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Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer does it again. - 5/12/2010 8:01:10 AM   
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PHOENIX – Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer has signed a bill targeting a school district's ethnic studies program, hours after a report by United Nations human rights experts condemned the measure.

State schools chief Tom Horne, who has pushed the bill for years, said he believes the Tucson school district's Mexican-American studies program teaches Latino students that they are oppressed by white people.

Public schools should not be encouraging students to resent a particular race, he said.

"It's just like the old South, and it's long past time that we prohibited it," Horne said.

Brewer's signature on the bill Tuesday comes less than a month after she signed the nation's toughest crackdown on illegal immigration — a move that ignited international backlash amid charges the measure would encourage racial profiling of Hispanics. The governor has said profiling will not be tolerated.

The measure signed Tuesday prohibits classes that advocate ethnic solidarity, that are designed primarily for students of a particular race or that promote resentment toward a certain ethnic group.

The Tucson Unified School District program offers specialized courses in African-American, Mexican-American and Native-American studies that focus on history and literature and include information about the influence of a particular ethnic group.

For example, in the Mexican-American Studies program, an American history course explores the role of Hispanics in the Vietnam War, and a literature course emphasizes Latino authors.

Horne, a Republican running for attorney general, said the program promotes "ethnic chauvinism" and racial resentment toward whites while segregating students by race. He's been trying to restrict it ever since he learned that Hispanic civil rights activist Dolores Huerta told students in 2006 that "Republicans hate Latinos."

District officials said the program doesn't promote resentment, and they believe it would comply with the new law.

The measure doesn't prohibit classes that teach about the history of a particular ethnic group, as long as the course is open to all students and doesn't promote ethnic solidarity or resentment.

About 1,500 students at six high schools are enrolled in the Tucson district's program. Elementary and middle school students also are exposed to the ethnic studies curriculum. The district is 56 percent Hispanic, with nearly 31,000 Latino students.

Sean Arce, director of the district's Mexican-American Studies program, said last month that students perform better in school if they see in the curriculum people who look like them.

"It's a highly engaging program that we have, and it's unfortunate that the state Legislature would go so far as to censor these classes," he said.

Six UN human rights experts released a statement earlier Tuesday saying all people have the right to learn about their own cultural and linguistic heritage, they said.

Brewer spokesman Paul Senseman didn't directly address the UN criticism, but said Brewer supports the bill's goal.

"The governor believes ... public school students should be taught to treat and value each other as individuals and not be taught to resent or hate other races or classes of people," Senseman said.

Arce could not immediately be reached after Brewer signed the bill late Tuesday.


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Are we taking being PC a bit too far?

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RE: Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer does it again. - 5/12/2010 8:05:16 AM   
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RE: Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer does it again. - 5/12/2010 8:08:44 AM   
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What a twat.

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RE: Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer does it again. - 5/12/2010 8:11:20 AM   
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Can she really be this dense, or is she pushing buttons for a reason?

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RE: Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer does it again. - 5/12/2010 8:13:58 AM   
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Based on what I've seen, I think it's just a whole different mentality. I have got into some major political debates with my family in SW Colorado and many of their friends. There appears to be a way of thinking, and a lot of, almost purposeful ignorance, that breeds some really stupid shit. 

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RE: Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer does it again. - 5/12/2010 8:14:03 AM   
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The measure doesn't prohibit classes that teach about the history of a particular ethnic group, as long as the course is open to all students...

I don't see the problem here. Segregating students based on race was supposed to be outlawed a few decades ago in the U.S. On the surface (as I haven't researched this) this measure only furthers education of all students about other cultures rather than limiting the classes to students of of racial background similar to the subject of study. How is this school district's previous policy to allow only students of one race to participate in these classes any different than the Ann Arbor principle who had a segregated field trip?

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RE: Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer does it again. - 5/12/2010 8:19:52 AM   
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For example, in the Mexican-American Studies program, an American history course explores the role of Hispanics in the Vietnam War, and a literature course emphasizes Latino authors.

Horne, a Republican running for attorney general, said the program promotes "ethnic chauvinism" and racial resentment toward whites while segregating students by race. He's been trying to restrict it ever since he learned that Hispanic civil rights activist Dolores Huerta told students in 2006 that "Republicans hate Latinos."


Was that class, or classes like this, used to further the agenda of those teaching them?

Can the new law be twisted to prevent any class such as these from being offered?

The measure signed Tuesday prohibits classes that advocate ethnic solidarity, that are designed primarily for students of a particular race or that promote resentment toward a certain ethnic group.

Advocate ethnic solidarity....
Designed for students of a particular race...
Promote resentment toward a certain ethnic group...

That leaves an extremely narrow field of possibilities for teaching such a class.

When will women's studies be targeted?

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RE: Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer does it again. - 5/12/2010 8:23:35 AM   
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You people are nutts. There is only supposed to be one ethnicity in this country, and that is American. Unfortunately, the multiculturalists want every group to speak their own language, learn their own history even if it's from another country, and eventually implement their own Justice system, such as Sharia Law. When we defeated the nazi's in Europe, the French said "here come the Americans." They didn't say here come the latino's, indians, blacks, and whites.

What you apparently are unable to comprehend is that a common language unites people, different languages divide. A common flag unites people, different flags divide. How hard is that to comprehend? These are taxpayer dollars that are being used to divide Americans and Jan Brewer is a true American who realizes that this country became a superpower based on capitalism, and the melting pot concept.

