RE: Quote of the Week

RE: Quote of the Week (Full Version)

All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion

Message

Arpig -> RE: Quote of the Week (5/21/2010 6:15:14 PM)
quote: The Queen is Chinese? Ooops, you are right, the Governor General is only "sort of" our head of state

TreasureKY -> RE: Quote of the Week (5/21/2010 6:46:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife I've already said that the credible authority is basic observation. Do you want to dispute that the sign in the photo I posted was racist? You believe simple observation is credible authority? You belong in the same arrogant ignorance camp as DomKen. [8\|] As for the sign... so what? Any idiot can make a sign and display it. It proves nothing. Was this single photo supposed to be proof positive that the Tea Party is racist? quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife I have already acknowledged that not every teabagger is racist. My contention was that the tea parties seem to draw an inordinate number of those who are. What constitutes an "inordinate number" and where is your statistical proof? Your post to NG inferred that the witnessed rally in Kentucky didn't seem racist because it wasn't "overt" and made politically correct by denial. Were you lying then? Are you now backing down and admitting that while some racists might also share the political ideology of the Tea Party, that the Tea Party isn't racist?

DomKen -> RE: Quote of the Week (5/21/2010 8:15:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TreasureKY quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen Oh please. Stop this stupidity already. I grew up in the old South, within walking distance of Stone Mountain back when they held Klan rallies there. Many of my relatives are racists and I've been around as long as I can remember. I know the code words racists use to hide in plain sight. I know what 14 words means. I know what 88 symbolizes. A significant plurality, majority IMO, of the attendees of tea party events I've been at in person, both in Chicago and in Alabama, as well as those I've seen on TV are racists. Claiming otherwise is to deny the evidence plain before your face. sighs And you are an idiot, too. So what? You grew up in the South and you know and love a bunch of racists and Klan members. You know some "code" words and secret symbols. Bloody good for you. If you want to make that mean something to anyone else but yourself, I suggest you share your knowledge with the rest of us... then provide some concrete proof and factual evidence that it somehow officially ties in with the entire Tea Party movement. Otherwise to be honest, your opinion... despite your own hubris... doesn't mean jack. Who said anything about "officially". Although it isn't hard to establish that the founders are bigots. Dale Robertson (owner of teaparty.org) http://washingtonindependent.com/73036/n-word-sign-dogs-would-be-tea-party-leader Dick Armey (Head of FreedomWorks i.e. creator of the tea party movement) http://www.nytimes.com/1995/02/02/opinion/journal-closet-clout.html So I assume that the you will now acknowledge being wrong.

TreasureKY -> RE: Quote of the Week (5/21/2010 8:45:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen Who said anything about "officially". Although it isn't hard to establish that the founders are bigots. Dale Robertson (owner of teaparty.org) http://washingtonindependent.com/73036/n-word-sign-dogs-would-be-tea-party-leader Dick Armey (Head of FreedomWorks i.e. creator of the tea party movement) http://www.nytimes.com/1995/02/02/opinion/journal-closet-clout.html So I assume that the you will now acknowledge being wrong. Dream on. I requested "official". I'm tired of you blowhards on here spouting off your biased opinions and expecting everyone else to take them as fact. As for Dale Robertson, I'll simply take the time to re-post a response I made to dumiguy a while back... quote: ORIGINAL: TreasureKY lol... sheesh Domi, you sure do get emotional when you don't understand. Okay, I'm going to put this into small words and sentences so maybe... just maybe... you'll start to get it. quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy The point is that Dale robertson runs the website...he is a leader. his feelings are clear on that sign...Go to his website. Dale runs a website. The Tea Party is NOT a website. Dale just happened to get the url "teaparty.org". "Teaparty.org" is NOT representative of the Tea Party. The membership of "teaparty.org" totals 77 people. 77 people. Dale runs a website where 77 people are members. quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy I said the tea baggers are racist....Because they kicked him out doesn't change that fact....Got it? Dale may be racist. Dale DOES NOT represent the Tea Party. Dale runs a website with 77 members. Dale is NOT a leader of the Tea Party. Dale runs a website. With 77 members. 77 people across the United States. Dale does NOT lead or represent the Tea Party. Is this starting to sink in yet? As for Armey? Don't know at the moment and don't care. He's just another career politician trying to bank on the dissatisfaction of the people who are attracted to the ideology of what has become to be known as the Tea Party. It isn't worth any more of my time to bother with researching the membership of his website. It's late and Firm is calling me to bed. Deal with it.

Silence8 -> RE: Quote of the Week (5/21/2010 9:01:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail No, I don't think anyone thinks that birthers are necessesarily racist, I think to a man out here, we see them as drooling imbiciles, incapable of cogent thought or deed. No, I think the birther thing is a pretty clear-cut case of racism.

