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GreedyTop -> RE: Does anyone know if we are allowed to post links to a donation site in our journal posts? (5/26/2010 9:38:31 AM)

Do I ever get caustic?  I'm not sure.  I just call 'em as I see 'em/ 

Is it July yet?




LadyPact -> RE: Does anyone know if we are allowed to post links to a donation site in our journal posts? (5/26/2010 9:41:20 AM)

Completely off topic.........

I'm thinking there are a few folks on the boards who waiting for September instead. 

There ya go.  It's a clique joke that only folks who have been on the boards for a few seasons will get.




LadyNTrainer -> RE: Does anyone know if we are allowed to post links to a donation site in our journal posts? (5/26/2010 9:44:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: eibhlinauvert
laurell, so what youre saying then, instead of "whining or critiscing" something i find to be aborrhent. I should prolly just have sat and agreed and hope all you lot let me in your gang! haha. bravo.


Simple question.  Do you find following the rules you agreed to when you signed up to be abhorrent?  Do you find it abhorrent that when you are at a public restaurant Munch, you must not dress or behave in an "adult" way to attract unwanted attention to the group which may result in everyone being thrown out or otherwise suffering undesirable consequences? 

In an ideal world, we could all go naked when we wanted and there would be no consequences.  In the real world, even if we think nudity and sex is a good thing, we must place some limits on our public behavior, particularly when other people will suffer the consequences of our refusing to do so.  If an individual refuses to limit their behavior for the safety of the group and the host who is making it possible for everyone to gather, and becomes angry about being asked to do so, what do you think will happen to that individual?

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LadyNTrainer, thank you for offerring me points, just one question though, if i get enough of them does it mean i am then in your service? Even more thanks ( and a bit of grovelling if youd like that)


Thank you, but no. 


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As to your question, if i felt someone was being treated unfairly, not matter what group i was in, i would say it, as i have here, simple as. I think that's a pretty obvious conclusion if you would care to read my previous posts.


What, specifically, is unfair about this situation?

1: Person A breaks the rules they agreed to when they signed up, thereby putting the group and the host site at risk of some problematic consequences.
2: The host intervenes to explain that the rules were broken and that this situation must be corrected.
3: Person A responds angrily, refusing to self-limit their behavior to avoid drawing negative public attention to the group. 
4. B and C chime in with idle banter because they think it's funny that Person A is behaving this way.
5: Person A continues to be angry, provoking further negative responses from D, E and F. 

Utterly predictable. It isn't fair that you get badly burned when you stick your hand in a fire, but the answer is not to whine that fire is unfair.  The answer is to make smarter choices and not stick your hand where it's too hot to be safe or comfortable.




VaguelyCurious -> RE: Does anyone know if we are allowed to post links to a donation site in our journal posts? (5/26/2010 10:51:40 AM)

Hello eibhlinauvert,

I'm going to ignore all the snarking fromn both sides (myself included, I think, but I can't quite remember) and directly address this post, because I didn't respond directly to it at the time and there are a couple of things I assumed someone else would say but seem not to have come up.

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ORIGINAL: eibhlinauvert

I like to read threads sometimes, when  a topic sounds interesting to me, and i am more often than not disapppointed when it goes off topic and i cant gain the information i was hoping to acquire
I'd like first to point out that we're talking about a minority of threads here. People don't normally jump all over the OP-only when they perceive either that the OP has a 'bad attitude' or that they are asking a 'stupid question'. Here we are talking about the former.

Second, I'd like to explain why I haven't got an awful lot of sympathy with your position: you read and don't (until now) join in. It doesn't take much to redirect a thread in a positive way-you say 'I'd really like to hear more about the OP-here is my input'. I read this post and a political campaign slogan popped into my head. I can't remember which side of the pond it came from or which party, but it is

Be the change you want to see.

(Now I'll apologise and give you all a little time to go and throw up.) Done being disgusted by the sheer nauseous cheesiness of the words? Good. But the message still stands.

(This next paragraph sounds aggressive. Bear in mind that it isn't-I'm being blunt but I'm not in any way angry, ok? I just don't really want to tone down the language, hence this disclaimer.)

If you're a lurker (which up until now you have been) you don't benefit me anything. You sit there and absorb the content without giving anything back. I therefore am not really that bothered about your opinion of the content, apart from the innate dislike of being criticised that *everyone* has. If you don't participate then IMO you don't get a say in the running of the thing.

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...because the Collar Me clique has jumped all over and decided to berate, take the piss out of, or in my opinion, most of the time, bully the OP who isnt part of this circle.


If you were to participate in the boards in a positive way then you could balance up the actions of the 'CM Clique', but you have chosen not to do that. Instead your first post is a blunt attack. I'm going to go against what I said before and reference something after this post. A while later you said 'it was not my intention to have all of you on my back also'-what did you think was going to happen? You're an adult, you must *know* people do not respond well to blunt attacks.

