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tazzygirl -> RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial (5/22/2010 7:47:41 PM)

Nope. There is one other way. Too bad you cant think outside of that little box you live in.




Real0ne -> RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial (5/22/2010 7:48:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

It doesnt need to proclaim him the son of two US citizens. The fact that it proclaims him born in Hawaii is enough to satisfy the constitutional requirement to be a natural born citizen.


Tazzy, stop being so damn sneaky and pointing out the obvious. It isn`t fair on Jim. [;)]


again without the doctors affidavit its worthless.  thats nubmer one you still have the problem of the code back then and those rules being followed at that time.




tazzygirl -> RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial (5/22/2010 7:49:16 PM)

LOL

Im a labor and delivery nurse. I do believe i would know what is legal evidence in this country for birth aand what isnt.




Real0ne -> RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial (5/22/2010 7:49:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Nope. There is one other way. Too bad you cant think outside of that little box you live in.



I dont remember the last time I seen an inside of a box but I am all ears. 




Real0ne -> RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial (5/22/2010 7:50:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

LOL

Im a labor and delivery nurse. I do believe i would know what is legal evidence in this country for birth aand what isnt.


you talking about affidavits from 2 witnesses?

arent to many ways you can make a legitimate public record you know.







Real0ne -> RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial (5/22/2010 7:56:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

"thoroughly disproven "

Nope. Get it ? Shall we try this again ? Or are you just too dense to grasp the concept that I do not accept the same "proof" you do ? What is wrong with your comprehension that makes you ignorant of that fact ?

T



ken and ron likes to play on the fraud side of the law, not the truth side.

no "strict forensic substantial evidence" is required.

they said so, so its gotta be twu is fine for them.  No need to dig deeper to discover if its real. 







tazzygirl -> RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial (5/22/2010 8:08:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

LOL

Im a labor and delivery nurse. I do believe i would know what is legal evidence in this country for birth aand what isnt.


you talking about affidavits from 2 witnesses?

arent to many ways you can make a legitimate public record you know.



Since you arent too familiar, allow me to inform.

Nurses notes are just as much part of the medical file as Physician's notes, just as legally binding, and just as legally required.

Each Labor and Delivery unit is required to keep a record of live births. I remember working at Conway Hospital in SC in that L&D unit. Included in its record of live births is a famous game show personality. Included in that record, as in all live birth records kept on the unti, was the name, sex, race, apgar score, medications given during delivery, complications, time admitted to the nursery, pediatrician assigned, and a tiny column left for the baby's legal name before discharge. No lines are allowed to be skipped, no white out may be used. Any errors result in a single line drawn through the entire entry and an immediate correction entry beneath that is made. These are large ledgers and depending on the size of the unit and number of deliveries, they can be used on the unit for years before being completely filled out. At which time they are shelved within the nursery and a new one began.

This record is admissable in courts as proof of a live birth.




TheHeretic -> RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial (5/22/2010 8:12:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne


I dont remember the last time I seen an inside of a box but I am all ears. 




Maybe save all the conspiracy stuff until after the first date?




Real0ne -> RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial (5/22/2010 8:15:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

LOL

Im a labor and delivery nurse. I do believe i would know what is legal evidence in this country for birth aand what isnt.


you talking about affidavits from 2 witnesses?

arent to many ways you can make a legitimate public record you know.



Since you arent too familiar, allow me to inform.

Nurses notes are just as much part of the medical file as Physician's notes, just as legally binding, and just as legally required.

Each Labor and Delivery unit is required to keep a record of live births. I remember working at Conway Hospital in SC in that L&D unit. Included in its record of live births is a famous game show personality. Included in that record, as in all live birth records kept on the unti, was the name, sex, race, apgar score, medications given during delivery, complications, time admitted to the nursery, pediatrician assigned, and a tiny column left for the baby's legal name before discharge. No lines are allowed to be skipped, no white out may be used. Any errors result in a single line drawn through the entire entry and an immediate correction entry beneath that is made. These are large ledgers and depending on the size of the unit and number of deliveries, they can be used on the unit for years before being completely filled out. At which time they are shelved within the nursery and a new one began.

