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domiguy -> RE: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship (5/23/2010 12:05:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

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ORIGINAL: domiguy


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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

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ORIGINAL: domiguy
Why not get a tank? Or a SAM? You are an idiot birther, douchebag.


I'm not a birther, dipshit, I've never said Obama wasn't born in Hawaii. What does a Sam or a Tank have to do with the second amendment?

You're nothing but an idiot, you know that?



Fuck off. You have questioned Obama in other threads. You are just another frightened pussy that needs a gun to feel safe.

Go buy a gun....If you can't get one where you live move and then buy a fucking arsenal. No one is stopping you on either count.

Because I moved out of the fucking shit hole called Chicago, you're such a badass here, I'm shakin in my boots here[8|]

Fuckin pole smoker.



You moved out of a great city...You probably couldn't handle it or afford it. Oh that's right you got tired of the politics so you moved to indianapolis. So much to do in that shithole. What a pussy.

You don't own boots, you lick them. Worm.



subrob1967 -> RE: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship (5/23/2010 1:13:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: domiguy
You moved out of a great city...You probably couldn't handle it or afford it. Oh that's right you got tired of the politics so you moved to indianapolis. So much to do in that shithole. What a pussy.

You don't own boots, you lick them. Worm.


Keyboard Kommando whines again...LMAO



Lucylastic -> RE: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship (5/23/2010 1:16:57 PM)

whats a pole smoker?



popeye1250 -> RE: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship (5/23/2010 1:22:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

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ORIGINAL: domiguy
You moved out of a great city...You probably couldn't handle it or afford it. Oh that's right you got tired of the politics so you moved to indianapolis. So much to do in that shithole. What a pussy.

You don't own boots, you lick them. Worm.


Keyboard Kommando whines again...LMAO



Speaking about licking boots Obama put a nice shine on Calderon's boots didn't he?
So, we now have a president who stands with a foreign president and speaks out against the American People and one of our states!
"High crimes and misdemeanors."
From now on it's not "President Obama" it's "President Quisling."
Funny that all of a sudden Mexico is interested in "our laws!"
They never cared about our laws before!



Moonhead -> RE: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship (5/23/2010 1:44:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

whats a pole smoker?

I think it's one of those folksy American synonyms for cock sucker.



kittinSol -> RE: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship (5/23/2010 1:49:55 PM)

You've got to give it to the locals, in this thread, they're really piling on the charm offensive [8|] .



Lucylastic -> RE: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship (5/23/2010 1:55:27 PM)

cock sucker rolls off the tongue easier tho.... ah well
just wondering if it was a new insult, its not very good is it when people have to ask for an explanation.




domiguy -> RE: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship (5/23/2010 1:57:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

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ORIGINAL: domiguy
You moved out of a great city...You probably couldn't handle it or afford it. Oh that's right you got tired of the politics so you moved to indianapolis. So much to do in that shithole. What a pussy.

You don't own boots, you lick them. Worm.


Keyboard Kommando whines again...LMAO


Aren't you scurred living in Indy? My God the population is 25% black....Do you own a bullet for every black?

Buy them guns, you scared to death pathetic little man.

You couldn't handle living in Chicago. You were pissing in your pants the whole time.

Why did you leave again? It was really funny...Say it again. It was sooo lame.

Birther.



rulemylife -> RE: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship (5/23/2010 3:33:36 PM)

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Obama's father was not British, he was from Kenya.



Kenya did not become independent until 1963. 



tazzygirl -> RE: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship (5/23/2010 10:59:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: THELADY

Obama's father was not British, he was from Kenya. Obama was supposedly born in Hawaii to an American mother, so weather the parents  were married or not or his father was a foreigner  is irrelevant.  and this discussion is not about Obama.

but do you suppose he might treat the Brtish with distain because of the way he feels hsis grandfather was mistreated when he joined the rebellion?....ooops thats yet another thread!!



Since the issue of his birth is a source of contention, it is relevant to this discussion.

As to the rest, i have no clue what you are on about!



cloudboy -> RE: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship (5/24/2010 1:07:45 PM)

You are deranged, people without status cannot get welfare entitlements. End of story.



tazzygirl -> RE: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship (5/24/2010 1:11:58 PM)

Are you saying people cannot get welfare through their children born as american citizens?

July 10, 2009|Anna Gorman and Teresa Watanabe
As California lawmakers struggle with a budget gap that has now grown to $26.3 billion, one of the hottest topics for many taxpayers is the cost to the state of illegal immigrants.

