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ORIGINAL: thornhappy

CDs are digital - and have higher quality sound than mp3s.

You are such a know it all little phoque....
That is sooooo hawt

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ORIGINAL: Elisabella
Stereos? Well you answered that one yourself, what use is a CD player these days, who would keep buying plastic, easily scratchable copies of music when they can get pristine digital sound?

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But anyway, you can say the same about anything...TV's? Do you want to use an analog TV? Oh wait, you can't use an analog TV anymore, that investment is wasted.

I bought an analog TV in 1970,it is a Sanyo and it still works with the set top box for digital...I think I paid about three hundred dollars for it...forty years divided into three hundred dollars ....Yes I think I have got my moneys worth. I don't watch it much because I have a computer that does the same thing but only uses 80watts while the TV uses about 500. I am on solar power and have a fetish about the efficient use of electricity.


Cars? Aside from things like emission tests, cars are a lot more efficient when it comes to MPG these days,

In 1963 Chrysler entered three Plymouth Valiants in the economy race to see who had the best milage figures.
I dont think Toyota makes a car as big as a Valiant.
Chrysler won the race 1,2,3 with 36mpg.
36 mpg in 1963 with a production car that weighed nearly two tons and would exceed 120mph.
Yup we shore have made a lot of progress...


especially since the price of gasoline has probably quadrupled in the past 15 years.

Six months before the last election gasoline in California was $5 a gallon.
Two months before the last election gasoline in california was $1.50 a gallon.
Now the price of gasoline in California is $3.40 a gallon and the summer vacation season is aproaching ...I can see five bux a gallon by July.

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ORIGINAL: MichiganHeadmast

Fair question, PA:

What do you build?

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: MichiganHeadmast

Fair question, PA:

What do you build?

conspiracies

Shoddy ones

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej8MXv386Dc&playnext_from=TL&videos=kUKynnveVhM  this lady is upset

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/shoddy.php

We are already a third-world country in terms of what we make and what our stores sell to us. Our computers fail, our software crashes, flashlights don't work when you need them, Apple Blue tooth headsets fail after a week, Avatar Blu-Ray disks won't play at all right out of the box, bridges collapse, levees fail, coal mines collapse, and oil rigs explode. GM proclaims that it paid back its TARP loans, but they had to borrow more TARP money to do it. Nobody wants to buy a GM car, as they still lag way behind their Asian and European counterparts. As a nation we cannot build a better future as long as the business model is to force us to keep re-buying the present. And I find it amazing that the very same people screaming about the environment and carbon taxes seem not to understand that the constant forced re-buying of shoddy products to replace shoddy products to replace shoddy products to replace shoddy products to replace shoddy products is a major cause of pollution and depletion of the Earth's resources/snip

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/shoddy.php

We are already a third-world country in terms of what we make and what our stores sell to us. Our computers fail, our software crashes, flashlights don't work when you need them, Apple Blue tooth headsets fail after a week, Avatar Blu-Ray disks won't play at all right out of the box, bridges collapse, levees fail, coal mines collapse, and oil rigs explode. GM proclaims that it paid back its TARP loans, but they had to borrow more TARP money to do it. Nobody wants to buy a GM car, as they still lag way behind their Asian and European counterparts. As a nation we cannot build a better future as long as the business model is to force us to keep re-buying the present. And I find it amazing that the very same people screaming about the environment and carbon taxes seem not to understand that the constant forced re-buying of shoddy products to replace shoddy products to replace shoddy products to replace shoddy products to replace shoddy products is a major cause of pollution and depletion of the Earth's resources/snip

Agreed. If the US does make anything at all, it's just as shoddy as the Chinese crap. The only way to get anything decent anymore is at thrift stores, where you can get stuff made in the 60s and 70s. I was amazed looking through some old junk recently how well made it was. Most said "Made in USA" or "Made in Canada" and were sturdy and well designed. And anyone knows, you always buy a vacuum cleaner that is as old as you can find. The older, the better it will work and the longer it will last. Amazing how far in the wrong direction we've gone.

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Just do like I do, PA: buy old crap instead of the new shit when possible.
Won't work with a laptop, but I've got a few fountain pens that are older than my parents and make mincemeat out of anything Newell Rubberwear* or Montblanc are putting out at the moment. You can get an aerometric Parker 51 from the '40s for about a tenth of what you'd pay for one of those stupid "precious resin" banker's pens with a snowflake on the cap, and old duofolds and vacumatics (unless they're very well preserved or particularly desirable models) aren't that much more. If you are going to get into an ecological argument, few technologies are greener than a pen with a refillable internal reservoir that's already lasted sixty odd years...

*(An American kitchenwear producer that bought out Sanford a few years back, and so now owns Rotring, Parker, Papermate and Waterman. Their first move was to pull plug on the nice expensive Parker models and the cheap entry level Waterman ones, in order to distinguish the brands, while doing away with Rotring fountain pens entirely. They also seem to have stopped production on Papermate biro refills as well, which is annoying if you're around my age and have been using one of the nice refillable papermates for twenty odd years. They haven't done that with the Parker biros yet, at least.)