This record is admissable in courts as proof of a live birth.


Thats an interesting point.

First what part of the world are you from so I know what venue we are in here?

Are you saying that a nurses notes stand on there own? 

I would be surprised.  

SOP is 2, so if we have a dead mother for instance I would not think your notes would stand on their own for the public record.  Add the mothers sig to it now it should be good.

What jurisdiction are you in?







realcoolhand -> RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial (5/22/2010 8:23:54 PM)

You talk a lot of shit, dummy.




Real0ne -> RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial (5/22/2010 8:27:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne


I dont remember the last time I seen an inside of a box but I am all ears. 




Maybe save all the conspiracy stuff until after the first date?



sorry rich thats what I do.  research. 

I wont even go there with this crowd, but I could show you sections of the us code where one sentence applies to 3 different jurisdictions severally and individually.  (including sovereigns)

In fact I will give you a real simple one;

Go to the gov office styles manual 1922 I think and you can read how a sovereign is supposed to be written in text.

They have yales best writing this stuff where the min iq's start at 160 and what is the rule?

Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

Where does that leave people who can sense right and wrong and know when they are getting fucked but do not have that 160+ iq to take them to task?

Add that to the average iq in america is 80 to 100 and slipping fast?

Some of the stuff I post is fairly esoteric and as a rule only people who have done substantial research in the same areas will understand it.

It does not make me better than anyone else but I am way better researched with way better resources.  Many points of which requires one to go down to the law library because its not on the net.  (but like everything else coming to a theater near you soon!)


the idea of adding the word theory to any position not sanctioned by the government to throw our ADD society off the trail was frankly in my opinion a stroke of genius on who ever came up with it.






tazzygirl -> RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial (5/22/2010 8:30:17 PM)

US. Its plainly written on my profile.

A Doctor can get into huge legal trouble for ripping up nurses notes. Its part of the medical record, just like his notes.

Nurses are often called in to testify in court proceedings. Part of what helps us remember issues in the past is those notes we take such care in filling out. Nurses are just as professional as Physicians. We have our own governing board, our own liability insurance, and we are even held respinsible if a Physician screws up and orders a wrong med or dosage and we give it.

Now, why would you believe its so far fetched to think our notes cannot stand on their own?




Real0ne -> RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial (5/22/2010 8:43:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

US. Its plainly written on my profile.

A Doctor can get into huge legal trouble for ripping up nurses notes. Its part of the medical record, just like his notes.

Nurses are often called in to testify in court proceedings. Part of what helps us remember issues in the past is those notes we take such care in filling out. Nurses are just as professional as Physicians. We have our own governing board, our own liability insurance, and we are even held respinsible if a Physician screws up and orders a wrong med or dosage and we give it.

Now, why would you believe its so far fetched to think our notes cannot stand on their own?



First vitals is not an area that I have been personally involved in nor have I dug into that hairy fine line of what legal and what is not in the vitals areas as pertaining to this matter, nor do I have any desire too frankly so I dont plan on going to the library on the matter.  However from other experience unless there is a corroborating witness even for a doctor (such as the mothers signature somewhere I do not see how his signature alone could make the record, or yours unless you are in a position of notary officer.  That and I asked what venue because it changes state to state as well and the US is 10 square miles and its territories etc etc and by treaty and what not.

So are you stating that you have gone to court and I mean with an elected judge, and have gotten a favorable decision based solely on your notes?  No other basis in fact?






tazzygirl -> RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial (5/22/2010 8:55:14 PM)

Nope. Neither would a Physician based soley upon his notes.

An admission record is just that, a record of admissions. No one would dispute a hospitals admission secretary without proof to the contrary.

The record would not be contestable if all the requirements are met. In order for those notes, the L&D notes of live birth, to be contested, it would have to be proven that on August 4, 1961, the full nursing staffon duty at the time and those nurses who followed until discharge of the baby, were conspiring with each other to commit an act of medical fraud. At which time, it would also have to be proven that insurance fraud was committed, if insurance payments were accepted. Also that the hospital medical records and admission department also committed and were in conspiracy with the nursing staff to committ major medical fraud.