What happened with your post is that you failed to 'be the change you want to see' [another vomit break, but the sentiment is valid]. You basically pointed a finger and said 'you guys are nasty' in a very nasty way, and then acted surprised when people were nasty  to you as a result. Bottom line: you generated a whole load more of the negativity you complained about. This isn't primary school. If you want to complain about how there is no intellectual dialogue you don't get to throw tantrums and expect to be taken seriously.

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I recognise at least 50 % of the people on this thread from other threads and i really think you are out of order in your treatment of someone who came on to ask whether she had permisson to post a link for a charity. Her pictures have now become the subject. If her pictures were not suitable in the first place, I really dont see why the Collar Me website has not before now noticed and removed them.
Do you have any idea how big the CM site is? The admins are volunteers-if they had to go through every picture it would cripple them.

I would also point out the OP's second post to the thread:

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Wow, I didn't know the womans physical form was so offensive to you.
Do you think your my DOM and I should follow your orders?
Is this picture more acceptable to you?
Does your religious backround require that the womans form remained covered?
Is the female form shameful to you?
Do you think women who show their bodies are of lesser morale value?
Do you think women who show their bodies are "asking for it?"
How many others have you reported here on Collare Me?


Before that there had been some light snarking from sunshine, a request from VAA to remove the photo followed by a post from VAA saying she had removed the photo and some talking between holly and sunshine. The OP could have accepted that a site admin had determined her picture (which *clearly* violated TOS) unacceptable and decided that the charity was her primary concern on this thread, but she didn't-she chose to post the above instead.

The 'treatment; she got wasn't anyting to do with the charity; it was to do with the way she abandoned the charity and got aggressive.

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...and if someone posts a thread you find tedious, ignoring it is probably alot more effective than giving it five pages of attention.


Just to point out, you've now given this thread around five pages of attention...


Edited because I missed out an 'and'.




Jeffff -> RE: Does anyone know if we are allowed to post links to a donation site in our journal posts? (5/26/2010 11:01:21 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Completely off topic.........

I'm thinking there are a few folks on the boards who waiting for September instead. 

There ya go.  It's a clique joke that only folks who have been on the boards for a few seasons will get.



When I was a wee lad, I spent my summers outside, either playing sports, or as I grew older, smoking dope. :)

It would never have occured to me to stay inside just to fuck with old people.

Kids today.. (shakes his head)




LaTigresse -> RE: Does anyone know if we are allowed to post links to a donation site in our journal posts? (5/26/2010 11:51:42 AM)

Buy em books and send em to school and this is the thanks we get!!!

(I was working, cruising around in souped up muscle cars with people a lot older than I should have been hanging out with, skinny dipping and smoking lots of dope....[:D])




laurell3 -> RE: Does anyone know if we are allowed to post links to a donation site in our journal posts? (5/26/2010 11:53:16 AM)

I was getting laid and actually experimenting with kink....silly me :P




LaTigresse -> RE: Does anyone know if we are allowed to post links to a donation site in our journal posts? (5/26/2010 11:54:16 AM)

I suppose I did laugh at the guys skinny dipping........early humiliation practice.




eibhlinauvert -> RE: Does anyone know if we are allowed to post links to a donation site in our journal posts? (5/26/2010 12:17:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

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ORIGINAL: eibhlinauvert

Greedy Top "we took a vote, we dont want you"

particularly caustic.



No not really.  See, I know Greedy in real life.  That's not caustic. 

In fact, many of us on this thread know each other in real life.  When sunshinemiss told the OP to put some clothes on, I could just about see her shielding her eyes and saying it.  Perhaps if the OP had read the screen where pictures are uploaded, she would know that the picture was unacceptable.  I mean, it's not like it's right there in big bold pretty colors.  Oh wait, yes, it is.  Pretty hard to miss it.

Cali





sheilding her eyes to the sight of a naked body,. oh my sweet lord. on a bdsm site, yawn




Phoenixpower -> RE: Does anyone know if we are allowed to post links to a donation site in our journal posts? (5/26/2010 12:20:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: eibhlinauvert

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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

quote:

ORIGINAL: eibhlinauvert

Greedy Top "we took a vote, we dont want you"

particularly caustic.



No not really.  See, I know Greedy in real life.  That's not caustic. 

In fact, many of us on this thread know each other in real life.  When sunshinemiss told the OP to put some clothes on, I could just about see her shielding her eyes and saying it.  Perhaps if the OP had read the screen where pictures are uploaded, she would know that the picture was unacceptable.  I mean, it's not like it's right there in big bold pretty colors.  Oh wait, yes, it is.  Pretty hard to miss it.

Cali





sheilding her eyes to the sight of a naked body,. oh my sweet lord. on a bdsm site, yawn


since when has a bdsm side to be tasteless??? There are plenty other pages out there if you want to see others private parts but quite frankly I agree to sunshinemiss and have no interest to see any of it on here [:'(][:'(][:'(]




sirsholly -> RE: Does anyone know if we are allowed to post links to a donation site in our journal posts? (5/26/2010 12:24:06 PM)

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It would never have occured to me to stay inside just to fuck with old people.

