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pahunkboy -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/28/2010 9:45:54 AM)

Holly?

What did you do with the horse?




sirsholly -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/28/2010 9:52:52 AM)


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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Holly?

What did you do with the horse?
I sold it on EBay.

Anyone know where I can get a really big box?




Phoenixpower -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/28/2010 9:54:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: sirsholly


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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Holly?

What did you do with the horse?
I sold it on EBay.

Anyone know where I can get a really big box?


In your mailbox [>:][>:][>:]




pahunkboy -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/28/2010 9:54:44 AM)

I love ebay!!!    




Phoenixpower -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/28/2010 9:55:19 AM)


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ORIGINAL: domiguy


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ORIGINAL: barelynangel

Thanks Rule, its appreciated.


What happened to Rule. He is unfit to lead.


he got waxed [:)]




DesFIP -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/28/2010 3:26:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
The simple fact is that if someone expresses the desire to commit suicide they don't really want to do it, they are crying out because they can't handle life.


That's a fallacy. People who have thoughts or plans for suicide are at higher risk. It's a psychiatric emergency. If you assume they won't do it and don't call for help, then you bear the guilt when they do it.

And if someone had staged an intervention six DUIs ago, you wouldn't be facing jail now.




ShoreBound149 -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/28/2010 3:54:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sirsholly
Anyone know where I can get a really big box?


See Marie.




jin99 -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/28/2010 6:26:52 PM)

Termy8tor,

I enjoyed your thoughtful post, but I must object to your theory of tough love and not being able to handle life. If the afflicted person you truly care about, would you give hand him or her a razor and say "go slit your wrist?" I've met gifted people who has every reason to be happy, but they're not, and they consistently make decisions that would hurt them in the end and the only thing that could stop them from doing so is a bottle of prescription. Is there anything wrong with that? I've met bipolars and schizos. They are not bitchers, moaners, or softies, they're sufferers and they didn't choose a damned thing to cause cause it.

Sorry to hear about your financial and health woes. In some situations, you have to wonder if the people who manages to stay sane and happy are the insane ones.




Termyn8or -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/28/2010 7:55:37 PM)

Extremely Fast Response about the fucking gold and silver :

http://www.collarchat.com/m_1565420/tm.htm

Read the fucking title of this tread. This IS NOT thread drift, this is bullshit. Bring up music=gold and silver. Bring up movies=gold and silver. Bring up mental issues=gold and silver. Bring up any goddamn thing you can possibly think of, even foot fungus, somehow it has something to do with gold and silver.

Well I am fucking sick of it and if you know what's good for you, you won't be asking about what happened to the author of the post in that link, "Mod 11".

T

Had to edit to add : OK, about the foot fungus, a silver solution might actually be of use. I just didn't want people to think that I would dismiss that on these grounds. If you don't know what I mean I just don't know what to tell you.

T




Termyn8or -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/29/2010 1:48:50 AM)

Aaaaa jin, you expect a prompt response, see mail.

"would you give hand him or her a razor and say "go slit your wrist?" "

That can be a hard question, because if I thought they were really going to do it right then and there I would have to say no. I would wield the implement, but not hand it to them if they are hitting the rock bottom of a manic depressive episode. Some people when they are in that stage are in so deep of a hole that it would be wrong. The presence of the implement is a tool for prevention. You see I cannot control every knife, gun and drug out there. Their decision has to come from within. When I contemplated it myself, it was me who stopped me, and that is how it must be for them.

Now when someone is whiney about life, that is a different story. I've been up all night with people who were on the brink, or at least I percieved that. But I have true scenarios to spell for them, that make those individuals reconsider in a hurry, especially when a gun is right in my hand, waiting to be turned over to them, IF THEY CAN MAKE THEIR CASE. But they never can of course and if all else fails there is always tomorrow. Tell them that you'll go with it tomorrow - maybe. You ain't conviced yet. Tell them how they could be some foreign bitch with five kids, pregnant and about to be deported, no car no money no nothing, three guys raping her every week and the authorities looking the other way, and being a smack addict on top of it so you have AIDS and are going to die and just looking for a high. The TV is your only friend and you are a butt ugly bitch.

