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eyesopened -> RE: Which religious beliefs still influence you? (5/21/2010 11:03:45 AM)
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ORIGINAL: GotSteel
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ORIGINAL: eyesopened
Please provide the proof in either Jewish or Christian doctrine or scripture where either religion claims moral tenets did not exist prior to the giving of The Law at Mt Sinai. *sigh* I'll save you some time. There isn't any.
That's not at all what I was arguing, nice try changing my position. It is an interesting idea though, I'll look into it.
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ORIGINAL: eyesopened
If an idea is public domain then it cannot be plagiarized as you claim.
Fraudulently claiming ownership of an idea that is public domain is illegal.
"(c) Fraudulent Copyright Notice. — Any person who, with fraudulent intent, places on any article a notice of copyright or words of the same purport that such person knows to be false, or who, with fraudulent intent, publicly distributes or imports for public distribution any article bearing such notice or words that such person knows to be false, shall be fined not more than $2,500." http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap5.html#506
Okay..... Then prove to me that Christianity or Judism has claimed sole ownership of moral tenets and even more specifically did so "with fraudulent intent, placed on any article a notice of copyright or words of the same purport that such person knows to be false, or who, with fraudulent intent, publicly distributes or imports for public distribution any article bearing such notice or words that such person knows to be false"
Look, Firm made an error in alluding to moral tenets being religious beliefs. It was an error. You made an error in saying "Christianity plagiarized those, ... Yahweh stealing credit for other peoples work is really common.
... Yahweh's followers want to steal credit on his behalf for everything under (and including) the sun, it's completely undeserved." Those are harsh words. The United States adopted most of the ideals in the Consitution from previous governments and civilizations and didn't steal them. Many religions adopt identical moral tenets as secular populations without claiming they own them There is nothing in Jewish or Christian doctrine where moral tenets are claimed as being owned by the followers of Yahweh.
If you've read anything I've written you would know I am hardly a fan of religion. So I do not like when people try to tell me there is no morality without god. I also do not like it when people suggest that all concepts of god equal some kind of Cosmic Boogie Man. (not pointing a finger at anyone, just saying it's something I've experienced with a few folks during my travels on this planet).
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