The question of whether taxpayers should provide services to illegal residents became a major political issue in California's last deep recession, culminating in the ballot fight over Proposition 187 in 1994. That history could repeat itself in the current downturn, as activists opposed to illegal immigration have launched a campaign for an initiative that would, among other things, cut off welfare payments to the U.S.-born children of illegal immigrants. Those children are eligible for welfare benefits because they are U.S. citizens.


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Godinez, a 43-year-old undocumented Mexican immigrant, left an abusive family and lives in transitional housing. Four of her five children are citizens and receive a total of about $650 each month from the state's CalWorks program. She also receives about $500 in federal food stamps and other vouchers.

Without the aid, the unemployed Godinez said, she wouldn't be able to provide for her family. She is studying English and hopes one day to open a business and get off welfare.

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jul/10/local/me-illegal10

Edited to answer the question for you.



cloudboy -> RE: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship (5/24/2010 1:57:30 PM)

Children born in the US are US citizens. Next question? What do you want to do, create a ghetto?



tazzygirl -> RE: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship (5/24/2010 2:32:03 PM)

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Godinez, a 43-year-old undocumented Mexican immigrant, left an abusive family and lives in transitional housing. Four of her five children are citizens and receive a total of about $650 each month from the state's CalWorks program. She also receives about $500 in federal food stamps and other vouchers.


You really do have reading comprehension issues. Sylvan works.

So, for an illegal immigrant, she is receiving $3100 a month.

San Bernardino County spent nearly $64 million in state and federal money last year to provide welfare benefits to the American-born children of illegal immigrants.

Illegal immigrants aren’t entitled to welfare. But their citizen children are.

Nationwide, one in three immigrant-headed households uses at least one major welfare program, compared with 19 percent of citizen households, according to the Center for Immigration Studies, a Washington, D.C.-based think tank that advocates immigration reduction.

In California, 192,660 citizen children are getting welfare checks passed through their illegal immigrant parents. That costs $546 million a year in state, federal and county funds, officials say.
http://oneoldvet.com/?p=15135



tazzygirl -> RE: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship (5/24/2010 2:34:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Children born in the US are US citizens. Next question? What do you want to do, create a ghetto?


Nope, i want to stop the process of automatic citizenship based simply upon walking across the boarder and dropping a baby.



cloudboy -> RE: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship (5/24/2010 3:29:19 PM)


You should have worthier goals.



Loki45 -> RE: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship (5/24/2010 3:42:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife
Funny how those like you, who regard their Second Amendment rights as gospel, find it easy to pick and choose the rest of the Constitution.


The Constitution is fluid and can be changed, as it has through the amendment process. There's nothing at all with wanting to amend an amendment.



popeye1250 -> RE: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship (5/24/2010 5:17:54 PM)

I received my T-shirts in the mail today!
"GOOD JOB ARIZONA!"
"1 down 49 to go!"

www.bergsportswear.com



tazzygirl -> RE: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship (5/24/2010 5:47:48 PM)


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You should have worthier goals.


Awww.. how cute.

I have many goals, thats just one. [;)]



thornhappy -> RE: Author of Arizona immigration law wants to end birthright citizenship (5/24/2010 5:52:50 PM)

I lived there most of my life, and way back in the '80s people warned that funding by initiative, (oops, I forgot) and insane explosion in the prison population, coupled with a required supermajority to approve new taxes, on top of Prop 13, was going to lead to a flaming fiscal disaster.

Periodically CA would run up a big surplus and then folks (almost always conservative) would start ranting that the money was "YOUR" money and the state had no right to it.  So they'd offer rebates, cut taxes, etc.  Leaving no damn money for inevitable downturns.
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California illustrates the insanity of governing by popular mandate. Voters pass propositions that sound good, and they defeat motions that increase their taxes or even allow for new borrowing. The result is a fiscal nightmare, where state agencies are forbidden to do the common sense measures any other agency would follow if it cost one penny more, and yet they are faced with mandated services and accommodations they must provide by law, while not only denied the funds to make those changes happen, but across the board cuts and hiring freezes. What's left is an unworkable disaster and a severe strain on services, one wrought primarily by proposition, not illegals.



Direct votes on issues do have their problems, but are they any more problematic than elected representatives being lobbied by special interest groups they depend on for their re-elections?




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