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RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial - 5/22/2010 10:13:59 PM   
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I didnt know you are a member of the retarded ADD society that is incapable of distinguishing a theory from fact.   At least you have lots of company. 





Yeah you're right Oliver Wendell.

I forgot I was talking to such a legal genius.

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RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial - 5/22/2010 10:16:23 PM   
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Nope. Neither would a Physician based soley upon his notes.

An admission record is just that, a record of admissions. No one would dispute a hospitals admission secretary without proof to the contrary.

The record would not be contestable if all the requirements are met. In order for those notes, the L&D notes of live birth, to be contested, it would have to be proven that on August 4, 1961, the full nursing staffon duty at the time and those nurses who followed until discharge of the baby, were conspiring with each other to commit an act of medical fraud. At which time, it would also have to be proven that insurance fraud was committed, if insurance payments were accepted. Also that the hospital medical records and admission department also committed and were in conspiracy with the nursing staff to committ major medical fraud.

The L&D log of live births is just another in a paper trail. Yet, so tightly is it constructed that fraud, especially years and years later, is impossible.


well they would have to have all the scheduling records etc and that would support your log prima facia, I agree. I could see that in and of itself holding up as long as there was not a preponderance of evidence on the other side.

Now in barrys case its not all that simple but he cannot seem to come up with anything but guv records but nothing to support the creation of the guv records.  Only the rest of america has those requirements if its challenged.


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RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial - 5/22/2010 10:19:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		I went recently to get my PA ID. Lost my Ohio one, so had to use the long route. They required the same form Obama has on line... the short form of my birth certificate and my social security card, along with some type of mail with my current address.

As far as i can tell, this is the same requirement for almost every state. Why is this not good enough for Obama's proof if its good enough to prove who i am?

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RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial - 5/22/2010 10:21:51 PM   
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I didnt know you are a member of the retarded ADD society that is incapable of distinguishing a theory from fact.   At least you have lots of company. 





Yeah you're right Oliver Wendell.

I forgot I was talking to such a legal genius.




I hold my own, in fact just argued down another attorn on me and set the boy straight on friday.  (on the phone not in court), To my surprise he thanked me for adding a little excitement to his life.   They are bored with people like you and I dont blame them.





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RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial - 5/22/2010 10:25:54 PM   
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I went recently to get my PA ID. Lost my Ohio one, so had to use the long route. They required the same form Obama has on line... the short form of my birth certificate and my social security card, along with some type of mail with my current address.

As far as i can tell, this is the same requirement for almost every state. Why is this not good enough for Obama's proof if its good enough to prove who i am?


Come on.

You are not the prez and holding an office of trust and honor, and even if you were what you do does not have the impact his office does.

Comparing what you are doing with all due respect to what he is doing is not remotely in the same league.

That and if yours was challenged you would be forking out hospital records believe me.

The only reason he has not is because he has attorneys playing interference.   He most likely will be a one termer because of that.  They dont need that kind of heat and a tar baby to deal with.

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RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial - 5/22/2010 10:27:32 PM   
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How many of our elected officials do we require that much documentation from?

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RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial - 5/22/2010 10:28:55 PM   
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I hold my own, in fact just argued down another attorn on me and set the boy straight on friday.



No you don't, though I'm sure you like to believe that.

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RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial - 5/22/2010 10:31:54 PM   
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I hold my own, in fact just argued down another attorn on me and set the boy straight on friday.



No you don't, though I'm sure you like to believe that.



How many times do you need to hear it?

You have to have the ability to reason.

Thats the difference between the attorn on me's I beat and you.

You get beaten bloody and staggering and say "see I'm right! I didnt feel a thing".


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RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial - 5/22/2010 10:33:49 PM   
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Trust and honor.

How many of our elected officials do we require that much documentation from?


again its a matter of the challenge.  in law presumption stops upon the challenge


hey here is a good one for you;

a 3 notary panel can over rule a nisi pruis (lower) court judge.

people really have an incredible amount of power they are completely clueless about






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RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial - 5/22/2010 10:39:58 PM   
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http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/1409.html

I will leave you to think on this one... good night.

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RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial - 5/22/2010 10:40:44 PM   
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How many times do you need to hear it?

You have to have the ability to reason.

Thats the difference between the attorn on me's I beat and you.

You get beaten bloody and staggering and say "see I'm right! I didnt feel a thing".



A few more times I guess, preferably with someone translating because I don't speak your version of the language.

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RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial - 5/22/2010 10:48:29 PM   
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How many times do you need to hear it?

You have to have the ability to reason.

Thats the difference between the attorn on me's I beat and you.

You get beaten bloody and staggering and say "see I'm right! I didnt feel a thing".



