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pahunkboy -> RE: A bit of Justice finally (5/3/2010 12:46:02 PM)
Very few complaints tho win in court. Is this the guy who was mad over being told to not make a cell phone call by a female guard? lol.

BoiJen -> RE: A bit of Justice finally (5/3/2010 12:48:51 PM)
Same guy.

pahunkboy -> RE: A bit of Justice finally (5/3/2010 1:07:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoiJen Same guy. -- ah. He does seem to be mad at woman. I am not sure what that solves.

lobodomslavery -> RE: A bit of Justice finally (5/3/2010 1:17:38 PM)
Shows how misinformed you are. Im actually not on the dole. I dont qualify as i am on work experience, will have a job by end of summer hopefully kevin

blueeyedbbwsub -> RE: A bit of Justice finally (5/3/2010 2:58:50 PM)
Isn't end of summer about 4 mos away? Just sayin........ What happens between now and then? Other than the weather?

pahunkboy -> RE: A bit of Justice finally (5/3/2010 3:04:34 PM)
It is tho a tough job market.

VaguelyCurious -> RE: A bit of Justice finally (5/3/2010 5:48:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery Shows how misinformed you are. Im actually not on the dole. I dont qualify as i am on work experience, will have a job by end of summer hopefully kevin Well hunky will have to forgive me for not keeping up with the ins and outs of your day to day life, Kevin. You said a while ago that you were on the dole. I don't have the energy to go and find the quote. I assumed nothing had changed. Good luck with the job.

GraciousLady -> RE: A bit of Justice finally (5/3/2010 8:27:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery A great story today. A Woman on £577,000 till her sacking in February 09, having been with the company from 04 starting on 50,000 got her just deserts for Her greed in taking a £4 million pound case against Her employer. Nothing . nada. zilch, no compensation , unfair dismissal claim thrown out, harrassment claim thrown out. A welcome dose of reality for this Woman finally. At a time when so may are unemployed. We know the reason why. Because bimbos like Her have been over paid for far too long kevin Ok, you don't like women. That's your personal feelings and I respect them. But I see no reason to be upset because someone makes a lot of money at work. That has nothing to do with the high unemployment rates all over the world. Some jobs just pay more than others and we can't all have the high paying ones. Would you turn down a high paying job just because it pays well? I do not think so! I surely would not.

WyldHrt -> RE: A bit of Justice finally (5/3/2010 9:37:18 PM)
quote: Would you turn down a high paying job just because it pays well? I do not think so! I surely would not. But kevvy is a guy, so he deserves a high paying job... whether he is remotely qualified or not. Right, kev? [:D]

Termyn8or -> RE: A bit of Justice finally (5/4/2010 3:01:13 AM)
FR The fiftyninth axiom : If you get by on your looks, get ready to eventually put out. Need I say more ? T

zephyroftheNorth -> RE: A bit of Justice finally (5/4/2010 3:27:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyEllen The reasons Kevin feels this way have been written oft and wide on these boards; he has zero self esteem and is wholly disinterested in resolving that issue through tackling his negative inner self commentary - something which if he embarked on the cure would take him out of what has become a comfy little rut and might find him in a job and in a relationship - both scary concepts for him in the place he finds himself now. E Not to mention his own conviction that he was wrongly fired - by a woman if I remember correctly.

lobodomslavery -> RE: A bit of Justice finally (5/4/2010 3:31:22 AM)
If people were not paid so highly there would be more employment as companies would have more money to pay other staff instead of spending which is what it is, an employee is a company expense, they cost, instead of spending like i say a disproportionate amount of money on a minority of employees, does that make sense to you now, consequently you have a situation now where companies cannot hire people because they cant afford it, and why they cannot afford it. Because their wage bill is too high for some of their existing staff while the majority suck up to tax cuts and salary reductions. And for what? To pay a minority of people in exceess of 500,000 pounds per year in a recession. Please? That would make anyone upset kevin

lobodomslavery -> RE: A bit of Justice finally (5/4/2010 3:33:23 AM)
And nothing to do with Women either. There are men and Women who cannot get paid jobs in this economy because a minority of men and some Women are taking unjustifiably high salaries. And are they delivering ? No hence the shit we are in kevin

LadyEllen -> RE: A bit of Justice finally (5/4/2010 4:09:10 AM)
I dont think you understand what a job is Kevin. No one employs others out of the goodness of their hearts, and no one sets salaries on the basis of the needs and desires of staff. You get offered a job because by way of you doing that job the employer gains a benefit. The salary is determined pro rata that benefit to the employer such that the employer retains a benefit after paying you and your expenses. If you have the abilities and knowledge then you can provide to an employer an enormous benefit such that you may demand an enormous salary and get it because the whole arrangement benefits the employer even though your compensation is enormous. If you have few or no abilities, little or no knowledge then youre unlikely to provide any employer with enough of a benefit to either warrant employment or to generate sufficient benefit to be awarded anything more than a bare minimum salary. This woman got her enormous salary because she brought in enough benefit to the company to support it and leave some over for the employer. Given the benefit of employing her, employers should have to compete to do so, driving their salary offers to the maximum possible in order for them to retain benefit. Its really that simple. E