Kids today.. (shakes his head)


<---stays inside and fucks with Jeffffffff




VaguelyCurious -> RE: Does anyone know if we are allowed to post links to a donation site in our journal posts? (5/26/2010 12:26:49 PM)

eib,

This isn't about what should and shouldn't be allowed-the OP signed a Terms of Service agreement when she joined. If she didn't agree with the terms she shouldn't have accepted the agreement. What isn't allowed has been made perfectly clear:

Edited because I can't get the pic to work, but it was a screenshot of the uploading page where it says in *massive letters*:

No explicit primary photos




Jeffff -> RE: Does anyone know if we are allowed to post links to a donation site in our journal posts? (5/26/2010 12:27:55 PM)

As long as it keeps you out of the kitchen, Jim can thank me later.




JstAnotherSub -> RE: Does anyone know if we are allowed to post links to a donation site in our journal posts? (5/26/2010 12:40:02 PM)

13 pages of...well......interesting reading-lol.

http://www.militaryworkingdogs.com/about.shtml

seems to be a great cause that could use some help....

dunno why it took 13 pages to get there.




Jeffff -> RE: Does anyone know if we are allowed to post links to a donation site in our journal posts? (5/26/2010 12:41:58 PM)

I am not nice..... really

I can be a prick...... I don't come here for affirmation, I come her for laughs.

I just look nice next to DG.






LadyNTrainer -> RE: Does anyone know if we are allowed to post links to a donation site in our journal posts? (5/26/2010 1:13:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Phoenixpower
since when has a bdsm side to be tasteless??? There are plenty other pages out there if you want to see others private parts but quite frankly I agree to sunshinemiss and have no interest to see any of it on here [:'(][:'(][:'(]


The policy of no explicit pictures on first click of a profile probably has more to do with issues of site liability and overall site atmosphere management decisions than it does about offending individuals who are voluntarily choosing to participate on an adult site.

The bottom line is we would all be impacted in ways that might not be immediately obvious, if this particular rule was not enforced.  And that's really the issue, not so much the fact that some individuals may be offended.  That may be true, but not nearly as relevant.




Phoenixpower -> RE: Does anyone know if we are allowed to post links to a donation site in our journal posts? (5/26/2010 1:33:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyNTrainer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phoenixpower
since when has a bdsm side to be tasteless??? There are plenty other pages out there if you want to see others private parts but quite frankly I agree to sunshinemiss and have no interest to see any of it on here [:'(][:'(][:'(]


The policy of no explicit pictures on first click of a profile probably has more to do with issues of site liability and overall site atmosphere management decisions than it does about offending individuals who are voluntarily choosing to participate on an adult site.

The bottom line is we would all be impacted in ways that might not be immediately obvious, if this particular rule was not enforced.  And that's really the issue, not so much the fact that some individuals may be offended.  That may be true, but not nearly as relevant.



quite frankly someone exposing him- or herself that way in their profile does not bother me...as that at least shows me to hide it straight away as I would not be interested in a guy anyway who considers his dick as being the most beautiful part of his body...however, here on the message board I still consider it inappropriate and could not care less if it is an adult page or not...everything has it's time and it's place and that explicit pics on here is not the right place for them IMO...

apart from that, as some folks know I am not offended from such pics in general...but just because it is an adult side does not mean you have to be surrounded by others private parts all the time...that quite frankly would lower the niveau on here for me...just my .2.




Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Does anyone know if we are allowed to post links to a donation site in our journal posts? (5/26/2010 1:35:52 PM)

 if she wants to have naked photo's up. It's her right, as long as the sites TOS allows it.
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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

Put some clothes on honey... or did you need us to send you some money so you can afford them?




RedMagic1 -> RE: Does anyone know if we are allowed to post links to a donation site in our journal posts? (5/26/2010 1:38:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: eibhlinauvert
I wont be answering any more questions posed to me,

Heh.  You never answered any of the questions I posed to you, though this is now at least your third statement on this thread that you will be shutting up any minute now.  I wonder if you are physically capable of it.




Lucienne -> RE: Does anyone know if we are allowed to post links to a donation site in our journal posts? (5/26/2010 1:46:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Phoenixpower

since when has a bdsm side to be tasteless???


Oh my.  I don't know that drawing the line at exposed genitalia in primary pics qualifies one as tasteful.

I don't object to the policy. But I do find it funny when people get all snooty about the infractions. I mean.. there's a lot of unattractive pictures around here. I guess the explicit photos don't bother me because I have to turn off the revulsion effect whenever I log on here.

Sincerely,

Snooty girl who spends all her time in the library and slightly turns up her nose while passing the cool kids on her way to the bathroom to sneak a cig.[;)]




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