A few more times I guess, preferably with someone translating because I don't speak your version of the language.



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RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial - 5/22/2010 10:51:56 PM   
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Here is one for you...

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/1409.html

I will leave you to think on this one... good night.



nope no can do, there have been revisions since barry was born, and I really dont want to go there because like global warming it bores me to tears when all we really need to do is the KISS and review the hospital records, and sleep well, it was a pleasure.

this is one case where the always abused occams razor applies perfectly.





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RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial - 5/22/2010 11:37:21 PM   
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Where do you think he was born? Kenya? You think his American mother is going to leave her home country to go give birth in fucking Africa? Then come back?

Was she like the Angelina Jolie prototype or do they just have better hospitals in Kenya?

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RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial - 5/22/2010 11:45:12 PM   
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Do you fucking seriously believe Obama was not born in Hawaii?

Where do you think he was born? Kenya? You think his American mother is going to leave her home country to go give birth in fucking Africa? Then come back?

Was she like the Angelina Jolie prototype or do they just have better hospitals in Kenya?



unlike you I dont know because you like so many others apparently dont give a rat ass if he is or not.  One needs to understand consequences and why certain laws exist to desire to want a full TIMELY investigation.

Thats ok though you have a right to support government fraud as much as we have the right to fight it.

I have a need to know and they are in breach of trust and the thugs are protecting him from the requirement of bringing forth the information to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt he is who he claims.

What I think does not matter, what the facts are does matter and at this point we have no facts.  Except that you seem to support the thug side of the equation.


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RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial - 5/22/2010 11:54:35 PM   
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I have a need to know and they are in breach of trust and the thugs are protecting him from the requirement of bringing forth the information to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt he is who he claims.


Okay, well what is it that has created this shadow of a doubt in your mind? Is there something specific that makes you doubt his claims or is it the same way you wouldn't really believe Obama is a man until you get a DNA test saying XY?

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RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial - 5/23/2010 12:06:46 AM   
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I have a need to know and they are in breach of trust and the thugs are protecting him from the requirement of bringing forth the information to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt he is who he claims.


Okay, well what is it that has created this shadow of a doubt in your mind? Is there something specific that makes you doubt his claims or is it the same way you wouldn't really believe Obama is a man until you get a DNA test saying XY?


whats the point of attaching a completely false premise to this?

Its simple really. 

He is fighting not to disclose what he knows damn well we have the right by trust and law to demand. 

McShitstain didnt.

Moe importanty, why do you support anyone who uses attorneys to operate outside the law and breach the public trust?




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RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial - 5/23/2010 12:42:38 AM   
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A question for the brighter Obama critics here - how long will Obama be the 44th President of the USA?

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Until 01/20/2012, unless of course some one/entity with the wherewithal has the integrity to make him prove he is eligible. Note that the Department of Hawaii Home Lands didn't accept a Hawaii "Certification of Live Birth" as prima-facie evidence of birth in Hawaii...at least it didn't until mid-2009 when it updated it's web-site...and it still requires both parents birth certificates et al documentation in addition to a "Certification of Live Birth".


Are you sure? You dont want to phone a friend?

January 20th 2012 - final answer?

Obama will no longer be the 44th President from that day?

Are you sure?

............we'll be right back, after this commercial break.

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The election will be held in 2012 (Tuesday after the first Monday of November), he will be president until January 20, 2013 ( Inauguration Day).  Is that what you are looking for? 

I will add that the period of time between election and inauguration is considered a "lame duck" time.  Also people tend to think of the new presidency as happening once all of the election results are in (and sometimes before that.)  So it is understandable where the 2012 timetable comes in.  After all, we do not need the pony express to bring us the news anymore, which is why there was a nearly 3 month wait between the election and inauguration in the first place.  (That and the whole electoral college thing.)

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RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial - 5/23/2010 1:45:04 AM   
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This whole thread should be deleted. Not locked, but completely fucking erased. It is beneath me or anyone I would welcome into my home or organisation. This is so fucking stupid it reeks.

I MEAN DELETED, and never ever allowed to happen again. Youse people have not the ability to debate such issues logically and I consider this thread to be a fucking embarrassment to CM, and to me.

Now how's that for the truth ?

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RE: Guilty Verdict in Obama Trial - 5/23/2010 1:48:45 AM   
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This whole thread should be deleted. Not locked, but completely fucking erased. It is beneath me or anyone I would welcome into my home or organisation. This is so fucking stupid it reeks.

I MEAN DELETED, and never ever allowed to happen again. Youse people have not the ability to debate such issues logically and I consider this thread to be a fucking embarrassment to CM, and to me.

Now how's that for the truth ?

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Welcome to the thread and congratulations on getting into the general spirit of things straight off.

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