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ORIGINAL: heartcream

This thread sounds like, blah blah I am so smart...you dont agree with me so poo on you...blah blah I am so smart while I swat around other posters and try to sound all smarty pants yet come across all immature and mean because of bashing other posters which distinctly smells like competition and jealousy, blah blah blah, cite, cite cite, I am so smart lalalalalala I am so smart because I feel so inadequate because I have to snark out at people blah blah blah order people around to read this and answer that, I am so smart blah blah please someone tell me fast how smart I am. See how I cite? See how I write? Tell me I am smart, think I am smart.

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On the other hand, there is the TEA party movement, which is standing at the window and yelling "I'm feed up, and I'm not going to take it anymore."

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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On the other hand, there is the TEA party movement, which is standing at the window and yelling "I'm feed up, and I'm not going to take it anymore."

And the plan is....well, there isn't any plan. So things will of course get better.

By magic, no doubt.

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

Come on. It is convenient to say there are no leaders then elect leaders such as Rand Paul then cut them away as soon as they open their mouth.

You say there are no leaders?....You really can't do better than that?


That is your answer? Then no party has any leaders. None of us are responsible for shit.

We are all responsible for our own actions.

If you like the way that things have been, and continue to go in the US (and I don't mean just with the election of Obama), then don't do anything, and things will continue along their merry way.

On the other hand, there is the TEA party movement, which is standing at the window and yelling "I'm fed up, and I'm not going to take it anymore.".

Lead, follow or get the hell out of the way.

Firm

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

And the plan is....well, there isn't any plan. So things will of course get better.

By magic, no doubt.

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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY



A bit pathetically insecure, aren't you?

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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

And the plan is....well, there isn't any plan. So things will of course get better.

By magic, no doubt.

I imagine with time and maturation that a plan will eventually form.  Whether it will actually make a difference has yet to be seen.  I have my doubts.

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ORIGINAL: TPEOwner
I've said for a long time on CM that our govt. wasn't *listening* to The People!

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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

You know... I can't help that you don't understand what you read. Try harder next time or give it up as a lost cause... I really don't care.

You can continue to make personal attacks against myself and Firm all you want.  It's a free country, after all.  But what is truly sad is that you appear to feel justified in doing so because you disagree.

Whatever.

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

I'm going to scare you, DG. It really is grass roots thing. The driving force are women of middle age, not the asshats they sometimes drag along. A lot of people would love to be the leader, and the media slaps the label on damn near anybody they happen to hear of. There isn't one.

Don't knock it. You like it this way. The lack of an articulated vision and articulate visionary is the best hope President Obama has of reelection in '12

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ORIGINAL: heartcream

Hmm the tone is all bossy pants and hard coldness. The tone is grating and mean. It is needlessly self-righteously superior.
People are having a response to you why does that need justification?

Maybe if you didnt come across so snooty and cold people might experience you in a way that didnt feel like a talking proud scouring pad.

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ORIGINAL: heartcream

Be nice if women really were in the governing sector for real. Like in the old days where the women elected the Iroquois chiefs. They could also get a guy out of jail if they felt it was the right thing.

They kicked women out of decision making long time. They have common sense, they can smell a rat, they can be really smarter and keener than men...

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Actually, though, I think the government HAS been listening to the people-

We all wanted lower taxes- we got 'em.

We all wanted higher Defense spending, higher Social Security spending, higher Medicare spending- and we got it.

We all ignored the deficit and as Dick Cheney said, "Reagan proved that deficits don't matter."

Trouble with the Tea Party is that these people pretend they had nothing to do with any of this; as if none of these people ever voted for politicians who promised to increase Defense spending, as if none of these people ever voted against a politician because he was going to raise taxes, as if none of these people ever voted for the guy who both cut taxes and increased spending...

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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY
I don't disagree entirely, but I do believe the Tea Party movement hasn't quite gotten to that point.  It does appear that those opposed are mighty anxious to be the ones to have the leaders of their choice be the ones recognized... with the idea of discrediting the whole thing.

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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex

They are angry about corporate lobbying and government bailouts, yet the promoter and founder of the Tea party, Dick Armey, actually IS a lobbyist for the very banks who got the bailout.

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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

And the plan is....well, there isn't any plan. So things will of course get better.

By magic, no doubt.

I imagine with time and maturation that a plan will eventually form.  Whether it will actually make a difference has yet to be seen.  I have my doubts.

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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex

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ORIGINAL: TPEOwner
I've said for a long time on CM that our govt. wasn't *listening* to The People!

Why should they listen, when you have nothing to tell them?

You have no ideas, no plan, nothing other than, "well, I'm fuckin angry".

Actually, though, I think the government HAS been listening to the people-

We all wanted lower taxes- we got 'em.

We all wanted higher Defense spending, higher Social Security spending, higher Medicare spending- and we got it.

We all ignored the deficit and as Dick Cheney said, "Reagan proved that deficits don't matter."

Trouble with the Tea Party is that these people pretend they had nothing to do with any of this; as if none of these people ever voted for politicians who promised to increase Defense spending, as if none of these people ever voted against a politician because he was going to raise taxes, as if none of these people ever voted for the guy who both cut taxes and increased spending...

and now that the chickens have come home to roost, the Tea Partiers act surprised and look around for who is to blame.

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: heartcream

Hmm the tone is all bossy pants and hard coldness. The tone is grating and mean. It is needlessly self-righteously superior.
People are having a response to you why does that need justification?

Maybe if you didnt come across so snooty and cold people might experience you in a way that didnt feel like a talking proud scouring pad.

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ORIGINAL: heartcream

Be nice if women really were in the governing sector for real. Like in the old days where the women elected the Iroquois chiefs. They could also get a guy out of jail if they felt it was the right thing.

They kicked women out of decision making long time. They have common sense, they can smell a rat, they can be really smarter and keener than men...

God, no clearer example of decrying the exact thing that you espouse ...

A strong woman takes a position, and takes on all comers, like a man ... and you both disparage her, and disparage "the system" for letting it drive out women just like her?

Woman, you are the sickness, not the doctor.

Firm