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ORIGINAL: herfacechair

pahunkboy:I do not thank you. I don't dis-thank you either.

I expected this kind of response from your kind.

pahunkboy: I have talked in detail to 3 who served.

I've lost count of how many soldiers/service members/civilians, serving in Iraq, or who have served in Iraq, that I've talked to in detail. The majority share my argument and my observations.

pahunkboy: So now we have 1.3 mil dead Iraqis.

Your numbers are questionable, and keep in mind that most died as a result of terrorist actions.

pahunkboy: I am not sure how this frees anyone.

Every Iraqi that I saw and interacted with in Iraq enjoyed freedoms they didn't have while under Saddam.

pahunkboy: We are in Iraq for oil. Oil because of the petro $. The dollar is back by oil and bombs. Not gold.

No we're not there for oil. In fact, the Iraqi government recently bided contracts to develop the oil industry... US industry was present, but didn't bid.

The majority of our oil comes from the Western Hemisphere, with Canada, Mexico, and Venezuela being our major suppliers. If this were about oil, we would've invaded Venezuela.

pahunkboy: Here we are in 2 endless wars and people here in this board are swooning to thank this guy.

We won the war in Iraq with a straight cut victory. It's peace time there the vast majority of the time, with the Iraqi military doing the vast majority of the fight when it does happen, and soon to take over all the fight, from assault to support/security and logistics.

pahunkboy: if the US send troops to Pennsylvania in the manner that we did Iraq, we would shoot back.

If the Pennsylvania government sends people through plastic shredders, feet first, simply because of paranoia, if they filled mass graves with people they push through kangaroo courts/then summarily executed, if the Pennsylvania government sanctioned rape, if they take actions that cause Pennsylvanians to constantly fear for their lives, and so on, we'd be sending troops there in the manner that we did Iraq.

Do look at the bigger picture before comparing apples and oranges.

Your criticism of the people thanking me is based on your disagreement with the Iraq War, and with what I'm saying, and not on any real, unbiased, look on what's going on.

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For decades, the Vietnamese had a section in their war victory museum, dedicated to John Kerry and the anti war demonstrators.

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This isn't just about "one man's account." This is about a first hand account of what's happening in Iraq,

You may be a little too young to remember General waste more land giving his little pep talks from the front telling the american people the first hand blah blah balh...
Funny your tail sounds just like his...I know his story was bullshit because I was there when he was running his mouth.

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

Yea, how dare he start a thread and then leave. This forum is far more important that anything he could be doing in the real world.

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ORIGINAL: herfacechair
They can't stand the fact that a service member would present information that destroys their misguided interpretation of what's going on out there... dismissing my service is much easier for them than it is for them to swallow their ego and accept the fact that they're on the wrong side of the argument.

And many of the people, on their side of the argument, accuse people on my side of the argument as being "narrow minded."

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff

You don't have to be a genius to realize that while RO is a whack job, one man's account is just that, one man's account.

I am not trying to diminish his service, I don't know anything about it.

Of course, I didn't try to diminish John Kerry's service either.

Whatever his reasons for serving I would thank him for his service. That doesn't mean I have to buy into anyones agenda

You also don't have to be a genius to figure out that domi has a real problem with sanity and will go to any lengths to slam one of his posts. And you will follow behind agreeing with anything he says in the hope of making sanity look like an ass. There are times, I would even agree with the two of you, but to get your panties in a twist because sanity suggested the OP might be setting some things straight is a bit of a reach.

What exactly is the OP setting straight?

That there were chemical weapons used repeatedly on our troops and they were used on Iraqi civilians as recently as a few weeks ago?

Funny how no one except our war hero seems to know about those things.

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ORIGINAL: Jeffff
To say that you have the real story and only you is silly. To imply that we if we disagree with you we are not supportive of people who have served is also bullshit.

You came here to set us straight. We don't believe YOU, that is not an indictment of every other service person. 

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Anyhow- a service stud- would have flown how many hours?   So figure jet lag.   I am sure he has fun stuff to do then to babysit us.

He does have a point- that they cant really advertise a big success as a new school would be a pile of rubble.

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

Hey you guys,

I am about to go out for the evening soon....Would you like to ask me any questions about beer before I go?

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ORIGINAL: herfacechair



The main push behind this is that I have recent, first hand account of what's it like in Iraq, compared to the perspective by those I'm debating with.[/color]