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ShaharThorne -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/29/2010 9:01:20 AM)
Baaa...baaa...baaa...herds the sheep over to Term's house With me, I deal with a case worker, a nurse, a nurse praticater(?) the main doctor. Nice and neat chain of command. If I have an eposide (?), I am to call the crisis line first...if I can find that card...(has lost it in her purse). If the sight of shadows became real and making me fear my life, I am to call them. Those who see the shadows are sane...leaders come from the hearers... *steps into a pattle of sheep... Oh shit...

Termyn8or -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/29/2010 9:10:30 AM)
Matri....; the sheer existence of preludants (HK could help with the spelling) is proof. In younger days we used them as speed. They consisted of a very powerful amphetamine coated with a very powerfu barbituate. Given to "patients" the night before the sanity hearing they would sleep like a baby, and wake up all jittery and possibly paranoid. We used to wash the barbituate off and just take the speed part. Three of them babies and you are up for three days and you can actually drink yourself sober. Fun days of the past, but that was then. Now I have done this and am aware of the effects, and if they tried it on me I might be able to handle it. But think of someone who has never expoerimented with such a drug, they might even question their own sanity, because that is a very powerful drug. Usually when they want to lock someone away, there is more to it than just the insurance money, there is some other motive. In most cases that would be a malicious spouse or other relative vying for a POA or other form of control over another's wealth. I'm not saying that it happens every day, but the industry did create a near perfect tool for it. Why ? What possible use is a powerful barbituate with a time release extremely powerful amphetamine do for anyone with psychological problems ? You tell me. I can find no reason other than abuse, and by that I mean abuse by doctors, or actually MFs acting as doctors in such a case. I can easily support my case against the medical industry for anyone who would like to task me with that. They do have their uses, but for certain things I do not and will not seek their help. The best of psychologists will tell you that they don't heal anything, they induce the patient to heal themselves. At least that's the way it used to be. T

DesFIP -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/29/2010 2:37:02 PM)
Term, you are talking out of your hat. It is damn near impossible to get someone labelled incompetent. This includes patients suffering from dementia. My father can sometimes understand when you explain things to him. The fact that he can't remember them for ten minutes is immaterial. He has the ability to understand on occasion. He's had several occasions with the doctor that he didn't understand what he was there for. All that is negated by the one episode where he was coherent. You don't go in for one court hearing. You require a year or more worth of statements by lawyers, doctors, therapists etc. The court rules on the evidence and understands that in many cases the court hearing is so upsetting that a person will not be the same there as elsewhere. The fact that my dad has alcoholic dementia, well diagnosed for the past three years doesn't matter. Once during this past year he was coherent when the lawyer visited. As such she is required to testify for him to the court should it come to that. Even if we fired her, should she discover that a court hearing was to be held, she is required to show up and be a friend of the court, and tell her experiences.

DesFIP -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/29/2010 2:46:15 PM)
Shar, have you tried Seroquel for the racing thoughts? My daughter finds it and Lamictal are the miracle drugs. She cycled every five minutes prior to them. Oh and as for the evil mental hospital. Oh yes, very evil. A six week outpatient program, no medications forced on her. Just lots of therapy sessions, single and group and lots of assessment. And at the end of the six weeks in this evil place, the obviously torturous psychiatrist found a diagnosis. A very rare diagnosis of something she had never seen before but read of in the evil tomes. And the evil adolescent psychiatrist? Finest person I've met in years. And the evil psychiatrist she sees yearly now because her primary worries about not having one in case of an emergency, also an excellent person who I have recommended. Ditto for her therapist, a clinical psychologist who recommends different psychiatrists and also recommends who not to go to. Because just like hair stylists, some are better than others. As far as Term. Denial isn't just a river in Egypt. He doesn't want to get well, he doesn't want to face his pains. Because if he could have done all this he says he can do, then he would have. Instead he's still a drunk facing jail time.

pahunkboy -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/29/2010 2:49:25 PM)
ouch.

CoeurdObscurite -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/29/2010 9:39:17 PM)
If the worst you get accused of on the internet is being mentally ill, that's actually pretty tame. I mean, it's the fucking internet!

