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Moonhead -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (6/1/2010 2:17:14 PM)

My mistake. I beg the both of your pardons.




kiwisub12 -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (6/1/2010 2:17:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Rule



The reports on this have been few & relegated mostly to the internet, and always come across as rumor. Mostly there has apparently been little hard evidence this goes on. In many Muslim nations homosexuals are killed or executed for their ‘crime.’


Per my definition all populations that circumcise their males are Abrahamic Jews. That includes muslims.



Good grief - so my brothers are Jewish! Gosh - my parents are going to be so surprised- they thought they were of Irish extraction, and Roman Catholic to boot! How odd!




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (6/1/2010 2:28:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

My mistake. I beg the both of your pardons.

It's all good, MH [:)]





Rule -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (6/1/2010 2:31:02 PM)

It is how I with my background in biology define circumcised populations.

A physicist sees no difference between normal and circumcised populations. He would say: let us assume that these humans are cylinders with a diameter of twenty centimeters and a length of 163 centimeters.

And I am sure that a cook would have another perspective too.

Guess what: When considering evolution and evolutionary tracks, the biologist's definition usually is the only valid one.




pahunkboy -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (6/1/2010 2:36:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

quote:

ORIGINAL: Moonhead

My mistake. I beg the both of your pardons.

It's all good, MH [:)]




I shall take your statement under consideration.


Maybe.  hiccup




heartcream -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (6/1/2010 2:38:20 PM)

It was an unintentional mistake call off the freaking lions ya freaking Romans.

Pahunk dont you have some woman's marriage to ruin?




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (6/1/2010 2:38:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

quote:

ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

quote:

ORIGINAL: Moonhead

My mistake. I beg the both of your pardons.

It's all good, MH [:)]




I shall take your statement under consideration.


Maybe.  hiccup



Ooooo I'm under consideration! [8D]




pahunkboy -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (6/1/2010 2:43:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: heartcream

It was an unintentional mistake call off the freaking lions ya freaking Romans.

Pahunk dont you have some woman's marriage to ruin?



Who is this?

Only friends will tell you the deal.  Now you may improve so as to win more of your arguments.

- the board cut you slack as it was a while before this was "freaking Romans".

Ask your Dr if Valium is right for you.




pahunkboy -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (6/1/2010 2:45:19 PM)

Zep you=- are my favorite bear on the list.


!!!




kiwisub12 -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (6/1/2010 2:49:36 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Rule

It is how I with my background in biology define circumcised populations.

A physicist sees no difference between normal and circumcised populations. He would say: let us assume that these humans are cylinders with a diameter of twenty centimeters and a length of 163 centimeters.

And I am sure that a cook would have another perspective too.

Guess what: When considering evolution and evolutionary tracks, the biologist's definition usually is the only valid one.



So by your definition, my brother the Catholic priest is Jewish, and my other brother is Jewish - but his kids aren't because they aren't circumcised. Your world view must be very confusing.




heartcream -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (6/1/2010 2:50:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy


Who is this?

Only friends will tell you the deal.  Now you may improve so as to win more of your arguments.

- the board cut you slack as it was a while before this was "freaking Romans".

Ask your Dr if Valium is right for you.



Valium is never right for me but that is me.

You said you fuck married men in the park, adding to the demise of said marriage, said wife.

I am not here trying to win or to argue btw.

I am here learning when I can, being entertained in different ways, and speaking my mind. Do you ever go outside?




pahunkboy -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (6/1/2010 2:53:25 PM)

I think you are mistaken.

Wouldn't a park be outside?




Raiikun -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (6/1/2010 3:18:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: heartcream

Railkin, you said in a simpy voice about we shouldnt use knives to cut the umbilical cord, you brought it up.


Actually I made no such assertion. I did, instead, propose an "if/then" statement challenging a silly statement you made.




Rule -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (6/1/2010 3:20:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kiwisub12
So by your definition, my brother the Catholic priest is Jewish, and my other brother is Jewish - but his kids aren't because they aren't circumcised.

That is correct.

From my point of view both - as well as the parents that presumably had them circumcised - have sinned, both in a secular and in a spiritual way. Both, though, also have redeemed themselves and perhaps your parents as well. Your brother the Catholic priest by having no children and your other brother by not continuing the perverted practice of circumcision.

quote:

ORIGINAL: kiwisub12
Your world view must be very confusing.

On the contrary, it is simple, as evidenced by you comprehending it easily.




kiwisub12 -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (6/1/2010 4:23:16 PM)

Just as a matter of interest, how do you consider a child/baby as sinning by being circumcised? Since it is something they have no control over, how exactly is what happens to them a sin of theirs.




rulemylife -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (6/1/2010 4:31:30 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rule

It is how I with my background in biology define circumcised populations.



And what exactly is that background, oh wise uncircumcised one?




pahunkboy -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (6/1/2010 4:37:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rule

It is how I with my background in biology define circumcised populations.



And what exactly is that background, oh wise uncircumcised one?



It must be late.  LOLOLOL.    (sorry)




Rule -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (6/1/2010 4:44:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kiwisub12
Just as a matter of interest, how do you consider a child/baby as sinning by being circumcised? Since it is something they have no control over, how exactly is what happens to them a sin of theirs.

As they are vectors of secular and spiritual sin, they by definition are sinners. In their case being innocents has got nothing to do with it. The only way they can redeem themselves and perchance - but that only if all their siblings do the same - their parents, is by repenting and by stopping the practice of circumcision.




kiwisub12 -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (6/1/2010 5:31:00 PM)

so ............... redemption for circumcised children is dependent on their siblings agreeing not to circumcise THEIR children? Damn, you obviously don't have siblings!
Basically your god condemns generations of children.

glad it isn't mine. Mine is a bit more easy going.




Rule -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (6/1/2010 6:04:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: kiwisub12
so ............... redemption for circumcised children is dependent on their siblings agreeing not to circumcise THEIR children?

You ought to read more carefully. I am actually somewhat disappointed.

Those who are circumcised may redeem themselves by repenting and by determining that the practice of circumcision must stop. That is what I said.

For their parents it is a different matter. They may be a bit redeemed if one of their children repents and determines that the practice must stop, but these parents can only to some degree be completely redeemed (spiritually) when they themselves and (secularly) all of their children repent and determine that the practice of circumcision must stop.

quote:

ORIGINAL: kiwisub12
Basically your god condemns generations of children.

glad it isn't mine. Mine is a bit more easy going.

Yeah, well, the algorithms of evolution are inexorable. (Just like The Cold Equations; I recommend everyone to read that short science fiction story. Universal laws cannot be dickered with.)

You can deny as much as you want that neither the Divine nor the processes of evolution do exist and assert that if they do exist they will not affect you, but guess what: if you go out in the rain, you will get wet, no matter how much you deny that the rain exists and no matter how often you assert that you cannot get wet.




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