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RE: If you believe in God how do You fit being a Femdom... - 5/17/2010 10:00:56 AM

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I am not religious in the sense that I don't follow one set of beliefs, but I have never really thought of God as a man, or a woman really, I see it as being both at the same time, even the ionic images of good with a long gray beard and white coat have something feminine and also, come to think of it, a little greek about it. Also watching Dogma opened my eyes to the idea of authorship of the actual stories.

Anyways as I am not religious answering the op may be a little pointless but I could see how any faith would be empowering to a person, also enable a greater sense of self security.

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RE: If you believe in God how do You fit being a Femdom... - 5/17/2010 10:52:29 AM

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Useful information. Thank you.

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RE: If you believe in God how do You fit being a Femdom... - 5/17/2010 10:54:46 AM

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God is the ocean and I am a jellyfish. There is no conflict.

Good simile. Well spoken!

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RE: If you believe in God how do You fit being a Femdom... - 5/17/2010 10:56:57 AM

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Kevin's professions are merely impromptu shields for his maladapted and poisonous ego V. It will only be when he realises the nature of this ego and destroys it that he shall have opportunity to develop a new one, fit to be sacrified to his Christ.

It is for his domme to deal with and do away with his ego - if he is a genuine natural slave.

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RE: If you believe in God how do You fit being a Femdom... - 5/17/2010 12:05:59 PM

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Hmm, I would think that a god by definition would be whatever it wanted to be.

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RE: If you believe in God how do You fit being a Femdom... - 5/17/2010 12:13:43 PM

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ORIGINAL: Saint
Hmm, I would think that a god by definition would be whatever it wanted to be.

No. The Divine, who or which is 'outside' our universe, cannot interfere in affairs within our universe. Whereas the pagan gods and their avatars are more subject to fate than ordinary humans.

The way you define a god is not in accord with reality.

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RE: If you believe in God how do You fit being a Femdom... - 5/17/2010 12:35:10 PM

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Hmm, I would think that a god by definition would be whatever it wanted to be.

No. The Divine, who or which is 'outside' our universe, cannot interfere in affairs within our universe. Whereas the pagan gods and their avatars are more subject to fate than ordinary humans.

The way you define a god is not in accord with reality.

How did you come to this rather interesting conclusion? Obviously then the 'divine' or what have you would have had to have broken the rule of non-interference in our universe to somehow spread this information. Otherwise how else did it get known? So all that being said, how did you come to that particular conclusion that debunks itself?

The same for pagan gods and their avatars. How do you reach these conclusions? Have you met any pagan gods or their avatars? Have they spoken to you and shared this insight somehow into their existence?

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RE: If you believe in God how do You fit being a Femdom... - 5/17/2010 1:12:12 PM

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Christianity tells us he is male.

Where? In case you didn't know when the gender of the subject is unknown it is grammatically proper to use the masculine pronoun.

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RE: If you believe in God how do You fit being a Femdom... - 5/17/2010 1:13:16 PM

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Be careful now Kevin. You run the risk of having your stream of conciousness evaporated at a stroke, revealing the muddy bed beneath for all to behold.

Seek the well spring of your thoughts, remove the rotting carcass laying stagnant in its pooling eddies and make of it the source of life, or be forever dammed.

In this you must emulate your Christ and thereby become Him.
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I think you Ladies have sent kevin well along the road to Golgotha in this thread, Lady Ellen.

Kevin's professions are merely impromptu shields for his maladapted and poisonous ego V. It will only be when he realises the nature of this ego and destroys it that he shall have opportunity to develop a new one, fit to be sacrified to his Christ.

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Oh, you are ruthless, Lady Ellen. Can't say that disturbs me tho! LMAO...

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RE: If you believe in God how do You fit being a Femdom... - 5/17/2010 1:15:08 PM

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It is good that you are curious. Curiosity often is the requirement for the beginning of knowledge. May the Divine enlighten you!

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RE: If you believe in God how do You fit being a Femdom... - 5/17/2010 1:26:56 PM

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Christianity tells us he is male.
Where? In case you didn't know when the gender of the subject is unknown it is grammatically proper to use the masculine pronoun.

I really have no dog in this fight, Arpig, but here is the creed enunciated (or whatever) from the 4th Lateran Council. True that the Spirit is not identified by gender but the use of the pronoun "his" for the Father and the Son hardly seems to be a grammatical construction from the year cerca 1215. Ya think? Or is that just too yesterday

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"We firmly believe and simply confess that there is only one true God, eternal and immeasurable, almighty, unchangeable, incomprehensible and ineffable, Father, Son and holy Spirit, three persons but one absolutely simple essence, substance or nature {1} . The Father is from none, the Son from the Father alone, and the holy Spirit from both equally, eternally without beginning or end; the Father generating, the Son being born, and the holy Spirit proceeding; consubstantial and coequal, co-omnipotent and coeternal; one principle of all things, creator of all things invisible and visible, spiritual and corporeal; who by his almighty power at the beginning of time created from nothing both spiritual and corporeal creatures, that is to say angelic and earthly, and then created human beings composed as it were of both spirit and body in common. The devil and other demons were created by God naturally good, but they became evil by their own doing. Man, however, sinned at the prompting of the devil."

Now! Will someone puhleze tell me how many angels can dance on the head of a pin!

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RE: If you believe in God how do You fit being a Femdom... - 5/17/2010 1:33:21 PM

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ORIGINAL: Rule

It is good that you are curious. Curiosity often is the requirement for the beginning of knowledge. May the Divine enlighten you!

But Rule! How can the Divine enlighten Saint if it cannot interfere in affairs within our Universe?

Secondly, and seriously, is not the Divine omnipotent? What's to stop the interference of an omnipotent force?

