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thompsonx -> RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal (5/19/2010 8:33:20 AM)
quote: I also wonder that if those jobs could not be filled, perhaps they would pay more? Not as long as there are H 1B visas

thompsonx -> RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal (5/19/2010 8:38:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jeffff There is human suffering everywhere. At some point a line has to be drawn. How bout we draw that line on the employers. $10,000 fine and/or 5 years federal pen for each illegal. That is the curent law. If someone has dozens of illegals that would constitute an "on going criminal enterprise". This would bring the RICO statutes into play which means the government would own enough shit to end the depression.

thompsonx -> RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal (5/19/2010 8:44:02 AM)
quote: It is not the job of the US to be parent to every country. Then why every war since the revolution? We have enough problems at home without opening our arms to embrace any and all who wish to enter. Now, why is it everyone wants to paint a mexican face on illegal immigration? Because not to would be less than honest Why are you advocating the practice of rewarding criminals? You are advocationg the practice of rewarding criminals when you focus your anger on the symptom instead of the cause. If one takes the totality of your post on this subjet it is clear that the thrust of your effort is to curb illegal immigration by focusing on the illegal who commits a misdemeanor while only giving passing lip service to the felony commited by the employer.

subtee -> RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal (5/19/2010 9:33:57 AM)
Travel Arizona!

thompsonx -> RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal (5/19/2010 10:21:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subtee Travel Arizona! You are a little fucking instigator...ain'tcha[;)]

subtee -> RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal (5/19/2010 10:32:16 AM)
[sm=angel.gif] if by instigator you mean sweet tee?

Loki45 -> RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal (5/19/2010 4:13:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk Your right. Not taking proper responsibility. Have it your way. Lets post some troops at the border. Fire on movement at the border. Happy now? Oh now we don't need to do that. We can set up automated sentry guns. Why waste the man power?

domiguy -> RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal (5/19/2010 4:28:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Loki45 quote: ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk Your right. Not taking proper responsibility. Have it your way. Lets post some troops at the border. Fire on movement at the border. Happy now? Oh now we don't need to do that. We can set up automated sentry guns. Why waste the man power? Jobs? Or the irony of hiring illegals to fire upon their fellow country men.

Loki45 -> RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal (5/19/2010 4:33:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy Jobs? Or the irony of hiring illegals to fire upon their fellow country men. I don't know if you've noticed, but our troops are already a bit busy. They don't need to be put down in the asscrack of the country being shot at by mexican drug dealers. All we need is some automated sentry machine guns programmed to fire on anything bigger than a desert rabbit or fox and we're all set.

thishereboi -> RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal (5/19/2010 5:10:52 PM)
Promises, promises[8D]

zephyroftheNorth -> RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal (5/19/2010 5:16:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy Jeffff is nicer than I am. But boi, I would still bang you, then it's off to the dumpster. That dumpster must be getting kinda full and stinky. Maybe it's time to move on to another one?

domiguy -> RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal (5/19/2010 5:22:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Loki45 quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy Jobs? Or the irony of hiring illegals to fire upon their fellow country men. I don't know if you've noticed, but our troops are already a bit busy. They don't need to be put down in the asscrack of the country being shot at by mexican drug dealers. All we need is some automated sentry machine guns programmed to fire on anything bigger than a desert rabbit or fox and we're all set. I don't know if you noticed out troops got suckered into being in the asscrack of Iraq getting shot at by those in the middle of a civil war. Why would you want to kill defenseless animals? You are really a sick fuck.

thishereboi -> RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal (5/19/2010 5:28:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: ORIGINAL: Louve00 You're right, it doesn't take away from the human pain and suffering. It's not right to turn a blind eye to it. But it hurts and effects our economy in a negative way. No it does not...The illegals pay more in taxes than they derive in benifits. So it's ok to keep exploiting them because the state is getting a little extra for each illegal?

Elisabella -> RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal (5/19/2010 5:31:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi So it's ok to keep exploiting them because the state is getting a little extra for each illegal? Actually if it were conclusively shown that illegal immigration boosted the US economy and made the US a stronger nation as a whole, then yeah, that'd probably be the best reason to turn a blind eye to it.

Loki45 -> RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal (5/19/2010 5:36:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy I don't know if you noticed out troops got suckered into being in the asscrack of Iraq getting shot at by those in the middle of a civil war. Our troops followed orders, they didn't get "suckered" into anything. quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy You are really a sick fuck. Considering posts I've seen you make, this statement is hilarious coming from you. Besides, there are very few animals larger than a fox in those regions. Therefore, I'm only talking about shooting the criminals trying to sneak in ....and only the first few. Once word gets out...people will stop trying because it's not worth it.

thompsonx -> RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal (5/20/2010 10:22:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: ORIGINAL: Louve00 You're right, it doesn't take away from the human pain and suffering. It's not right to turn a blind eye to it. But it hurts and effects our economy in a negative way. No it does not...The illegals pay more in taxes than they derive in benifits. So it's ok to keep exploiting them because the state is getting a little extra for each illegal? I have explained this to you a few times but I will try one more time. I am not in favor of illegal immigration. Illegal immigrants put more into the tax system than they get out. Chasing down and transporting millions of illegal aliens who have only committed a misdemeanor is less productive than arresting, fining, incarcerating and expropriating the felons who employ them. There are three things that deter a person from committing a crime. 1. Severity of punishment if caught. 2. Possibility of getting caught. 3. Chances of actually being punished. Only the two of the three reasons reason for not committing the crime is present. If the third were there would be no jobs for illegal aliens. Those who carp on the symptom and not the cause; who constantly repeat the made up bullshit stories of how the illegals are sucking the system dry is counterproductive to the main argument and the falsity of the statement calls for the examination of the credibility of the speaker. Now is there some part of that that justifies your question?

thompsonx -> RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal (5/20/2010 10:26:08 AM)
quote: All we need is some automated sentry machine guns programmed to fire on anything bigger than a desert rabbit or fox and we're all set. Have you a clue how easy that would be to neutralize? I have some 40 year old knowledge about camp david security...there is a reason they were not used there. Oh yes they were available.

rulemylife -> RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal (5/20/2010 10:34:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Elisabella quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi So it's ok to keep exploiting them because the state is getting a little extra for each illegal? Actually if it were conclusively shown that illegal immigration boosted the US economy and made the US a stronger nation as a whole, then yeah, that'd probably be the best reason to turn a blind eye to it. So you are totally against illegal immigrants because, after all, it is illegal. Unless it can be proven that we can enrich ourselves by exploiting illegal immigrants. Capitalism at its finest.

Sanity -> RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal (5/20/2010 11:26:11 AM)
FR - The borders are way too porous: quote: Rape suspect deported 4 times by Associated Press KTVB.COM Posted on May 19, 2010 at 3:48 PM EDMONDS, Wash. – The man accused of raping a woman behind an Edmonds grocery store has been deported at least four times in the past 15 years, reports KIRO Radio. An officer responding to a woman's cry for help Sunday night found 46-year-old Jose Madrigal on top of the woman and arrested him. According to court documents, the woman told police that Madrigal had followed her and offered her $35 for sex, but she said no. She said Madrigal then forced her into the bushes on the north side of the store and raped her. Full story here Every nation has borders, and most nations enforce their immigration laws. Why not us?

thishereboi -> RE: AZ, All Stars, & Looking Illegal (5/20/2010 2:04:14 PM)
quote: Now is there some part of that that justifies your question? Well, you stated that you would go after the companies hiring illegals, so I would have to guess and say your answer is no. So yes you answered it, not sure what you mean by justifying it though.

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