Now that's pretty bad, most people don't live down to that, so what do they say now ? You have the strength to scatter your brains all over my house but you don't have the balls to face just one more day on this fucked up planet ? You don't even have one day to think about maybe doing some good in the world ? Volunteer at a shelter or some shit like that ? See who REALLY has it bad. And they ain't looking to kill themselves.

I am fucking good at this, but I have lost the battle a couple of times. It kinda hurts, I can't say it hurts but it certainly doesn't feel good. But I am not satisfied to let someone out of my perview until they are right on the brink. They pick up that gun I will show them how to use it. I can get away with this but, neither here nor there. I will show them the pistol, cock it, and fire it out the window. Then I will INSIST that they put the barrell in their mouth with it fully cocked. Then I will make a move like towards the trigger, saying "How about if I just .....". They will resist, pull the gun out their mouth and maybe scream or something. But then and only then can I say that they are safe to be on their own.

"that could stop them from doing so is a bottle of prescription. Is there anything wrong with that? "

Yes. In my view it is a fate worse than death to be that dependant on a drug. For me I include all of it, but I can't make that decision for others. I will never let a mind altering drug enter my system unles I now exactly what it will do to me. Luckily my recreational drugs are quite familiar to me, and I use them, not abuse them. Mom taught me that I can get as high as I want but my problems will still be there in the morning. She gets smarter every day, even if she just sleeps all day, she is old. Well in respect I must say she is GETTING old.

"Sorry to hear about your financial and health woes. In some situations, you have to wonder if the people who manages to stay sane and happy are the insane ones. "

I have asserted almost the same idea more than once. Even with a fine life if one knows of all the nastiness going on in the world it is hard to be happy. If one sees what is happening to the economy, environment and society it is quite unsetlling. Now I can go get a scrip to make me not care and stay on that for the rest of my life. I will be "happy". But if I burn one nd just have a break from it, and let my mind calm down, I know the problem still exists. But now I can think about it  bit more rationally.

That is why my kind does not embrace modern chemistry when it comes to health.

And I have been accused of being a bigot and who the hell knows what else, but I am different, so are my cousins and my sisiter, who I endearingly call my sinister. Maybe it is not that everyone else is different, maybe I am different. I can accept that.

But now this raises the question, since I am so different, is that the definition of mentally ill ?

T




SlaveMatrimonial -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/29/2010 3:01:27 AM)

Psychiatry is very much a medical speciality into inventing false illnesses in order to justify their existance and  empower them to infringe the rights of citizens by often falsely imprisonig them without due process. Some psychiatric illnesses are indeed genuine but those are linked to physical illnesses and part of the symptomology. Another area of pretention is the personality disorder, that brings them lucrative employment. Everyone on earth can be said to have a personality disorder or even several at once. These are just variable traits within the wide spectrum of human behaviour and though processes. Until the law on restraint and seclusion was changed, many people were actually abducted against their will and taken to psychiatric hospitals and kept there until there insurabnce ran out then  booted back out again. A well publisised insurance practice to earn big profits for the owners or directors of such institutions. Also Psychiatric Nurses actually do very little actual nursing, they are little more than guards and torturers who  observe and explouit patient vunerabilities aniolently at the least excuse.




sunshinemiss -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/29/2010 3:15:02 AM)

Well Matrimonial,
I once thought as you seem to. And then I got a job in a psychiatric hospital and other mental health programs. I'm the one who interviewed people to "falsely imprison" them.

The people I know who have worked in those settings are people of good conscience. They take their power seriously. I certainly did. In fact, I kept a mirror on my desk as a reminder that I must always be able to look in it. Psychiatric issues are much deeper than just medication or inhospitalization. Sometimes, thankfully, a short stay in a hospital with a meds adjustment will cure what ails you, and sometimes it won't.

I'm sorry you are so bitter about it. I have seen first hand how psychiatry can help people. And yes, I've seen how it can hurt. All in all it tends to balance on the side of good - at least from my experience.

YMMV,
sunshine




pahunkboy -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/29/2010 4:09:37 AM)

Term,

You defined yourself as a problem solver.

Your time has come.    You have a unique mission to solve problems.   It would help for you to rediscover the "can do" that is in you- rather then this current road you are on.

In time- you will.   (hopefully)






sirsholly -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/29/2010 5:02:00 AM)

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Psychiatry is very much a medical speciality into inventing false illnesses in order to justify their existance and empower them to infringe the rights of citizens by often falsely imprisonig them without due process.
just. shakes. head.