Silence8 -> RE: Quote of the Week (5/21/2010 9:03:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arpig Every birther is a total idiot No, again -- while some birthers are in fact stupid, and some stupid and racist, I think most are racist but want to dress it up, so are using the birther argument as a sort of Trojan horse.

Silence8 -> RE: Quote of the Week (5/21/2010 9:06:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TreasureKY quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent He definitely did not think racism was a factor and he was in a decent position to know. In fact he said any attempt to turn the debate into a question of race didn't go down very well at all with the audience. Not surprising. It's been interesting to see the left crying racism at every turn. They seem to think anyone criticizing a black man, must be criticizing because he is black. They don't seem to cotton-on to the notion that the fact he is black is incidental and irrelevant. That, and some (like DomKen) think that because the majority of attendees at Tea Party gatherings are white, they must be racist. They just don't seem to have the capacity to understand the racial makeup of the United States is more or less around 80% white (according to the 2000 Census). While they have been given evidence that the racial makeup of supporters of the Tea Party are pretty much in line with the makeup of the US as a whole, they are blind to it because it doesn't support their cause which is to discredit the Tea Party. Tea Partiers Are Fairly Mainstream in Their Demographics AP Stereotypes Tea Party Race Demographics; Ignores Gallup Poll Showing Numbers in Line with Public The Tea Party and Racial Prejudice In sum, we don’t see evidence of racial motivation in Tea Party support. But the perception is there, particularly among the movement’s opponents, and as such poses a risk to its efforts to expand its appeal. So, this is obviously false. That doesn't interest me, though. What I'm interested in is whether you in fact believe that it's true. It's also possible that you believe you believe it's true, but actually you don't believe. (This latter arrangement is more common than I think people sometimes recognize.)

Silence8 -> RE: Quote of the Week (5/21/2010 9:08:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TreasureKY quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen Who said anything about "officially". Although it isn't hard to establish that the founders are bigots. Dale Robertson (owner of teaparty.org) http://washingtonindependent.com/73036/n-word-sign-dogs-would-be-tea-party-leader Dick Armey (Head of FreedomWorks i.e. creator of the tea party movement) http://www.nytimes.com/1995/02/02/opinion/journal-closet-clout.html So I assume that the you will now acknowledge being wrong. Dream on. I requested "official". I'm tired of you blowhards on here spouting off your biased opinions and expecting everyone else to take them as fact. As for Dale Robertson, I'll simply take the time to re-post a response I made to dumiguy a while back... quote: ORIGINAL: TreasureKY lol... sheesh Domi, you sure do get emotional when you don't understand. Okay, I'm going to put this into small words and sentences so maybe... just maybe... you'll start to get it. quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy The point is that Dale robertson runs the website...he is a leader. his feelings are clear on that sign...Go to his website. Dale runs a website. The Tea Party is NOT a website. Dale just happened to get the url "teaparty.org". "Teaparty.org" is NOT representative of the Tea Party. The membership of "teaparty.org" totals 77 people. 77 people. Dale runs a website where 77 people are members. quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy I said the tea baggers are racist....Because they kicked him out doesn't change that fact....Got it? Dale may be racist. Dale DOES NOT represent the Tea Party. Dale runs a website with 77 members. Dale is NOT a leader of the Tea Party. Dale runs a website. With 77 members. 77 people across the United States. Dale does NOT lead or represent the Tea Party. Is this starting to sink in yet? As for Armey? Don't know at the moment and don't care. He's just another career politician trying to bank on the dissatisfaction of the people who are attracted to the ideology of what has become to be known as the Tea Party. It isn't worth any more of my time to bother with researching the membership of his website. It's late and Firm is calling me to bed. Deal with it. Again, why make it official, when unofficial works so well? That's not how the game works, and no one with whom you're arguing is stupid enough to play.

TheHeretic -> RE: Quote of the Week (5/21/2010 10:23:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail No, I don't think anyone thinks that birthers are necessesarily racist, I think to a man out here, we see them as drooling imbiciles, incapable of cogent thought or deed. Much like the folks who spent years insisting Bush really lost the election. Neither worth pissing on, if they were on fire.