Inquiring minds want to know, Yanno.

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RE: If you believe in God how do You fit being a Femdom... - 5/17/2010 1:46:21 PM

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Now! Will someone puhleze tell me how many angels can dance on the head of a pin!

At least eight hundred. 432000 also is a possibility.

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RE: If you believe in God how do You fit being a Femdom... - 5/17/2010 1:47:55 PM

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It is good that you are curious. Curiosity often is the requirement for the beginning of knowledge. May the Divine enlighten you!

But Rule! How can the Divine enlighten Saint if it cannot interfere in affairs within our Universe?

Secondly, and seriously, is not the Divine omnipotent? What's to stop the interference of an omnipotent force?

Inquiring minds want to know, Yanno.

Considering that you never answer my questions, please explain to me why I ought to oblige you in answering yours?

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RE: If you believe in God how do You fit being a Femdom... - 5/17/2010 1:50:24 PM

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"We firmly believe and simply confess that there is only one true God,..."

Only ONE??? Ok, so, for arguments sake, we allow a limited pantheon, but you note that there's no specific exclusion of a GODDESS in the creed.?? POINT!
Then there's the immediate presumption that the diety-concept HAS to be Judeo-Christian. There being MANY valid diety-concepts, there is no outright exclusion of female-dominance. POINT!!
And then there's the Mariast traditions from the Catholic church that drove the medieval knights to go to their chivalric extremes, doing any and every thing possible out of deference to a LADY. POINT!!!

That's three from mid-court, nothing but net, at the buzzer, the separation of church and erotic state STANDS!!!!

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RE: If you believe in God how do You fit being a Femdom... - 5/17/2010 1:53:10 PM

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ORIGINAL: Rule

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ORIGINAL: Rule
It is good that you are curious. Curiosity often is the requirement for the beginning of knowledge. May the Divine enlighten you!

But Rule! How can the Divine enlighten Saint if it cannot interfere in affairs within our Universe?

Secondly, and seriously, is not the Divine omnipotent? What's to stop the interference of an omnipotent force?

Inquiring minds want to know, Yanno.

Considering that you never answer my questions, please explain to me why I ought to oblige you in answering yours?

Which question(s) would you like me to answer, Rule?

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RE: If you believe in God how do You fit being a Femdom... - 5/17/2010 1:55:39 PM

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Consult the Divine and it may enlighten you as to the questions you never answered and conveniently forgot about.

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RE: If you believe in God how do You fit being a Femdom... - 5/17/2010 1:57:29 PM

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Sweetness, I mean that people like yourself who believe that God is definately male when there is no evidence to suggest he is

Well if you want to go down that road, there is no definitive proof God exists either.

But what if God is in the image of Kevin?

Stella, that is a prospect too scary to imagine.

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RE: If you believe in God how do You fit being a Femdom... - 5/17/2010 2:13:28 PM

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There are a lot of doubting Thomases out there. Thats ok. Many will believe when they see him in the flesh, see the wounds in the side and in his feet. Christ has a message for all those. He simply said to Thomas when Thomas said that he would not believe unless he actually saw Christ in the flesh, Thomas you believe because you have seen, happy are those who have not seen and yet believe. There are millions around the world in this boat who have not seen but yet believe, there are also doubting Thomases, agnostics and atheists. Faith is tough even if I told you where I saw it you might not believe me and thats ok because its very difficult to believe in something You have not seen. Even Christ recognised this himself. By the way the message Happy are those who have not seen and yet believe is a quote from the Gospel
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Hell's bells, Kevin, don't you know what you're playing with?

Saint Augustine said, 'Faith is the belief in that which one cannot see. The eventual reward of faith is to see what one believes.'

Fine. But that doesn't just apply to Christianity, it applies to every insane, destructive belief that's ever existed. You absolutely have faith in the belief that the world's ills are all down to Jews - you'll see it, have the evidence for it, eventually.

You want an ability to choose between which is the true thing to believe, and which is the insanity? There's only one thing that enables you to do that - it's called reason.

Reason, by the way, can never *disprove* the existence of *anything*. Karl Popper showed that. You could never, for instance, ever disprove my belief that God is, in fact, a large plate of spaghetti with meatballs in a rich tomato sauce. Not even the Pope and all his cardinals could disprove that.

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RE: If you believe in God how do You fit being a Femdom... - 5/17/2010 2:19:54 PM

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"We firmly believe and simply confess that there is only one true God,..."

Only ONE??? Ok, so, for arguments sake, we allow a limited pantheon, but you note that there's no specific exclusion of a GODDESS in the creed.?? POINT!

Well, no William, I said nothing about a Goddess exclusion in the Creed. So, wtf?

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Then there's the immediate presumption that the diety-concept HAS to be Judeo-Christian. There being MANY valid diety-concepts, there is no outright exclusion of female-dominance. POINT!!

That's true. i never denied it. I was merely replying to Arpig's point about proper use of pronouns. Sorry, you got all in a lather about it.

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And then there's the Mariast traditions from the Catholic church that drove the medieval knights to go to their chivalric extremes, doing any and every thing possible out of deference to a LADY. POINT!!!

The Medieval knights were also motivated by promises of Paradise and dreams of riches to be plundered, I would guess. Mary was never elevated to a Goddess. She never stood as an equal to Jesus. She was perceived as an intercessionist: "Mary means Star of the sea, for as mariners are guided to port by the ocean star, so Christians attain to glory through Mary's maternal intercession." [St. Thomas Aquinas +1274]

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That's three from mid-court, nothing but net, at the buzzer, the separation of church and erotic state STANDS!!!!

William

You are playing a one man game on an empty court I'm afraid. But have fun

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