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LadyEllen -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/22/2010 5:43:40 PM)

http://www.circlist.com/rites/usa_prisons.html

If circumcision leads to enhanced likelihood of aggression and violence, and this has been established by scientific studies, why would this prison doctor be circumcising everyone he can and feeling a need to conduct studies of circumcision vs non-circumcision in the prison population when he could readily acquire the information which he is apparently so ignorant of?

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rulemylife -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/22/2010 5:47:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: heartcream


I am not sure how you are jumping to spinal taps, which I know nothing about (but they do sound awful).



That depends on your tastes, but they don't sound that bad.


Spinal Tap - The Majesty Of Rock


Or, more in keeping with the spirit of this site:


Spinal Tap - Bitch School









IdiotMale -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/22/2010 5:55:41 PM)

The only thing lost due to circumsision is the loss of a once ugly ass cock.




pahunkboy -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/22/2010 5:58:44 PM)

Circumcision tutoring now here! EZ FUN




SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/22/2010 6:19:58 PM)

Do you need this tuition, how hard can it be I asks?




GotSteel -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/22/2010 6:21:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: eyesopened
Back in the late 1940s not a lot of doctors were adept at the surgery and my dad asked his friend (a jew) if a non-jew could get a Mohel to perform the surgury.  As it turns out they could and they did. 

I hope he managed to convince the Mohel to skip the step where he sucks on the penis, talk about increasing one's risk of STDs [&:]





heartcream -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/22/2010 6:24:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

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ORIGINAL: heartcream


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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

Actually no, I don't find talking about bodyparts creepy, I do find talking to kids about their penises and how they feel about being/not being circumcised creepy.

Interesting, I made a comment you.....well took shots at me. Overly defensive much?



That is too bad.

Not really. I just don't talk to other peoples' kids about such things, I kinda figure that is their parents' job.




You arent following along. I didnt talk to the kid his mom did. I can imagine at times it could be fine to talk to younger people about their feelings on it. I am sorry it is repellent to you. I wouldnt go around doing it unless it felt right but I can imagine when it would.




heartcream -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/22/2010 6:26:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

http://www.circlist.com/rites/usa_prisons.html

If circumcision leads to enhanced likelihood of aggression and violence, and this has been established by scientific studies, why would this prison doctor be circumcising everyone he can and feeling a need to conduct studies of circumcision vs non-circumcision in the prison population when he could readily acquire the information which he is apparently so ignorant of?

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Seriously? Yeah because we like to treat our prisoner's so well huh? They always have been shown such humane treatment. Not.

Let me add I am talking about infants, just burst forth from the womb in the first place althou this so called doctor sounds seriously to be avoided as well.




pahunkboy -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/22/2010 6:28:26 PM)

I am going to an all night cut and fold party.  today is mens night.   I will bring the scalpel,




auditguy -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/22/2010 6:59:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

of course a schoolboy error in the revised history Arpig - it was the Jews in Germany that caused both episodes of unpleasantness last century, seeking in the first to bolster their banking interests and in the second to cause the downfall of western civilisation and its replacement with a Zionist agenda

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Nice.  I was waiting for somebody to bring this up in a nice circumcision discussion, but I think you forgot to mention our involvement with 9/11, the rise of the Dark Lord Sauron, and fluoride in the water supply.




tazzygirl -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/22/2010 7:19:07 PM)

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Nope I dont talk to anywhere near close to a 100 men, and I dont think I said I did. You said that though, not me.


You doubted another poster's statement. Yet can offer no proof to the contrary.

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Now THAT is creepy. Why are you asking other kids about their uncircumcised ... shudders. such a freaky conversation to be sure. Now, allow me to ask you a question

how the hell do they know what they are missing... on either side of the knife?


I am sorry you cant feel into that. Feel into it, you might get some flickering feelings of what they missed or how horrible it was for the ones to be cut.


You can only assume you know what they are feeling. They can only assume what they felt at one day of age.

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I have held down children for immunization shots... according to your theory, we should stop those.

My opinion, yup. Pretty much, yes.


Your opinion on this is pretty much as you posted on this thread.. stupid. If you care to get into this discussion, im all for it.

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I have yet to hear from any of these men that they are missing out on something because they lost a bit of foreskin. You are female. Exactly what do you know about the sensations or loss of such to a penis.... one you dont have?



Sweetie calm down sheesh. Of course I am a woman I can feel into the loss of another.
As to the bolded bit, how would like to lose a bit of clitoris?

I am not sure how you are jumping to spinal taps, which I know nothing about (but they do sound awful).

Please dont speak for me, when you do that I find it unbecoming when you do.


What did you learn in school? Since when is asking a question "speaking" for the other person?

Then again, when you are backpeddaling as fast as you are, i can understand how you may want to misconstrue the intentions of others.

Spinal taps... another painful medical procedure... never heard of meningitis? not surprising if you havent.