Dubbelganger -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/29/2010 10:01:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy What Angel says makes sense. That's one hell of an endorsement from someone who worships Lyndon LaRouche.

porcelaine -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/29/2010 10:16:25 PM)
crazyml, quote: I do believe that there is a higher than average incidence of disfunction within the BDSM community. I don't know this, but that is the impression that I have. I don't know what's in the air or if there's just a convergence that I clearly missed before but good friggin' grief. The really troubling thing is how some of this is perceived as normal and okay. quote: I regularly see profiles that, if genuine, are describing people who, in my unqualified and subjective opinion, would be far better served getting therapy than logging on to a kinky web site. I avoid profiles like the plague. Merely reading the musings is more than enough. As a matter of fact, what I read on the forums is generally more disconcerting than any profile I've encountered. I usually assume the latter is nonsense. But when I see consistency in trains of thought that are repeated you can't help but say hmmm. quote: I believe that there IS a line where a responsible person has a duty to ask "is this Sane?" If I need to ask that's a really big indicator I probably shouldn't be engaging with that person. I laugh a lot off but I surely don't send it email or dial it up on the phone. It definitely presents unique challenges from this vantage point which compelled me to make some radical changes in response. I can only shake my head and wish those on the hunt some much deserved good luck. ~porcelaine

ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/30/2010 12:20:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sirsholly quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy Holly? What did you do with the horse? I sold it on EBay. Anyone know where I can get a really big box? You could just get a lot of small or medium-sized boxes.

pahunkboy -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/30/2010 2:46:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Dubbelganger quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy What Angel says makes sense. That's one hell of an endorsement from someone who worships Lyndon LaRouche. I cant wait to suck his dick. I am horny.

SirPumpy -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/30/2010 3:27:05 AM)
I think im in luuuurv! The short version of this (My favourite) is usually along the lines of "Harden the fuck up".... You've obviously been there a fair bit to have the insight you've displayed in your post and it pretty much mirrors my own. Kudos quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or When someone sits here exhibiting the nigh fly zone of borderline manic deprssion, I tell them I don't want to fucking hear it becuse they will be here next week crying, whether or not conditions have changed significantly. When someone with ADD or ADHD interrupts me I perplex them by conveniently forgetting the answer to their question, and I will leave them hanging. Multiple DUIs, you just stop bailing them out of jail. Consequences teach. In no case is professional help needed. Been there done that. Trade the manic depression for a mind altering drug, trade the ADHD for ritalin, trade the alcohol for anabuse or who the hell knows. That is not our way. Someone shows up ready to kill themselves I'll get my gun out. If and when they can convince ME that it is time for them to check out for good, I'll hand them the implement. Yes, I contemplated suicide, years ago. I told noone, I did not issue a plea for help. I backed out at the last minute and had my moment, my realization that things could be worse. The main problem is that people can't handle life, and when you run into that, and it is real, the last thing you want to do is to attack someone's sanity. The simple fact is that if someone expresses the desire to commit suicide they don't really want to do it, they are crying out because they can't handle life. Locking them up where they can't do it is no solution. And it is rare that you can improve their life. They must do that or deal with it. When I stuck it up their ass at the track, and my gambling dojo went nuts over my newly invented "system", I stood there stoicly, as he hugged me and jumped around in celebration. And the races I lost, I didn't cry, I remained stoic and figured out how to bet the next race. It is that kind of calm, cool and collected thinking that solves problems. It solves problems THE RIGHT WAY by attacking the root of the cause. This trait is exhibited in I would estimate about 1% of the population to which I've been exposed. I've learned to accept people's exagerations and whoops and hollers, and tears and fears. They do not have the self control. Is it my job to help them overcome that ? You tell me. And oh yes, I have given up on some. One has gone to a shrink because they got mad at their Mother. Now they are on some kind of drug. They are not themselves. Fuck, it is hard enoung to break through people's normal defense mechanism, I have no time to fight the hardeneing properties of a drug on top of it. And he still has all the problems he had before, he just doesn't care now. Shit, some good weed would've had about the same effect. Latest news, someone I know had to do a little bit of coke. Of course that is not cheap. Guess what, they have no food now. Guess what, I am not feeding them. This does not qualify as an intervention, but I think it is pretty damn close to what is called tough love. If anyone thinks that a mind altering drug differs from a drug of abuse just because it is prescribed, I believe that they are sadly mistaken. Stop by anytime for your grain of naturally harvested unrefined sea salt to go with that. (BTW, how many grams are in a grain ? ) T

pahunkboy -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/30/2010 3:29:12 AM)
T/(BTW, how many grams are in a grain ? ) Wrong. how many grains are in a gram.

sirsholly -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/30/2010 4:36:30 AM)
1 gr = 0.064799 g

pahunkboy -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/30/2010 5:08:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sirsholly 1 gr = 0.064799 g Thank you Holly. I won't say how I knew it was something like that. See every thread to learn more. lol