We already have 10 million illegal aliens who have no loyalty to this country, and 10 million muslims who have no loyalty to this country. They are only here for the welfare, or to take us over or destroy us. Anyone can see that.

The most amazing part about all this is that you believe in discriminating against your own citizens by requiring them to learn a foreign language in order to get a job in their own country, and learn another countries history. You people are insane.

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RE: Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer does it again. - 5/12/2010 8:24:57 AM   
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Ooooohhhhhhhh Aaaaaaaaanulllld, you little charmer you!

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RE: Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer does it again. - 5/12/2010 8:25:35 AM   
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I agree with the govr.

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RE: Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer does it again. - 5/12/2010 8:26:51 AM   
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quote:

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For example, in the Mexican-American Studies program, an American history course explores the role of Hispanics in the Vietnam War, and a literature course emphasizes Latino authors.

Horne, a Republican running for attorney general, said the program promotes "ethnic chauvinism" and racial resentment toward whites while segregating students by race. He's been trying to restrict it ever since he learned that Hispanic civil rights activist Dolores Huerta told students in 2006 that "Republicans hate Latinos."


Was that class, or classes like this, used to further the agenda of those teaching them?

Can the new law be twisted to prevent any class such as these from being offered?

The measure signed Tuesday prohibits classes that advocate ethnic solidarity, that are designed primarily for students of a particular race or that promote resentment toward a certain ethnic group.

Advocate ethnic solidarity....
Designed for students of a particular race...
Promote resentment toward a certain ethnic group...

That leaves an extremely narrow field of possibilities for teaching such a class.

When will women's studies be targeted?


I haven't researched it, but at least inn my college women's studies classes aren't just limited to females attending the class.

What's sticking out to me is that by segregating a class to a particular race of students, you do create ethnicity based resentment. You're saying that "this information isn't important to anybody but you...and we're not going to bother other students with this information." or to all the other students, "you're not good enough to deserve this information".

The school district itself says that it believes that it's classes already conform to the new measure.

The measure as stated in the article above really only has one solid definition that will hold up in any court of law...that whole bit about not segregating the classes. The rest is up to situational interpretation and is pretty flimsy.

Again, I don't see a problem with making an African-American, Mexican-American, etc cultures class available to students of all races instead of segregating the classes based upon race.

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RE: Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer does it again. - 5/12/2010 8:29:18 AM   
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You are also so insane, that you believe the law requiring law enforcement to enquire about their legal status, then arrest them will result in racial profiling, and people being stopped randomly to be asked their status.

Use your common sense if you have any left. The cops aren't going to be stopping people randomly. However, if they stop you or come into contact with you during the course of their duties, then obviously they have a taken an oath to uphold the law and must investigate your legal status, and uphold both federal and state law.

By the way, federal law is more severe than their state law, so how can that be unconstitutional? It is and always has been a $5,000 fine and deportation for crossing the border illegally.

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RE: Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer does it again. - 5/12/2010 8:29:42 AM   
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Ya know that hard part about defending this type of legislation is when individuals like cuckoldmepls start talking. You people make it extremely difficult for me to use the valid points of support for such a measure when you spout off about things that have no direct relationship to the article at hand.

Kindly, please stay on topic and address the article and measure or shut up because you're hurting my case.

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RE: Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer does it again. - 5/12/2010 8:31:28 AM   
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Unfortunately, the multiculturalists want every group to ... eventually implement their own Justice system, such as Sharia Law.


You really are an incredible idiot.


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RE: Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer does it again. - 5/12/2010 8:35:39 AM   
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What is amazing is the stacking of shit in your post.

Who is tazzy or anyone else here requiring to learn a second language? Who is requiring them to learn another countries history except in the overall scheme of the world? 

What sort of destruction do these folks have planned, Kreskin?  Lay it out for us.

Where are we implementing sharia law in the states?  who has spoken for its implementation here specifically? 

Perhaps you can explain the (at least obvious to you) cases in which there have been great divides in a country due to language, how about you start with say----china? their dialects are so different as to be separate language.  Or how about you explain why as 'an english speaking people' gathered together by that great corrosion of the 'queen's english'  we have such words as latino, abalone, alligator, Apache, chocolate,  North, South, East, West, knee, knob, slogan, bog, trousers and  so on; ad infinitum? 

Do you ever get anything right at all?

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RE: Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer does it again. - 5/12/2010 8:44:27 AM   
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RE: Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer does it again. - 5/12/2010 8:46:32 AM   
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RE: Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer does it again. - 5/12/2010 8:47:37 AM   
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If you ask me (and I'm not trying to sound sarcastic...although I do love sarcasm...but in this case its true).  It seems we are condoning the actions and days of the wild wild west.  First the new AZ law and people refusing to say it would lead to racialism.  Now this.  And yes, while it may be opened to all students, it will promote prejudice and resentment naturally.  What frightens me is we're going backwards...and with all these 'cuck's' raving about it with gusto...we're going backwards in proud fashion.  While it is amazing, somehow it doesn't surprise me.  Sadly.

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RE: Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer does it again. - 5/12/2010 9:32:18 AM   
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Can she really be this dense, or is she pushing buttons for a reason?



Both. She is dense, and it's because she is dense that she's deliberately pushing buttons to alienate a certain segment of the population, in order to lick the arses of that segment of the population that she wants to vote for her.





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RE: Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer does it again. - 5/12/2010 9:35:00 AM   
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