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cpl4third -> RE: Notice: People are full of shit (5/25/2010 11:29:23 AM)

Here's a more precise example.

Looking at profiles, I come across a 21 yo female who became a single parent at age 19. She made a life choice. Already, she is swimming upstream against half of society that frowns on that sort of thing. The other half of society couldn't give a shit.

She now has another mouth to feed and care for, hopefully (but not likely) on her own dime. Then she makes another life choice to plaster her body with tattoos, and install enough metal in her body to trip airport metal detectors. Maybe she liked the thrill of the pain, who knows. Now, she has made another life choice that has disqualified herself from holding any sort of job that pays well enough to *successfully* struggle with her previous life choice, that of being a single mom. I mean, seriously, the world only needs so many 911 dispatchers sitting in a windowless (to society) room, where only the voice counts. Most respectable, well paying jobs need the pleasant visual, too.

So, she migrates to the bdsm world, a place where nobody is supposed to judge anyone. What a cute little safe haven. That big, bad world is so far away from them now.  They create a profile and offer to be a sex slave in exchange for someone paying their way in this life. They don't even try to enter a relationship where they *hope* to meet a guy who doesn't want his wife to work, rather they go into it with the expectation of not working broadcast up front. They just want to be a parasite, someone who will be available sexually to someone in trade. (and some of you think guys like me have an esteem problem?) They find safe haven on these forums, where the forum queens with 64,934 posts who are in their 40's today probably were that 21 year old girl 20+ years ago. The old heads tell the young ones how nobody in this lifestyle is a personal failure, and everyone is 'special' in their own way.

Not satisfied with just that, they put a faux-legal notice on their profiles, affirming they are not a guinea pig to a society that threw them away 6 bad life choices ago.

I see it everyday on these forums and on the profiles on this site.

As long as its not my relationship, or society isn't forcing me to pay the bills of someone else's fucked up life choices, I could care less, as its none of my business. Unfortunately for you, the latter is becoming increasingly more common, so get used to my opinions, like today's exercise, being in your face.





mnottertail -> RE: Notice: People are full of shit (5/25/2010 11:40:23 AM)

did it say that she would blow 24/7/365 for that money?  cmail me with the details. I'm so fucking in if she has a good mouth.




RedMagic1 -> RE: Notice: People are full of shit (5/25/2010 11:41:31 AM)

I don't believe in throwing people away.  Single mothers have just as much right to seek love and security as childless bachelors do.

Sit back for a minute and think about this site.  This is a "hobby project" run on a shoestring and staffed by volunteers.  And yet, it's probably responsible for more kinky longterm relationships and marriages than Alt, bondage.com and FetLife, combined.  The owner of CM has probably helped more kinky people find love than any other person currently alive.  And some of those kinky people have been single mothers.

Your bitterness stems from someplace inside you, not from some sickness on this web site.




ShaharThorne -> RE: Notice: People are full of shit (5/25/2010 11:58:51 AM)

[sm=applause.gif]

Now..where did I put the tiger balm?

<----- Is such a sadomachostic slut




Lockit -> RE: Notice: People are full of shit (5/25/2010 11:59:03 AM)

I love how it is always the fault of the single mother for being a single mother. Like sex leads to some things and there were two to start with. Some pregnancy cannot be stopped for medical reasons before conception and after and where is the sperm donor when the single mom becomes a mom? She is most often a single mom because once the sperm has been donated, the donor disappears.

cpl4third, while there may be some merit to some of what you are saying, you are leaving out a whole lot of factoids that need to be considered if you are going to label the single parent. The single parent may have a great deal to face and many challenges and that could lead to a lot of pressure, extreme situations and life choices that could go off from there.

Until you actually know what the hell you are talking about, you might not spout off so much, trying to educate the world on your bitterness.

While single mom is facing the world on an uphill, single and wayward dad may be off building a wonderful life for himself. If he stuck around, you and other's might not be paying for the helps that young single mother is going to need, however little or much that is. Being a single mother can cause a lot of things and they often are forced to find their way however that can come about and sometimes that means getting into men, situations or other things as a part of the survival and acceptance of it all.

Now godly one who never got pregnant or even risked it, I am sure you had sex before you were prepared to have a baby. Until you are walking in the shoes of a single mother and know it all, you might consider that you don't know it all.




cpl4third -> RE: Notice: People are full of shit (5/25/2010 12:11:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

I don't believe in throwing people away.  Single mothers have just as much right to seek love and security as childless bachelors do.


I have nothing against struggling single mothers. But there is a difference between "throwing people away" and people simply not trying to participate and refusing to be held up to their responsibilities who deserve to be thrown away.

