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Rothschilds: UK should privatize motorway - 5/26/2010 4:55:28 AM   
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why not?
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RE: Rothschilds: UK should privatize motorway - 5/26/2010 5:00:26 AM   
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RE: Rothschilds: UK should privatize motorway - 5/26/2010 5:32:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		They're trying that shit here as well. The problem is how to make money. That means just about every road is a toll road.

If there's anything that needs to be stopped dead in it's fucking tracks it is this.

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RE: Rothschilds: UK should privatize motorway - 5/26/2010 6:10:09 AM   
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LMAO!      Gotta love this version better write up.  

The Rothschilds are perhaps the most larcenous banking family in history, a dynasty that has routinely made vast fortunes from economic collapses it personally engineered, such as the massive London stock market crash during the battle of Waterloo.


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RE: Rothschilds: UK should privatize motorway - 5/26/2010 6:12:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		Britons already pay road tax as well as local council tax which is supposed to go towards the cost of maintaining roads and motorways, but will be forced to pay even more on private-owned toll roads if this scheme goes ahead, having their living standards reduced yet further as a fresh wave of tax increases for the “middle class” is readied by the new government. The “middle class” is defined as anyone barely scraping a living, since the hikes will affect people who earn just £20,000 a year./snip


Well well-   Tell your Queen THAT!

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RE: Rothschilds: UK should privatize motorway - 5/26/2010 6:26:17 AM   
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Britons already pay road tax as well as local council tax which is supposed to go towards the cost of maintaining roads and motorways, but will be forced to pay even more on private-owned toll roads

And?  We do that already.  Hunky ya sweet an all but ya really should understand about something before you comment about it, no?
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The “middle class” is defined as anyone barely scraping a living, since the hikes will affect people who earn just £20,000 a year./snip


Where did you get that definition of 'middle class'? Salary doesn't come into it when defining class (traditionally) but occupation, well in it does in the UK anyhoo.

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RE: Rothschilds: UK should privatize motorway - 5/26/2010 6:38:20 AM   
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RE: Rothschilds: UK should privatize motorway - 5/26/2010 6:41:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have used only one toll road, a bit of motorway that avoides the disaster where the M6 meets the M5 and the M40 and whatever other road pour into that well known disaster area. It cost me £1.50, but boy was it worth it, open road at last resulting in less stress, risk of collision and obviously less pollutants from a car that is not engaged in stop start living on the brakes type driving, the type that often leads to collisions. In that area, collision and the resulting bottlenecks are a common occurrence, as are the inevitable and constant road works with miles of coned off areas with nothing much happening.

But motorways, I believe the public purse paid for them, therefore they cannot be sold off to a buyer who wished to charge us for using them, if they are sold, then they are being sold by persons who do not own them. If toll roads do for whatever reason become the norm, then there are always alternatives to motorways and often those alternatives are a much more interesting drive.

As to those who argue other routes should not be used n lieu of motorways, what they have to understand, is that a road that runs from point A to point B is not there for the hell of it, it is a viable route for the purpose of vehicular travel, therefore I am one who is against this notion of the so called rat run.

Of course the usual complaint with alternative to motorways is the use of excessive speed, but that can be tackled, congestion on alternative routes, well it's a road, and if it is used, it can be subject to both congestion and the open road scenario.


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RE: Rothschilds: UK should privatize motorway - 5/26/2010 6:43:22 AM   
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-- I thought gas was taxed high in the UK?


And so are eggs, what's that got to do with it?
Hunkie, you haven't answered my questions - it's cool if you don't want to but talking silliness to cover it up doesn't work.

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RE: Rothschilds: UK should privatize motorway - 5/26/2010 6:56:15 AM   
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-- I thought gas was taxed high in the UK?


And so are eggs, what's that got to do with it?
Hunkie, you haven't answered my questions - it's cool if you don't want to but talking silliness to cover it up doesn't work.

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Dude-  those roads are YOURS.   Dont be a fool.

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RE: Rothschilds: UK should privatize motorway - 5/26/2010 6:58:44 AM   
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How would you like that?

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RE: Rothschilds: UK should privatize motorway - 5/26/2010 7:09:08 AM   
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Dude-  those roads are YOURS.   Dont be a fool.



Hunkie, the term is dudette
Now I take it you do not wish to respond to the question of how much you really understand about taxes and roads here in the UK - and from your posts I must presume you know little.  It's all cool, ya dig?

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RE: Rothschilds: UK should privatize motorway - 5/26/2010 7:23:20 AM   
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Dude-  those roads are YOURS.   Dont be a fool.



Hunkie, the term is dudette
Now I take it you do not wish to respond to the question of how much you really understand about taxes and roads here in the UK - and from your posts I must presume you know little.  It's all cool, ya dig?

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The snip was from the link.

I never been out of North America.

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RE: Rothschilds: UK should privatize motorway - 5/26/2010 10:08:22 AM   
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Cons are right by british standards, but not THAT right. I also like the way 20,000 is classed as 'barely scraping a living'. IIRC the AVERAGE wage is less than that.

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RE: Rothschilds: UK should privatize motorway - 5/26/2010 10:12:28 AM   
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Optomistic ain't they?

Cons are right by british standards, but not THAT right. I also like the way 20,000 is classed as 'barely scraping a living'. IIRC the AVERAGE wage is less than that.



Well my personal experience is that in my life in Germany we had a much bigger middle class in regards to income (not saying that I can back this up with statistics, but that's how it feels to me)....whereas over here it feels for me more that you either have little or a lot (though I know "lot" depends on the individual definition)...but in general with most jobs back home I have - IMO - a nice middle income...whereas over here....it ain't that easy to have an income with which you can live as comfortable and get as far as I used to back home with my middle-income-job...if that makes sense to anyone

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RE: Rothschilds: UK should privatize motorway - 5/26/2010 10:22:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Most crowded significant nation in Europe, cost of living is higher.....especially in the south east. In London, I guess 20k could be accurately described as scraping due to housing cost.....where I am, 20k is nice wage.

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RE: Rothschilds: UK should privatize motorway - 5/26/2010 10:31:21 AM   
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Most crowded significant nation in Europe, cost of living is higher.....especially in the south east. In London, I guess 20k could be accurately described as scraping due to housing cost.....where I am, 20k is nice wage.


well but even in london 20k would already be nice for many...I only have them when I work many more extra hours each month ... and I mean "many"...however if I finish uni this summer then I jump up between 27 and 30

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RE: Rothschilds: UK should privatize motorway - 5/26/2010 10:47:50 AM   
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RE: Rothschilds: UK should privatize motorway - 5/26/2010 10:58:29 AM   
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But motorways, I believe the public purse paid for them, therefore they cannot be sold off to a buyer who wished to charge us for using them, if they are sold, then they are being sold by persons who do not own them.

I remember that objection being cited whenever the last two Tory governments privatised a public service: it seems particularly germane to british rail being broken up and sold off in the mid '90s.

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RE: Rothschilds: UK should privatize motorway - 5/26/2010 11:00:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		I guess I dont fully grasp the privatize one area- but nationalize another - only that the peons get screwed.

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