DarkSteven -> RE: A bit of Justice finally (5/4/2010 6:50:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery She joined the company in 04, She is paid 50.000 fair enough. Less than five years later She is on 577,000, tell me thats not crazy, how many employees are on that salary after less than five years service. None. No wonder the economy is in the shit when we have human resource directors who do this. She was WAY over paid kevin 50K pounds a year is pretty substantial. To go from that to 577K pounds clearly indicates several promotions. Or, since it is clearly a financial firm, perhaps they grew during that time. The only way someone rising that fast would get sacked is due to improper behavior - I suspect lying or taking credit for others' work. Since she threw together a hokey sexual harassment claim, it sounds like she's ethically challenged.

tigreetsa -> RE: A bit of Justice finally (5/4/2010 9:18:13 AM)
Making judgments about people based on their material income? Thanks but no thanks.

thompsonx -> RE: A bit of Justice finally (5/4/2010 9:45:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyEllen I dont think you understand what a job is Kevin. No one employs others out of the goodness of their hearts, and no one sets salaries on the basis of the needs and desires of staff. Lady E you know that on a great many things thee and me do agree...but on this I must object. On a regular bassis I employ women out of the goodness of my heart and their compensation is baised entirely on my needs and desires. You get offered a job because by way of you doing that job the employer gains a benefit. No arguemet from me here The salary is determined pro rata that benefit to the employer such that the employer retains a benefit after paying you and your expenses. Every hooker I hire wants the money up front If you have the abilities and knowledge then you can provide to an employer an enormous benefit such that you may demand an enormous salary and get it because the whole arrangement benefits the employer even though your compensation is enormous. I think I may be with keven here in that pussy can only get so good...I am not sure I can tell the difference between a five hundred dollar a night hooker and a ten thousand dollar a night hooker...although elliot spitzer claims he can. If you have few or no abilities, little or no knowledge then youre unlikely to provide any employer with enough of a benefit to either warrant employment or to generate sufficient benefit to be awarded anything more than a bare minimum salary. The ones who just lay there and do their nails on company time just dont get a second interview This woman got her enormous salary because she brought in enough benefit to the company to support it and leave some over for the employer. Given the benefit of employing her, employers should have to compete to do so, driving their salary offers to the maximum possible in order for them to retain benefit. I would like to think I am smart enough not to get into a poker game with those kinds of stakes. Its really that simple. Kevin...you need to listen up here E

thompsonx -> RE: A bit of Justice finally (5/4/2010 9:50:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WyldHrt quote: Would you turn down a high paying job just because it pays well? I do not think so! I surely would not. But kevvy is a guy, so he deserves a high paying job... whether he is remotely qualified or not. Right, kev? [:D] I will bet the men in islamic republics don't have to put up with that sort of "feminaziism" perhaps as a birth day present we could take up a collection for a little vacation for k...tosses $2 bux in the pot

thompsonx -> RE: A bit of Justice finally (5/4/2010 9:52:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef And you wonder why nobody wants anything to do with you. Here's a hint, the fact that you're a lazy tosspot living on the dole is a very small part of it. ~stef One of the things I have always admired about you is that you always use a very sharp knife.[;)]

lobodomslavery -> RE: A bit of Justice finally (5/4/2010 10:05:30 AM)
Very well. But lets get a few things straight. Number one. She did not add value to the company if she did , She would not have been fired. She was outrageously over paid. But She is not the only one. There are many men that are over paid too. They are not delivering and hence we are in the situation we are in, not getting any value for money and not making any economic headway. Consider this as an alternative given our collective economic paralysis at the moment. I believe that salaries at the top end need to be adjusted. Downwards. Why? What benefit will this give to companies and society as a whole? Firstly it will allow companies to hire. Companies that are not hiring will be able to hire entry level staff which are much needed at the moment but cant be afforded because people at the top are being over paid. Really top managers should not grumble about a salary give or take a 10% margin of $200,000 to $250,0000, top CEOs should be happy , given our economic circumstances with a salary of around $750,000- $800,000 again give or take 10% and not the current $2- $3 million which means that companies cant afford to hire staff. And why not? Because they cant afford to and why is that? Because they pay their top guys and top ladies too much and these guys at the top are not justifying their salaries. So hence we have the worst of both worlds. We have non existent growth, we have huge levels of unemployment and we have companies unable to hire staff. We have existing staff with disproportionate work loads, doing the work of more than one person in many cases and this is putting an unfair pressure on them. Reduce the top salaries and what happens/ Suddenly there is an extra few quid. Suddenly instead of paying a CEO 3 million dollars or 2 million dollars or some figure like this you pay them 800,000 and whippededoodaday there is an extra $1.2 to $2.2 million dollars to pay for much needed extra staff. 1 million dollars , would pay for 50 entry level staff in each company, earning 20,000 dollars each , it would certainly bring in extra staff anyway , you could get say 10 supervisors paying them 40,000 each and 30 clerical staff paying 20,000 dollars each. Do this in every company and the unemployment situation is fixed. What are the other benefits? Our collective finances improve as more tax is brought in. It is a win win but sadly there are too many companies out there that are too greedy or too irresponsible to conceive of it. And if the staff dont work out they can always be fired. By not even thinking about hiring and paying your top guys way in excess of what they are delivering for the company you keep the recession going. And ultimately if a company does not take a chance on hiring new blood our collective economies will never recover kevin

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