesn't that make them Illegal Aliens? Do they have visas? green cards? According to the Constitution, since they were born here, they are citizens, but they seem to have voluntarily given up that priviledge, and have rejected citizenship. Hence they are Aliens, and with out proper Visas and permits are illegal. And as Illegal Aliens, they should be immediatly arrested and deported. Or held in custody untill they determine where to send them. These vermin use our services, and drain our taxes, and take our jobs, and drive down our wages, and spread diseases. Remember that everytime you see real, term (I wonder how this soverign citizen bullshit will work for his DUI) or PA posting We should certainly get the ones that openly want to take down our Government off the street. What gives you the idea that you are automatically a US citizen just because you were born here? I will give you a hint ok. It is possible to automatically be a UScitizen if you are born here do you know how that works? It seems we really need to start from the basics here.

Real0ne -> RE: Times Square bomb attempt. (5/7/2010 6:25:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML Also I wonder if they generate their own electricity or are tied into a regional grid and how independent is that? YUP Do they travel on the Federal Interstate System or YUP fly through Fed controlled skies and airports. YUP LOL

rulemylife -> RE: Times Square bomb attempt. (5/7/2010 6:28:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: What matters is that he was willing to kill innocent civilians in a cowardly way. Is it just as cowardly when we do it with a cruise missile? You are really Bill Maher aren't you? Don't try to deny it.

rulemylife -> RE: Times Square bomb attempt. (5/7/2010 6:36:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne What gives you the idea that you are automatically a US citizen just because you were born here? I will give you a hint ok. I'll give you a hint, ok? It's called federal law. Constitutional Topic: Citizenship - The U.S. Constitution Online Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:" Anyone born inside the United States

vincentML -> RE: Times Square bomb attempt. (5/7/2010 6:48:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML Also I wonder if they generate their own electricity or are tied into a regional grid and how independent is that? YUP Do they travel on the Federal Interstate System or YUP fly through Fed controlled skies and airports. YUP LOL Excellent!! Then you will have no trouble when you wish to visit your philosophical soul brother, the murderer Terry Nichols, in Federal Penitentiary.

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