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RE: Potentially dangerous activities - 5/8/2010 7:12:26 AM   
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Besides electricity and fire, what other potentially dangerous things do we do?


Using a dremel tool as a high-speed vibrator ...



I just want it noted here for the record. If my clit never comes out of hiding as a result of what I just read. I am holding you fully responsible.


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RE: Potentially dangerous activities - 5/8/2010 7:33:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'd recommend a vacuum hose but people might think it breaks capillaries.


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Besides electricity and fire, what other potentially dangerous things do we do?


Using a dremel tool as a high-speed vibrator ...



I just want it noted here for the record. If my clit never comes out of hiding as a result of what I just read. I am holding you fully responsible.



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RE: Potentially dangerous activities - 5/8/2010 8:09:08 AM   
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While I am willing to do many things for a Mistress that may not be pleasurable in themselves, there are some things I would have to refuse to do.  Playing with electricity is one of those.  It just seems foolish and unnecessarily dangerous.  The risk/reward ratio appears way unbalanced.  And if things go very wrong, someone could end up dead while the other party could go to prison.  Am I the only one who feels this way?


Electricity like most things we have about us has a potential danger and again like almost everything he handle or do in life there is a possibility for damage or even death. It might be a giggle to watch the antics if someone spills a drop of scalding hot coffee on themselves, but spill a cup even on a T-shirt and you risk serious burns before you can get the hot wet shirt off (Been there. Done that. Have the scar to prove it too.). My point is that most things you are likely to come across are reasonably safe providing the people in charge know what they are doing, have a good understanding and experience in it's use and you understand the risks. I've seen injuries done by impropperly handles floggers, crops and canes as well as problems caused by an inexperienced person doing rope bondage including suspension bondage. I have seen damage done by knives (have a scar below my belly button from a knife fight) and a scar on my throat from a broken bottle. Needles can do terrible dammage in the hands of inexperienced persons trying needle play without supervision.

Some folk have issues with electricity and perhaps they should have this as a hard limit.


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RE: Potentially dangerous activities - 5/8/2010 8:23:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		My Master, my playpartner and I just went to a hands-on fireplay class this week. We've engaged in needleplay and electrical play before, and plan to keep doing so. We don't do it for show - other than the class, I haven't engaged in any of those things with an audience, and I've done fireplay (on both sides of it) in private with previous partners. They just feel good, on both sides of things. There are lots of things that people don't think of as dangerous that *could* easily harm me, in kinky or vanilla sex situations, so I make sure I discuss them thoroughly before getting involved with anyone. In general, yes, there are risks to the BDSM activities I engage in, to a greater or lesser extent, but I figure I'm more likely to get killed or injured in a traffic accident, statistically speaking. One of my vanilla hobbies is actually relatively very safe - nobody has died or been seriously injured doing it, but it *looks* scary! So, people often express concern if they see pictures or video from it.

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RE: Potentially dangerous activities - 5/8/2010 8:26:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		What a "Shocking" subject!? Sorry for the pun all. A Hard limit is a great idea and having some one who is a expert helps alot. As well as that person knowing advance CPR, in case of a accident.

Even the lowest voltage can be bad if the person it is used on is sweaty or has very moist skin that day. Remeber its not the Voltage that kills but it is the Watts and it doesnt take much to knock your hear out of its normal ryhtm. There are Shops that sell Electro kits and toys but most are supposed to be safe?

But always be safe in your play and if anyone asks you to do0 something that scares you, then just say....NO!!!

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RE: Potentially dangerous activities - 5/8/2010 8:43:44 AM   
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if anyone asks you to do0 something that scares you, then just say....NO!!!


But, but....where's the fun in that?????



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RE: Potentially dangerous activities - 5/8/2010 9:00:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		But, but~~~~ Where is the fun if that scared person walks away from BDSM permanently and is left with an entirely wrong concept of what we do? Or dies from a heart attack.. Fast answer is NONE. 

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RE: Potentially dangerous activities - 5/8/2010 9:45:43 AM   
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If I were a bottom/sub/slave, I would refuse to stay in a relationship with someone who asked me to do thing that could harm me.

- LA

So if he/she asked you to drive him/her to the mall, you would leave? Just sayin.....that COULD harm you. Driving toward downtown LR is the scariest damn thing I do all week and very potentially the most life-threatening. ANYTHING CAN harm you..............luci


luci, I just knew someone would take this post way too literally. Didn't think it would be you ;-)

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RE: Potentially dangerous activities - 5/8/2010 9:49:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think you took me too literally, IronBear.  It was a bit of a joke.  If you read my previous post in this thread, you would know that I enjoy doing things & having things done to me that scare me.  YMMV 

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RE: Potentially dangerous activities - 5/8/2010 9:55:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have an acquaintance in the scene who has been playing longer than I have been alive. He has second degree burns due to Fireplay Gone Wrong, had to have surgery due to Things Being Stuck, and merrily goes along. We all have our personal risk levels. Me, I am glad to say that after all this time I have never needed to use more first aid than a bandaid or 4x4. I like to think that's because I am good at assessing situations, because heaven knows I am not the queen of caution.

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RE: Potentially dangerous activities - 5/8/2010 10:00:06 AM   
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I'd recommend a vacuum hose but people might think it breaks capillaries.



Just when it thought it was comfortable with sticking it's little head out, someone has to come along and send it right back up my throat.


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RE: Potentially dangerous activities - 5/8/2010 10:10:49 AM   
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I'd recommend a vacuum hose but people might think it breaks capillaries.



Just when it thought it was comfortable with sticking it's little head out, someone has to come along and send it right back up my throat.



