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PeonForHer -> Appropriate Kissing Styles for Femdoms. (5/27/2010 6:01:23 AM)

I've concluded recently that it's acceptable for femdoms to kiss, so long as it's done in a certain way.  

Was there a point at which, when kissing some boy many years ago as a schoolgirl, you suddenly thought 'To hell with his big tongue or the 'correct, feminine and demure' protocol, I'm going to ram my tongue up through the roof of his mouth'?   Did you learn to slobber a lot, grab the man by his throat (or, indeed, an organ/organs further south)?  Do you go for the odd bite - in fact, are you unhappy with any given kiss if you fail to come away without a small piece of his kissing apparatus in your mouth?

Finally, and most crucially (read: a response to this is compulsory):  Who has the longest, strongest and most assertive tongue amongst the femdoms using this board?




flash5522 -> RE: Appropriate Kissing Styles for Femdoms. (5/27/2010 6:05:22 AM)

i'm glad you've deemed it acceptable.  the whole world has been waiting for your edict on this.




theGuideGoddess -> RE: Appropriate Kissing Styles for Femdoms. (5/27/2010 6:23:30 AM)

HUH!  I have never kissed that way.  But then if one get to a kiss with me they have made huge headway into my heart.  Once there it is unlikely that I would be orally taking bits of flesh with me as I go.  Then again it is relative to perspective and we each have our own.  I can only speak for myself, but if there is tongue involved there is definitely soul involved.  If a man were just my slave it is highly unlikely that he would be being kissed on the mouth.  While I might kiss it would be on the forehead or cheek, but NEVER on the mouth.  With tongue is unimaginable.

For clarity sake I am not that physically sadistic.  I have been ‘driven’ to flog and have a variety of floggers and I also have a nice stinging paddle.   There are many loops and hoops to jump first before arriving at this stage though.




divi -> RE: Appropriate Kissing Styles for Femdoms. (5/27/2010 6:24:32 AM)

Wow who knew there were different ways of kissing




OttersSwim -> RE: Appropriate Kissing Styles for Femdoms. (5/27/2010 6:45:18 AM)

Ah P, coming right to the heart of a matter as you do!  I have to say that I agree!  I think that kissing is a wonderful way for a dominant Lady to express her dominance. 

Men and women are sort of taught how they -should- kiss by seeing it in movies and TV.  The guy is above, the girl is below...the guy is forward, the girl is demure...the guy usually has his back to open space, the girl usually has her back to a wall or some such...the guy's head is bent down, the girl's head is bent back...his hands are on usually on her in a sort of controlling embrace...he crushes her to him...

I have to say that I have -NEVER- been kissed like my Lady kisses.  When we kiss, I find myself in the traditional role of the "girl"...she has backed me into walls, bent me back, forced her tongue, crushed me to her, and my bottom lip is never safe from her teeth.  She is forward and assertive and it just brings me into a state of complete flutter - traditional role reversal BIG TIME...[:D]

It is so fuckin' yummy...[;)]




Venatrix -> RE: Appropriate Kissing Styles for Femdoms. (5/27/2010 6:46:28 AM)

Silly boy. It clearly states in Chapter XXII (Part 3, Section iv) of the Domina's Guide to Absolutely Everything that dominas are allowed to kiss their submissive four times per year, no tongues, only on the solstices and the equinoxes.




VaguelyCurious -> RE: Appropriate Kissing Styles for Femdoms. (5/27/2010 8:07:01 AM)

V,

I'm afraid you're still looking at the US edition; you will find if you consult the UK version that part 3 section IV.II clearly states that an exception is made in the event that England wins a match during the World Cup Finals.

(This isn't necessary in the US because it would never happen there. :P)




LadyPact -> RE: Appropriate Kissing Styles for Femdoms. (5/27/2010 8:17:15 AM)

Otters, you are such a treat!

I'm going to take this seriously, even though I know someone is just playing.  [;)]

I'll cop to this one.  I am a throat grabber, hair puller, nail inflicting, collar pulling kisser.  Depending on the passion of the kiss, it will be anywhere from light to extreme.  Conveying anything from a gentle reminder that the boy is Mine to I own your entire world.

Or, so I'm told.




LadyNTrainer -> RE: Appropriate Kissing Styles for Femdoms. (5/27/2010 8:47:43 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
I've concluded recently that it's acceptable for femdoms to kiss, so long as it's done in a certain way. 


Ahh, fuck.  It must be contagious.  Flee for the hills before you catch it, too.  Symptoms of the epidemic currently spreading via Internet forums include nonstop gum-flapping while passing copious amounts of judgment, leading to crippling and sometimes fatal rectocranial infarction.  There is no cure, but if you can succeed in laughing your ass off, it may slow the spread of symptoms.




AAkasha -> RE: Appropriate Kissing Styles for Femdoms. (5/27/2010 8:55:39 AM)

Hmm  -- Well I wrote the below in 1998, it pretty much stands for me:



The first kiss is always the most primal.

Holding his chin, up, so his face catches a little glimmer of the moonlight.

His eyes are shut tight, there is a strain, a tension in his neck. I can see it. I can see him swallow. His eyes are still shut tight, in anticipation.

My fingers dig into his skin. I turn his head to the side, a little, slowly, so I can look at him. Looking at his face, how the light catches it. Admiring him. Evaluating him. Owning him.

The other hand around his neck to hold him in place. To feel every time he swallows.

I can hear his breathing.

My fingers move up a little, around his jaw. They pry at his mouth a little. Then more forceful. "Open."

His lips part a little, and with it, a soft exhale. Eyes still shut tight. I see his hands on his lap, two tight fists.

The seatbelt, tight, over his chest.