Termyn8or -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/30/2010 5:56:33 AM)
Don't go Ken on me here Des. I didn't say it happens every day. I'm glad that your experience has been with people in the field who are moral and honest, but I am not talking out my ass, or whatever you said. I've known crooked people in almost every walk of life, and the potential for abuse is there. Ever hear of Dr Faymore ? He was Mr Scrip until they busted him. He was sorta one of my best friend's Father in law. He had his own freeway exit. All the druugies went to him and got their 714s, 18.875s and so forth. In fact we got them for free. "Take whatever you want, just write it down", literally. Yup, Mrs Faymore owned a pharmacy in the same building. One of my best lawyers got disbarred, and I mean this guy was good. Somehow he wound up with a couple of cool million in his lap, blamed it on the secretary. They were in it together but he had to fire her, but said something like :"She didn't understand" thus schmoozing the whole situation over. Not sure if he had to pay back the money, but I hear they were thinking of opening a bank. Another friend of mine just happened to win a big lawsuit right around then and well, they gave it some thought but didn't go through with it. If they had, I could be rich and they would be sort of like Niel Bush. I would possibly have YOUR money. But the point is, if there is a potential for abuse, someone will abuse. But don't insinuate that I am full of shit because I have seen this shit with my own eyes. Again I'm glad your experiences have been positive. There also hasve probably been changes in the law to make abuses of power more difficult. But don't start thinking that everyone is all nice and fair and eager to help. If you do, get a reality check. T

DesFIP -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/30/2010 6:05:21 AM)
I already said that just like hair dressers, some are better than others. Sounds like your lawyer was better at stealing from clients. You are required to do your due diligence when hiring professionals. Just like the people who hire your boss to fix their electronics do. They call the better business bureau, they ask friends for recommendations and so on. The fact that there are a couple of bad professionals doesn't mean all of them are bad. You keep claiming you can stay sober for the rest of your life on your own. You've been claiming that how many years now? Seven DUIs don't happen overnight. Time to put up or shut up. I judge by results, not words. You're really good on the words and you fall really short in the actions. And that's what makes integrity, when your actions and your words agree. Yours don't.

Termyn8or -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/30/2010 6:09:40 AM)
"1 gr = 0.064799 g " Good, that shit is expensive. I has quadrupled in price since I bought it. Oops, now Hunky is going to flood the silver market and corner the salt market. T

Termyn8or -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/30/2010 6:11:22 AM)
"Seven DUIs don't happen overnight. " Should I bother to mention that the last one was 15 years ago ? T

pahunkboy -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/30/2010 6:14:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or "1 gr = 0.064799 g " Good, that shit is expensive. I has quadrupled in price since I bought it. Oops, now Hunky is going to flood the silver market and corner the salt market. T I am moving on to enriched uranium. lol

sirsholly -> RE: Are you mentally ill ? (5/30/2010 7:21:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or "Seven DUIs don't happen overnight. " Should I bother to mention that the last one was 15 years ago ? T uh...Termy...this is your post from less than a month ago, Correct me if i'm wrong...but aren't you are facing a court date and possible jail time? quote: http://www.collarchat.com/m_3191992/mpage_2/tm.htm I have managed somehow not to have any major problems since 1996, but last Saturday it happened. Now I don't have the slush fund, and even with it my chances are slim and none and slim left town. My major point of consternation is the breathalyzer. Every other time I refused, except once. My lawyers usually did a fantastic job for me, resulting in four first offenses. Even when I wrecked into another car I could get community service, and this from a judge who's daughter was killed by a drunk driver. Mr. Slick for sure. Well Mr. Slick just ran up on something like a brick wall. This time I took the test. I was quite confident that I would blow borderline or slightly under the limit. I was goddam lucky it wasn't a felony charge because now they go back twenty years. But it wasn't so I blew. I blew a 191 which is over double the legal limit. Blowing over 170 is a super DUI. And here you REALLY said something to be proud of: quote: What is drunk ? As a record holding DUIist in this state I think my perspective might be of value. And i take this as an admission that you STILL drink and drive, but your rational is it is acceptable because you do not feel drunk. quote: I drink some beer just about every day, but at 200 lbs. I don't get drunk. I do get let's say tipsy a couple times a month, but I am not dangerous. The way to not be dangerous is to only go so far. I don't drive drunk, but to achieve that I must not get so drunk that I remember that I better not do that. In other words, at a certain level any adult can be dangerous. http://www.collarchat.com/m_3124977/mpage_1/key_drunk%252Cdrank/tm.htm#3125365 Sorry to post this, Termy...but drunk driving is a pet peeve with me, followed closely by denial. The combination of the two is deadly.

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