Aylee -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/29/2010 7:25:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sirsholly

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Psychiatry is very much a medical speciality into inventing false illnesses in order to justify their existance and empower them to infringe the rights of citizens by often falsely imprisonig them without due process.
just. shakes. head.


Holly, you are mentally ill.  Come to my house so that I can imprison you in my bedroom.  *leer*




sirsholly -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/29/2010 7:27:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: sirsholly

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Psychiatry is very much a medical speciality into inventing false illnesses in order to justify their existance and empower them to infringe the rights of citizens by often falsely imprisonig them without due process.
just. shakes. head.


Holly, you are mentally ill.  Come to my house so that I can imprison you in my bedroom.  *leer*
just me, or can the rest of my personalities come too?[:)]




Aylee -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/29/2010 7:29:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sirsholly

just me, or can the rest of my personalities come too?[:)]



The more the merrier!  [:)]




pahunkboy -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/29/2010 8:15:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sirsholly

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: sirsholly

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Psychiatry is very much a medical speciality into inventing false illnesses in order to justify their existance and empower them to infringe the rights of citizens by often falsely imprisonig them without due process.
just. shakes. head.


Holly, you are mentally ill.  Come to my house so that I can imprison you in my bedroom.  *leer*
just me, or can the rest of my personalities come too?[:)]



I like the gold print on that blouse you are wearing.




ShaharThorne -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/29/2010 8:28:22 AM)

Damn it man..Ever hearrd of double spacing?

I am a mental case, have been since I was a child but discovered recently in the 30s.It took quite a few years of finding the right regime of drugs so I can be staple, I recently got my case heard in front of a admin. judge to see how fucked up I was with I has dosed up on my drugs (took my meds beffore going in front of him because I was nervous as hell facing him). He declared as disabiled on the spot.

I was able to pay my representave for the case off ($222), get a new computer for myself, got satillate IP, gave a few dollars to my baby brother so his house was not forclosed on. gave mom a few thousand to pay off a credit card. had shoppimg spree and got myself MP3 player that actually work and have been buying mucis for the said plsyer. got groceries and a vacuum cleaner for Bo's place, with the reminder not to let anyone borrow it since they are the who turn up the last one. Had chinese and pizzy delivered.

during this coming weekend, I will pay for an anime convention for Lizard and her BF. the room has a pulled out sofa so he can sleep on it (I know teenagers they want to sleep with each other). When she gets sleepy and her BF is over, he lays down besides her with clothes on.

After that weekend. Lizard and I are going to attack her bedroom. Clothes too small and in decent condition goes to charity, small and is worse condition get to be trashed. I am spending some time with her until summer school starts. I hope we can go watch Prince of Persia.

If you cn't tell, I am bipolar with racing thoughts...it shows as breaking off of seentences, switching of topicsof awful need for water...LOL!




Termyn8or -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/29/2010 8:42:07 AM)

Now Holly and Aylee, that is not a hijack. I am truly dominant by nature, but the total abandon of being restrained, to not be responsible for my own self for a time is an escape, better than any drug. Remember I am dominant, but to bottom, well, when the chains go on it is almost as if they have just come off. For some, bondage is freedom. But eventually the chains come off the arms and legs, and it is as if I can almost feel a big chain once again wrapped around my brain.

In other words the escape did nothing to solve any of my problems. It was just a rest period. Like the time between rounds in my prizefight with the world. Why must it be so ? I can't say, but this world is an ugly fucked up place. The only real solution is to become strong enough to cope with it without a constant buzz or whatever, whether from a bottle or a bag - even the toy bag. A vacation is just that, it is by nature temporary. The only way any form of escape is gainful is that one can step back, have a look at the bigger picture and regroup. Maybe think of a new angle from which to attack their problems.

That's the nice thing about illiocit drugs, they CAN'T be a permanent solution, but a doctor's drugs supposedly can. That is where I break from the mainstream. I can't stay high or drunk all the time anymore than I could stay chained up all the time, although they used to do that..........

Perhaps I am mentally ill, I will accept that possibility, but then I also embrace the possibility that I am one the the very very rare truly sane. However if sanity is so rare, by definition, well when do the black sheep become normal and the white sheep become all wrong ?

T




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