AnimusRex -> RE: Quote of the Week (5/21/2010 11:59:06 PM)
FR- Asking if they are all racists is am impossible question- undeniably some are, some aren't. The bigger issue for me, is that they are being driven by a childish sense of poutrage, a refusal to take responsibility for their own words. Example- they claim to be angry about deficit spending- yet there has never been one credible Tea party proposal for a balanced budget. What Tea party spokesman or figure has named one major budget priority to be cut? As I laid out several months ago, there are only 5 major categories of budget: 1. Defense/ Homeland Security= 1 Trillion 2. Social Security= 1 Trillion 3. Medicare= 0.6 Trillion 4. Debt Payments= 0.4 Trillion 5. Everything Else= 0.5 Trillion It would be simple to just state, clearly, what those numbers should be- more Defense or less? More SS/ Medicare or less? What fucking thing do they want to spend less on, to avoid deficits? They don't know. They honestly, truly don't seem to care about making a credible budget. Instead, they want to wail and whine and cry endlessly about evil cabals of unnamed Enemies Of Real Merka who are somehow taking their Merka away. So now we have a Tea Partier, Rand Paul, who is livid about gummint spending; but has said he doesn't want to cut Medicare reimbursements to doctors like himself; another Tea Partier in WA state who hates gummint spending, but doesn't want to cut agricultural subsidies to agribusiness interests like himself; and the many Tea partiers interviewed who are collecting Social Security checks and Medicare who absolutely fucking want to stop all gummint spending....except Social Security and Medicare. This isn't a collection of serious patriots who want to chart a new course for our government; this is a a temper tantrum, a collective hissy fit.

Vendaval -> RE: Quote of the Week (5/22/2010 1:59:53 AM)
Fast Reply - I don't think the whole Tea Party movement is racist but that there are racist people who participate and are drawn to it.

Termyn8or -> RE: Quote of the Week (5/22/2010 2:34:51 AM)
"So now we have a Tea Partier, Rand Paul, who is livid about gummint spending; but has said he doesn't want to cut Medicare reimbursements to doctors like himself; another Tea Partier in WA state who hates gummint spending, but doesn't want to cut agricultural subsidies to agribusiness interests like himself; and the many Tea partiers interviewed who are collecting Social Security checks and Medicare who absolutely fucking want to stop all gummint spending....except Social Security and Medicare." Now you've gone and done it, written a brilliant short summary - of human nature. People never seem to grow up, they are like children with a gimme gimme gimme attitude. Same goes for rights, I am not homosexual, but I would support people's right to be so. The question is will they support my right to keep and bear arms ? That's only one "fer example", this country, and probably the world is repleat with people who only care about themselves. The rich want to tax the poor, the poor want to tax the rich. The old want their SS checks, the young do not want to pay in. An exhaustive list would go on so long it would take an hour to load the text on a T100 connection and probably be fifty times as lengthy as the Bible and ALL legislation ever introduced in the government, passed or not. But we can cut to the quick and just sum it up saying that people are selfish and self centered. What's more nobody knows how to argue a point anymore. When facts don't work, attack the character. Perhaps there are (is ?) a large contingent of racists in the tea party, but what of it ? If they win they can't pass laws that say Blacks can't do this but Whites can anymore than Obama could do the reverse. People, no matter how educated they may be, are mostly boneheads, we have examples right here in this forum. And then more insidious are those who have some arguing skills, and even facts to back up their position, but use it to further a hidden agenda. These problems run very deep and are not easily solved. Actually at this point I don't think there is a solution. T