Again, you have yet to address any of the medical problems i posted about the problems with not being curcumcised. Its easy to avoid them when they show your position isnt as rock solid as you have been lead to believe. Then again, im sure some man will thank his mother profusely when he loses a few inches of cock.




auditguy -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/22/2010 7:26:04 PM)


Kramer: (about the Bris) Hey, we're not talking about a manicure. Imagine, this is gonna be his first memory of his parents, just standing there while some stranger cuts off a piece of his manhood and then serves a catered lunch!

Jerry: Well, if it isn't Shakey the Mohel! You did a hell of a circumcision there pal. But it's not supposed to be a finger.
Mohel: It was your fault! You flinched!
Jerry: Who made you a mohel? Whadya, get your degree from a matchbook?
Mohel: (making a sudden movement towards Jerry) See! See! He flinched again!
Jerry: Good mohel picking, Elaine. You picked a helluva mohel.


Jerry: I've never had stitches! I'll be deformed. I can't live with that. It goes against my whole personality. It's just not me!

Gold! That show is pure gold.

On a more personal note, as an uncircumcised member of the chosen people, I have not lived up to the covenant (I blame my parents and the Soviet Union for that little oversight).  G-d in his infinite wisdom and as a way to show his great sense of humor has caused me to have Phimosis.  I mean I can’t complain, since when you don't know any better it is not a problem.  But what is the point of having a more sensitive glans when the foreskin does not fully retract?  I get no benefit and all of the hassles of the foreskin.....me and the big guy are going to have a big laugh about this when I get up there.

So the lesson of this story is: circumcise, especially if you are a member of the Tribe.




JstAnotherSub -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/22/2010 7:37:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: heartcream



I met a man who's son had a baby boy and he was waiting with his grand daughter at the window. The nurse came and shut the window, there was a massive scream and the deed was done. Can you see anything wrong with this picture? Look at it with your heart.
heck i was right outside the door when they did my sons.....not a peep outa him, he was sleeping when they gave him back to me, whole thing took a minute or so...he never cried, the lil plastic ring fell off a week or so later...

i  did the research, and i made the decision it would be best for my son to have it done.  feel free to do the research and decide what you think is right for any children you have.




tazzygirl -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/22/2010 7:39:42 PM)

Many babies are being given locals to help with pain management. Their memory abilities are extremely short term. heartcream's argument that men remember their circumcision is alot of bunk.




JstAnotherSub -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/22/2010 7:49:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Many babies are being given locals to help with pain management. Their memory abilities are extremely short term. heartcream's argument that men remember their circumcision is alot of bunk.
i agree about the bunk...i am waiting for a thread to start about lets always do c-sections, cause poor babies are traumatized by having their lil heads squeezed through the birth canal and that trauma causes them to perform worse on crct tests and to not be able to think as logically as c-section babies.

i remember my trip through the birth canal, it made my head hurt, and all that pushing!  it hurts me still that my mom pushed me away from day 1!

sighs




Brain -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/22/2010 7:58:55 PM)

I don't remember being circumcised. And I am not interested in war either. I think it's a good idea to do it to prevent or minimize spreading diseases. It's important to have a qualified medical professional conduct the procedure - I would not just let anyone do it.




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/22/2010 8:11:12 PM)

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As to the bolded bit, how would like to lose a bit of clitoris?


Now this is really stretching it. How can you possibly equate circumcision with have part of the clitoris removed? This is just beyond ridiculous.




Arpig -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/22/2010 8:11:38 PM)

A couple of points....
1) My penis is plenty sensitive & gives me great pleasure...perhaps it would be more so with a foreskin....I will never know
2) I have absolutely no memory of my circumcision...in fact I have no memories before age 4
3) My son didn't make a peep when he was circumcised, but screamed bloody murder when he was baptised[;)]




tazzygirl -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/22/2010 8:12:57 PM)

I begged my obstretrician to perform my son's. LOL.. helped that my mom worked as a nurse in that hospital and the nursery nurses cluded me in on how "good" the pediatrician was.




tazzygirl -> RE: What is Lost Due to Circumcision? (5/22/2010 8:23:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Many babies are being given locals to help with pain management. Their memory abilities are extremely short term. heartcream's argument that men remember their circumcision is alot of bunk.
i agree about the bunk...i am waiting for a thread to start about lets always do c-sections, cause poor babies are traumatized by having their lil heads squeezed through the birth canal and that trauma causes them to perform worse on crct tests and to not be able to think as logically as c-section babies.

i remember my trip through the birth canal, it made my head hurt, and all that pushing!  it hurts me still that my mom pushed me away from day 1!

sighs


Its already begun its formulation as a next topic.

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We have all been damaged in this world, with forceps and all sorts of things we thought were the way to go. Moving toward healing this trauma, these traumas is pretty cool.


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