I have no problem with a June and Ward Cleaver lifestyle. But June wasn't on her back getting fucked and pregnant at age 19, and when she first met Ward, she didn't matter-of-factly state "I'm going to stay at home and not work at all -  live with it". And June didnt have a CM-type web resource where everybody on the forums kept telling her how special she was for getting pregnant at 19 and who reinforced her lazyassed-ness.

(that ought to be enough new visuals for the peanut gallery to comment on)




jbcurious -> RE: Notice: People are full of shit (5/25/2010 12:11:47 PM)

...and wasn't she ingenius managing to get pregnant all by her self...possibly the second coming? It's men like you who create half of these situations blithly sticking their dick into any hole that becomes available and not stepping up or expecting other men to step up and take responsibility for their children.

The girl at 19 would have had little more then a high school education, so a few piercings or tatoos isn't what's standing in the way of her getting a decent job...she doesn't seem to have much in the way of family support...so what kind of up bringing has she had that has left her in the position she finds herself in?

It's so easy to sit in judgement of others who may not have been blessed with a good upbringing, a decent level of intellect or a good education.




Lockit -> RE: Notice: People are full of shit (5/25/2010 12:15:16 PM)

cpl4third, I don't know how old you are, but back in the day of June and Ward, the June's were typically on their back by nineteen, getting fucked and pregnant. Hell, many schools had to figure out how to handle the married and pregnant high school student. People married very young to justify the sex they claimed they weren't having.

Get your factoids straight.




sirsholly -> RE: Notice: People are full of shit (5/25/2010 12:27:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cpl4third

Here's a more precise example.

Looking at profiles, I come across a 21 yo female who became a single parent at age 19. She made a life choice. Already, she is swimming upstream against half of society that frowns on that sort of thing. The other half of society couldn't give a shit.
Really? So one half of society is against her, and the other half is ambivalent. I assume you talked to her and there is absolutely no support...family, friends, parents, family of the baby?
Oh wait...the only thing you did was read her profile? So the two halves of society you describe...total bullshit.
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She now has another mouth to feed and care for, hopefully (but not likely) on her own dime. Then she makes another life choice to plaster her body with tattoos, and install enough metal in her body to trip airport metal detectors. Maybe she liked the thrill of the pain, who knows. Now, she has made another life choice that has disqualified herself from holding any sort of job that pays well enough to *successfully* struggle with her previous life choice, that of being a single mom.
Really. Please site the source where you get the info that a single mom with ink and piercings is incapable of  successfully supporting and raising a child. Also site where she is automatically disqualified from holding a high paying job.
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I mean, seriously, the world only needs so many 911 dispatchers sitting in a windowless (to society) room, where only the voice counts. Most respectable, well paying jobs need the pleasant visual, too.
Ahh...all 911 dispatchers are single moms, tattooed, pierced and uneducated? Oh please!!!!!

Most respectable jobs are earned on education, as opposed to a pleasing visual. Luckily, employers are not sexist snobs such as yourself who require a pretty face.

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So, she migrates to the bdsm world, a place where nobody is supposed to judge anyone. What a cute little safe haven. That big, bad world is so far away from them now.
Hate to break it to ya, Ace...but us BDSMers LIVE in that big bad world along with everyone else.
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  They create a profile and offer to be a sex slave in exchange for someone paying their way in this life.
That does happen, although i am sure it is rare they are taken up on their offer.
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They don't even try to enter a relationship where they *hope* to meet a guy who doesn't want his wife to work, rather they go into it with the expectation of not working broadcast up front. They just want to be a parasite, someone who will be available sexually to someone in trade.
So all females who are single moms, tattooed and pierced, enter the BDSM world to become parasites. Wow. Who knew?
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(and some of you think guys like me have an esteem problem?)
Esteem? Try ignorance.
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They find safe haven on these forums, where the forum queens with 64,934 posts who are in their 40's today probably were that 21 year old girl 20+ years ago. The old heads tell the young ones how nobody in this lifestyle is a personal failure, and everyone is 'special' in their own way.
Damnit...this means i have over 30,000 posts and a few years to go until i can get my "form queen" crown?

Now...lemme tell you something, dude. No one that i have ever seen (and i have been here awhile) successfully "decides" to join the BDSM world because they are a societal misfit. True BDSMers are not made...they are born. Someone who thinks they will find a safe haven here is probably right, as we are a tolerant bunch, but when they actually attempt to LIVE it and be something they are not...it will crash in on them.

Your stance on a young woman joining a BDSM community is as stupid as a heterosexual deciding he/she belongs in a homosexual community as a societal escape. Certainly there will be acceptance, but when push comes to shove, there will be no happiness.
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Not satisfied with just that, they put a faux-legal notice on their profiles, affirming they are not a guinea pig to a society that threw them away 6 bad life choices ago.

