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crazyml -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/28/2010 1:20:34 AM)
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barelynangel,
Thanks for responding, on this occasion. I'm sorry if the formatting of my response irritates you, and I am thankful that on this occasion you were prepared to indulge me. I would say that, and I do this with the greatest respect of course, that you're confusing "debate" with nit-picking. While you have attempted to craft a single concept - I saw a number of issues with it and sought to debate them with you. Not in a snarky, childish way, but in an attempt to explore your argument. If you don't wish to participate in a discussion, don't feel under any obligation to respond.
To your first point, you acknowledge that in the example I gave you may conclude the person was nuts but, as I understand it, you object to the notion of telling them you think so. That's fair enough of course, but I just don't see why you're so against the idea of someone else choosing to express that opinion on the boards. Like you I do occasionally just shrug... something seems too absurd or too silly to merit commenting on.
At other times I express my opinion - which may be right or wrong of course - and in doing so I'm simply participating. Yes, at the end of the day - it's a little hard to justify giving more than a rats arse for what a total stranger thinks, but the whole point of the forum is to generate discussion so if we all simply shrugged it'd be a pretty quiet place.
I certainly don't sit at home biting my nails trying to make the anonymous nickname talk to me, and I'm surprised that you were able to infer that from my comments.
To your second point, the reason I asked for examples of people attacking someone's mental health in order to further their point (or clique) is that I simply haven't seen any. Yes, I absolutely have seen examples of cliquism, but this thread is specifically about the use of attacks on someone's mental health to further arguments.
You have way more experience of this board than I, and perhaps you follow a broader range of topics than I do, so had you been able to point me to a single example your argument would have been considerably stronger. But, it's true - you're under no obligation at all to give a fig about what I think, or to substantiate your point with evidence.
On point three, isn't the idea of having different standards for friends vs non friends vs enemies a pretty "normal" behaviour within groups? I'm not suggesting it's right, and you may have much more self discipline than I, but I will certainly admit to giving greater credence and respect to the things a friend says than a total stranger (not withstanding proper full-on experts - I'm going to take Einstein over my mate Bill on the topic of physics any day).
4 and 5 - I'm not trying to play games at all, or make it "about you", except insofar as I'm responding to your post. I was simply pointing out that having objected to strenuously to people making unqualified diagnoses – You diagnosed “insecurity”, that it's an “superiority complex” and that people need to “validate themselves”. Can you not see how I might interpret this as a little hypocritical? The hypocrisy is slightly compounded by the fact that you seem quite happy to resort to the“making it about you” tactic yourself.
To your last point, I'm sorry that my comment about the frustration and anger I saw in your OP, left you incredulous, I would say first that, the frustration and anger seems pretty evident. Indeed I'm bound to point out that your response to my reply comes across as pretty angry too. I didn't suggest that I see it in your posts generally but that is certainly the impression I've got from your initial post and your reply to me on this thread. Importantly – I didn't say that your frustration and anger is unjustified, or try to belittle it.
At the end of the day, you make a great point about the fact that we are essentially all total strangers. Although over time I'm getting to know a few of the regulars here a little better from their posts, their responses to me and so on. So ultimately it really doesn't matter all that much to me if you dislike what I have to say, or that I may disagree with you on this point – We're total strangers, and you can rest assured that I won't be sitting at home biting my nails in expectation of your response. Nor do I imagine for a second that you'll be doing any nail-biting either.
I may conclude that you're a childish, arrogant, and excessively defensive person, and you may conclude that I'm a pompous, self-important, nit-picker - and ya know, that's perfectly ok.
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