Dang, that was sounding like serious FUN!!

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RE: Potentially dangerous activities - 5/8/2010 12:07:20 PM   
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I think you took me too literally, IronBear.  It was a bit of a joke.  If you read my previous post in this thread, you would know that I enjoy doing things & having things done to me that scare me.  YMMV 


Hmmmm wellll seeing that I do have both a Machiavellian SOH and a penchant for taking people literally until I know them well enough to know when they are leg pulling or otherwise joking, I imagine that this revelation should not come as a surprise to me. However, this not withstanding, and knowing that there is a reasonable chance one or three others may have also taken you literally, perhaps my post was well placed or perhaps not. But, no I hadn't for some unfathomable reason read your previous post. Probably because I was multitasking and it was well after midnight (well past my hibernation time) when I read the thread originally so just my bad fortune I imagine.


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RE: Potentially dangerous activities - 5/8/2010 12:18:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		You're not the only one that feels that way. While I have tried very mild electric play below the waist and I am mostly open to try most things with a few hard limits that are quirky to myself personally, my general rule of thumb is anything that I feel has the potential to end up in an embarassing ER visit or permanent damage, is definitely a hard limit. There are just some things our body is not meant to endure.

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RE: Potentially dangerous activities - 5/9/2010 2:02:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		Even the supposed experts get it wrong sometimes.

Last summer a 'fire play expert' was doing a performance on fire play. He was wearing those flame throwing things that attach to each finger and what was supposed to happen was, as he threw his hands out towards the sub, fingers spread wide and pointing towards her, flames were supposed to jump out at her. Well he did this but no flames and so he did it again. Again no flames and by now it was getting embarrassing. Looking at his hands and the invisible mechanism that was supposed to ignite the flames, he flicked one more time. Bingo, it worked but the problem was, he had his fingers pointing towards his face and he ended up burning off his own eyebrows and the front of his hair............ oops!

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RE: Potentially dangerous activities - 5/9/2010 3:55:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		In my couple of years of being on the BDSM & fetish scene Id have to say the only seriously dangerous forms of play Ive seen up close and people playing for the first time in Breath control and those either playing with poppers and electro, Ive seen friends get seriously hurt for tops playing with new fun play without knowing how to use them properley.

Ive also seen a close friend die while playing in BC

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RE: Potentially dangerous activities - 5/9/2010 6:59:52 AM   
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In all the I years I have been on the scene and thats a lot of years, I have only ever once seen someone get hurt and that was through lack of circulation from bondage. I can't think of a single time I have seen breath play or strangulation play in public, apart from a workshop I attended.
What I have seen is ignorance and stupidity with needle play but the consequences of that will come later.
I did once see a Mistress run her vampire glove down a guys back until it bled before going on to the next man with the same glove, but again, the consequences of such stupidity will only be seen at a later date.



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RE: Potentially dangerous activities - 5/10/2010 6:06:59 AM   
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Even the supposed experts get it wrong sometimes.

Last summer a 'fire play expert' was doing a performance on fire play. He was wearing those flame throwing things that attach to each finger and what was supposed to happen was, as he threw his hands out towards the sub, fingers spread wide and pointing towards her, flames were supposed to jump out at her. Well he did this but no flames and so he did it again. Again no flames and by now it was getting embarrassing. Looking at his hands and the invisible mechanism that was supposed to ignite the flames, he flicked one more time. Bingo, it worked but the problem was, he had his fingers pointing towards his face and he ended up burning off his own eyebrows and the front of his hair............ oops!


Damned new fangled contraptions. What may I ask (rhetorically) is wrong with the old fashion method of blowing a mouth full of flammable liquid igniting it with a burning torch and creating a holocaust of fire? It is a magnificent display and when I do it and bathe a naked girl with the fire, her head is encased with a leather hood which is thickly coated with the fire retardant jell used by the stunt personnel. The only problem we have ever had, was when I failed to check the female "target" had shaved her pubes so we had a hot pussy due to smouldering pubic stubble.. It still was a rather memorable event just the same with no pain nor injuries to the rather brave girl. and boy oh boy didn't she look a treat with her naked body being bathed in fire.


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RE: Potentially dangerous activities - 5/10/2010 7:23:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		I would of loved to of seen that IronBear. Whats more, I would love to know how to do that. The problem with doing such a thing is, people really do believe your playing dangerously and yet I bet your one of the safest guys to play with!
I have some friends that throw fire lit bullwhips and that looks pretty spectacular.

I once did a performance with a guy hung on flesh hooks. I had previously draped fire cotton around his body and that white flash of fire as he ignited looked pretty awesome.
If I am going to create a performance then its with the intention of head fucking the spectators. People have said to me 'Oh your MariaB. We have heard your very formidable and scary'
The truth is, I'm into precision engineering. Every act, like the one I mentioned above, is risk assessed and then planned out with the experts before being carefully and methodically put into place. When the performance takes place its made to look like its off the cuff and often looks very dangerous. We always tell people 'don't try this at home'



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RE: Potentially dangerous activities - 5/10/2010 9:58:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		Eye Lass, I agree. My second wife was the top fire eater in Australia and a jolly good stripper too. She taught me well and when we blew a double holocaust so they both met it was a sight to see. We both got burned at times so had a good safety regime. Friends knew when I'd been fire eating because the hairs on my forearms were singed off and my beard was shortened after also.. It's all about thinking things through, planning for emergencies, knowing what to do if an accident happened, ensuring there was no winds tyo cause problems and not allowing others to rush you to start before you are ready. of course you also learn not to swallow. Cocola was a great mouth wash after too.. 

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