domiguy -> RE: Quote of the Week (5/22/2010 2:49:55 AM)
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/05/20/2010-05-20_tea_party_leader_mark_williams_says_sorry_for_monkey_god_remark__to_hindus.html Tea Party Express leader Mark Williams says 'sorry' - to Hindus - for slamming Muslim's 'monkey god' Days after writing that Muslims worship "the terrorists' monkey god," embattled Tea Party leader Mark Williams apologized for his insensitivity - to Hindus. "In the course of the article I described the 'god' worshiped by terrorists as 'a monkey god.' I was wrong and that was offensive. I owe an apology to millions of Hindus who worship Lord Hanuman, an actual Monkey God," Williams wrote Wednesday night. The original blog post equated the proposed Mosque adjacent to Ground Zero to a monument to the 9/11 terrorists. Williams, chairman of the Tea Party Express and frequent CNN contributor, was denounced by Muslim leaders and politicians like Mayor Bloomberg for the "appalling" comment. Williams did not apologize to Muslims in the new blog post. Instead, he used the apology to Hundus as another way to attack Muslims. "Hanuman is worshiped as a symbol of perseverance, strength and devotion. He is known as a destroyer of evil and to inspire and liberate. Those are hardly the traits of whatever the Hell (literally) it is that terrorists worship and worthy of my respect and admiration not ridicule." "So, again, to my Hindu friends, I offer my sincerest apologies for my horrible lapse and my insensitivity. It was unintentional, inexplicably ignorant and I am ashamed at my offense toward you." Just another piece of shit racist tea bagger like Rand Paul. I know only 77 people follow Mark Williams as well, right Treasure? Give it a rest. the movement is sponsored by racist fucks. Rand Paul ......He says that he does support the civil rights acts but doesn't want to have government getting into the affairs of private business. Of all of the analogies he could have used to prove this point he chooses the civil rights movement? Questioner: But...? Rand Paul: (nervous laugh) You had to ask me the "but." um.. I don't like the idea of telling private business owners - I abhor racism - I think it's a bad business decision to ever exclude anybody from your restaurant. But at the same time I do believe in private ownership. But I think there should be absolutely no discrimination on anything that gets any public funding and that's most of what the Civil Rights Act was about to my mind. Questioner: And then it was extended by most to most localities to include all... Would you be in favor of just local-- Rand Paul: On a local basis it might be a little different. The thing is I would speak out in favor of it. (pause) I mean, I look at the speeches of Martin Luther King, and I tell you I become emotional watching the speeches of Martin Luther King. I love it because he was a transformational figure... [...] (goes on to talk about Martin Luther King for a few moments) Questioner: But under your philosophy it would be okay for Dr. King to not be served at the counter at Woolworths? Rand Paul: I would not go to that Woolworth's, and I would stand up in my community and say it's abhorrent. um... But the hard part, and this is the hard part about believing in freedom is, if you believe in the First Amendment, for example, you to, for example-- most good defenders will believe in abhorrent groups standing up and saying awful things, and we're here at the bastion of newspaperdom (sic) and I'm sure you believe in the First Amendment, so I'm sure you understand people can say bad things. It's the same way with other behaviors. In a free society we will tolerate boorish people who have abhorrent behavior, but if we're civilized people we publicly criticize that and don't belong to those groups or associate with those people. Questioner: But it's different with race, certainly a hundred years, discrimination based on race was codified under federal law. Rand Paul: Exactly, it was institutionalize and that's why we had to end all of the institutional racism in um.. I was in favor of completely of that ... Very odd people to say the least. Subrob is the perfect example. tea bagger ninkompoop.

Politesub53 -> RE: Quote of the Week (5/22/2010 3:26:47 AM)
Domi nails it again.

rulemylife -> RE: Quote of the Week (5/22/2010 3:30:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TreasureKY You believe simple observation is credible authority? You belong in the same arrogant ignorance camp as DomKen. [8\|] As for the sign... so what? Any idiot can make a sign and display it. It proves nothing. Was this single photo supposed to be proof positive that the Tea Party is racist. What constitutes an "inordinate number" and where is your statistical proof? Your post to NG inferred that the witnessed rally in Kentucky didn't seem racist because it wasn't "overt" and made politically correct by denial. Were you lying then? Are you now backing down and admitting that while some racists might also share the political ideology of the Tea Party, that the Tea Party isn't racist? If you want to discuss something then do it honestly. Somehow I don't think anyone has made a formal study of teabaggers, though I would think that would be a psychologist's dream. But there is enough anecdotal evidence to conclude that the tea party events draw a disproportionate number of those who appear to have race as one of their primary issues. As far as backing down, I've always stated the same, which I've restated in the last sentence.

rulemylife -> RE: Quote of the Week (5/22/2010 3:52:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail No, I don't think anyone thinks that birthers are necessesarily racist, I think to a man out here, we see them as drooling imbiciles, incapable of cogent thought or deed. Much like the folks who spent years insisting Bush really lost the election. Neither worth pissing on, if they were on fire. He did lose. By the popular vote. And it's still questionable whether he actually won the electoral vote. But what really amuses me about that whole situation was the conservatives who constantly beat the drum for states rights had no problem with the conservative majority on the U.S. Supreme Court overriding the decision of the Florida Supreme Court to allow a recount.

TheHeretic -> RE: Quote of the Week (5/22/2010 6:08:17 AM)
Speaking of people not worth pissing on if they were on fire... Get your ass back over to the Holder thread if you want to reply to me, RML.

Jeffff -> RE: Quote of the Week (5/22/2010 6:10:35 AM)
LOL... Rich... I think I might vote for you if you ran for office...:)

TheHeretic -> RE: Quote of the Week (5/22/2010 6:13:02 AM)
Pffft. Votes are easy. Will you get out the checkbook for a nice fat campaign contribution?

Musicmystery -> RE: Quote of the Week (5/22/2010 7:22:10 AM)
quote: funny we never hear "throw the bums out" Nonsense. We hear it every few elections, and have for two centuries. It's among the naivety of the Teas that any would think this is new or a solution.

Page: << < prev 1 2 [3] 4 next > >>

Collarchat.com © 2025

Terms of Service

0.046875