The L&D log of live births is just another in a paper trail. Yet, so tightly is it constructed that fraud, especially years and years later, is impossible.




rulemylife -> RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial (5/22/2010 9:04:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Nope. There is one other way. Too bad you cant think outside of that little box you live in.



I dont remember the last time I seen an inside of a box but I am all ears. 



I thought you were all hair.






housesub4you -> RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial (5/22/2010 9:04:29 PM)

If you really cared to find the truth, you would find the whole thing that created this was an admitted mistake by a reporter.  He listed the wrong hospital in his article (even though later corrected, no one cares) hence all the BS rumors about this.

So even though the State of Hawaii has resolved the issue, gop die hard's still dig, funny though, John McCain has no US birth cert but no one follows that story.   Or what about Jendal, he is not using his birth name "Bobby" is not on his birth certificate, hell if Jendal went to AZ he could be deported as his papers have no mention of "bobby"




rulemylife -> RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial (5/22/2010 9:13:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne


sorry rich thats what I do.  research. 

I wont even go there with this crowd, but I could show you sections of the us code where one sentence applies to 3 different jurisdictions severally and individually.  (including sovereigns)

In fact I will give you a real simple one;

Go to the gov office styles manual 1922 I think and you can read how a sovereign is supposed to be written in text.

They have yales best writing this stuff where the min iq's start at 160 and what is the rule?

Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

Where does that leave people who can sense right and wrong and know when they are getting fucked but do not have that 160+ iq to take them to task?

Add that to the average iq in america is 80 to 100 and slipping fast?

Some of the stuff I post is fairly esoteric and as a rule only people who have done substantial research in the same areas will understand it.

It does not make me better than anyone else but I am way better researched with way better resources.  Many points of which requires one to go down to the law library because its not on the net.  (but like everything else coming to a theater near you soon!)



What you know about the law is little to nothing.

Your research is you coming up with inane theories and then trying to justify them.




Real0ne -> RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial (5/22/2010 10:06:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne


sorry rich thats what I do.  research. 

I wont even go there with this crowd, but I could show you sections of the us code where one sentence applies to 3 different jurisdictions severally and individually.  (including sovereigns)

In fact I will give you a real simple one;

Go to the gov office styles manual 1922 I think and you can read how a sovereign is supposed to be written in text.

They have yales best writing this stuff where the min iq's start at 160 and what is the rule?

Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

Where does that leave people who can sense right and wrong and know when they are getting fucked but do not have that 160+ iq to take them to task?

Add that to the average iq in america is 80 to 100 and slipping fast?

Some of the stuff I post is fairly esoteric and as a rule only people who have done substantial research in the same areas will understand it.

It does not make me better than anyone else but I am way better researched with way better resources.  Many points of which requires one to go down to the law library because its not on the net.  (but like everything else coming to a theater near you soon!)



What you know about the law is little to nothing.

Your research is you coming up with inane theories and then trying to justify them.



I didnt know you are a member of the retarded ADD society that is incapable of distinguishing a theory from fact.   At least you have lots of company. 




Real0ne -> RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial (5/22/2010 10:08:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: housesub4you

If you really cared to find the truth, you would find the whole thing that created this was an admitted mistake by a reporter.  He listed the wrong hospital in his article (even though later corrected, no one cares) hence all the BS rumors about this.

So even though the State of Hawaii has resolved the issue, gop die hard's still dig, funny though, John McCain has no US birth cert but no one follows that story.   Or what about Jendal, he is not using his birth name "Bobby" is not on his birth certificate, hell if Jendal went to AZ he could be deported as his papers have no mention of "bobby"




It does not matter who initiated it.

It is a requirement of law.

He is blocking everyones attempts to perform their duties to fulfill the law.

Its no longer political at that point its judicial.

Of course facts and law aint as much fun as foolish political bickering.




Real0ne -> RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial (5/22/2010 10:09:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Nope. There is one other way. Too bad you cant think outside of that little box you live in.



I dont remember the last time I seen an inside of a box but I am all ears. 



I thought you were all hair.





I shaved




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