I see it everyday on these forums and on the profiles on this site.
They can put anything they want on their profile within the guidelines of the TOS. It is only a certain few fools such as yourself that pays any attention to it.

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As long as its not my relationship, or society isn't forcing me to pay the bills of someone else's fucked up life choices, I could care less, as its none of my business.
Whoppee...you'll shut up now?
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Unfortunately for you, the latter is becoming increasingly more common, so get used to my opinions, like today's exercise, being in your face.
Nope...not unfortunately for us. See...what you are not realizing is most of us are intelligent, highly educated, savvy, individuals who possess a great deal of common sense. Let the players play. They will not make it to half time.






RedMagic1 -> RE: Notice: People are full of shit (5/25/2010 12:28:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cpl4third
June didnt have a CM-type web resource where everybody on the forums kept telling her how special she was for getting pregnant at 19 and who reinforced her lazyassed-ness.

It is more internally consistent to be a young female sub with a seeking-acceptance fetish than it is to be a middle-aged male dom with a public-humiliation fetish.




sirsholly -> RE: Notice: People are full of shit (5/25/2010 12:31:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

Sit back for a minute and think about this site.  This is a "hobby project" run on a shoestring and staffed by volunteers.  And yet, it's probably responsible for more kinky longterm relationships and marriages than Alt, bondage.com and FetLife, combined.  The owner of CM has probably helped more kinky people find love than any other person currently alive. 

And geez...are we ever grateful for that!!

JimAndHolly
Met here almost 7 yrs ago
Married 5 yrs





cpl4third -> RE: Notice: People are full of shit (5/25/2010 12:33:10 PM)

You are obsessing on the single parenthood thing.  There are plenty of people with parasite profiles on here where single parenthood is not involved.

Plus, I'm sure there are an equal number of guys on here who are parasites. We just went through a recession where men were disproportionately targeted for layoff, primarily because the remaining big employers are looking to create their own "chinese labor force" right here at home using lesser paid women as the backbone.




Lockit -> RE: Notice: People are full of shit (5/25/2010 12:33:18 PM)

[sm=applause.gif][sm=applause.gif][sm=applause.gif][sm=applause.gif][sm=applause.gif] Holly!






Jeffff -> RE: Notice: People are full of shit (5/25/2010 12:34:40 PM)

I don't ever notice Jim being grateful.......


just sayin'




purepleasure -> RE: Notice: People are full of shit (5/25/2010 12:34:46 PM)

How did this get turned into a "pick on single moms" thread?

I'm a single mom.  I've never been married, nor have I ever lived with or sponged off anyone to support me or my now adult son.  Nor did I depend on "society" to support us. 

So before you go lumping all single mothers into the same category,  check your facts.

As far as the disclaimer some people chose to include in their profile....  so fucking what?  It's their profile, and why do you care what they include in it?  If it makes them feel important, even if in their own eyes, why does it make a difference to you?  If someone, anyone, does not believe they are important to themself, who else can they possibly be important to?




Lockit -> RE: Notice: People are full of shit (5/25/2010 12:35:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cpl4third

You are obsessing on the single parenthood thing.  There are plenty of people with parasite profiles on here where single parenthood is not involved.



Like your own? You created that profile to come bitch about other people. You are one funny dude and I am done with you. Ignorance is sometimes a choice. Bad choice dude.




jbcurious -> RE: Notice: People are full of shit (5/25/2010 12:38:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: cpl4third

You are obsessing on the single parenthood thing.  There are plenty of people with parasite profiles on here where single parenthood is not involved.

Plus, I'm sure there are an equal number of guys on here who are parasites. We just went through a recession where men were disproportionately targeted for layoff, primarily because the remaining big employers are looking to create their own "chinese labor force" right here at home using lesser paid women as the backbone.





Jeffff -> RE: Notice: People are full of shit (5/25/2010 12:45:20 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: purepleasure

How did this get turned into a "pick on single moms" thread?

I'm a single mom.  I've never been married, nor have I ever lived with or sponged off anyone to support me or my now adult son.  Nor did I depend on "society" to support us. 

So before you go lumping all single mothers into the same category,  check your facts.

As far as the disclaimer some people chose to include in their profile....  so fucking what?  It's their profile, and why do you care what they include in it?  If it makes them feel important, even if in their own eyes, why does it make a difference to you?  If someone, anyone, does not believe they are important to themself, who else can they possibly be important to?



So then.... you are pretty easy.....right?




purepleasure -> RE: Notice: People are full of shit (5/25/2010 12:47:05 PM)

I used to be.

Now, I'm just expensive.  Like an ex-wife.




Phoenixpower -> RE: Notice: People are full of shit (5/25/2010 12:48:12 PM)

what a boring and bitter OP *yawn*




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