Our first kiss.

So very romantic.

*

And yes, it is, to me, romantic.

Because he is frozen there, like an animal paralyzed with fear. This is much better than standing on a porchstep awkwardly after a date, wondering who will make the first move.

He has no idea what I am going to do. He probably anticipates this is the first kiss, but he cannot know for sure.

He just knows I am touching him. His face.

Looking at him. Watching his every move.

With his mouth pried open a little, I move my fingers around his teeth. I pry his mouth open more. He tenses. His back arches. The seatbelt strains against his chest. I can see his breathing.

My heart, by now, is throbbing so hard in my chest. Something primal is alive in me at this point.

And now, my finger slides into his mouth and touches his tongue. If he tries to lick or suck my finger, I prevent it by pushing his tongue back down into his mouth (there is plenty of time for sucking of fingers later, I know).

More anxiety. He tenses. Afraid he might gag if I slide my finger in any deeper. Perhaps a soft sound from him, the first sound of distress. Of fear.

"Shhhh" I say. Tightening my grip around his neck to hold him still.

Moving my finger now over his bottom lip. His lips still parted. When he swallows, now, I can see his tongue move. Eyes still shut tight (such a good boy).

And now, it is time to move in closer.

*

I let him feel my breath on his cheek. The faintest dab of my tongue against his cheek to let him know I am there. I feel his breathing now. I smell his scent now. I am close enough to kiss him, but I let it linger.

Holding his mouth open with my index finger as I move my lips down his cheek, under his chin. Not really kisses. No. They are more like - soft little caresses of my lips to taste his skin.

"Open," I order, which is a strange request in itself because his lips are already parted for me, my finger holding his mouth open by placing slight pressure on his bottom teeth.

But he obeys, opening his mouth even wider, now awkwardly so. Head back all the way against the headrest of the car.

The creaking of leather seats as I maneuver closer to his body. Holding his chin just right where I want it. Turning it toward me. Just looking at that face with the little shadows. The way his mouth is held open for me. Feeling his breath now, right in my face.

I shut my eyes and feel it. Feel the rhythm of it. I feel his pulse now, pounding between my fingers as I still grip his neck gently with my other hand.

I feel one with him.

Ready to make him mine.

*

Sometimes I may get diverted at this point. Diverted to his neck, to play the game of biting his tender flesh to feel him arch his back, hold back a yelp of pain. With my finger in his mouth, making him resist biting down even the slightest bit.

Or a hand clasped tightly over his nose and mouth just to feel the struggle to inhale as my teeth dig into him, making him twist beneath me. Helpless. Enduring.

But other times, I go straight for what I am craving.

His mouth.

First, placing a soft, out-of-place kiss on his bottom lip. Lingering there. Brushing back and forth a little. Any moves from him to respond in kind result in my tightening my grip around his neck to ward him off and keep him in place.

He is just to sit there. And take it. This is the learning process.

Fishing his tongue out of his mouth with mine. Soft at first, then more demanding, his lips still parted. Catching his tongue between my front teeth and holding it there, for a second at first (which he may find kind of interesting and erotic), until it becomes uncomfortable for him, and his natural reaction is to try to pull free.

Like all things. A lesson he must learn.

I don't let go.

And when he tries to pull away, I bite down harder. Just hard enough to show him what I want, and he freezes in fear. The pain, while subtle, is unfamiliar enough to cause caution.

And if I have to, I might stop, grab him by the chin, and hiss to him that he must sit still and endure.

Then it is time for me to explore his mouth with my tongue. And he must sit there and accept the violation, holding still, letting me do my exploring without engaging me in a mutual kiss.

There is much to explore in his mouth.

I take my time.

*

I suppose I enjoy this so much because it is like the first true violation of him. It is me, entering his body, while he must sit and accept it, and let me take what I want.

From an act that he is used to being mutual, if not controlled by him.

Now I am the one in control.

And if there is a way to rape a man with my tongue, I have learned to do it.

And I thrive on it.

*

What is most intoxicating about the violating kiss is the way his entire body responds to it. Usually, tensing his entire body under me. His breathing, more rapid now, and I can feel it against my face as he remains there, lips parted, mouth open, accepting my penetration.

Here is where I find out if I like his taste. Like the way his mouth feels on the inside. Like the touch of his tongue as I explore it with my own.

And I part from him, just slightly, his mouth still open and accepting. Replacing my tongue with my index finger. My head so close to his that I may rest it against his brow, staring down to watch his mouth accept my flesh.

Pushing my finger into his mouth a little. This time, whispering, "Lick."

And now, I get to watch what he does with his tongue. To decide whether or not I want that tongue, for now, inside of my mouth.

And, for later, everywhere else.

*

Sometimes I watch only for a few brief seconds. Other times, I watch for quite some time, transfixed with the display.

Usually, though, when I finally withdraw my index finger from his mouth, I place it in my own. I don't know where this ritual came from, but I find it hard to resist. To feel the warmth, to taste his saliva. To bring us even closer to that point when our tongues will become totally intertwined.

Licking my lips. Watching now as he breathes, lips still parted, swallowing, still, with some discomfort.

"Make me want to kiss you," I order.

By now, hopefully, he should know what it takes. What to do.

But, if not, we start all over again. This time, with less patience.

*

After watching his display, I ease in closer. Hungry for a real kiss. A kiss that brings us together. Where I allow him to move with me, to touch me.

When I find out what his posture will be. If he has learned his place. If he will maintain the tempo. The mood.

Because, simply, after a half hour of such preparation, it is unlikely he will shove his tongue down my throat like a hungry teenager or lust driven fool. He knows about sensuality. He knows what I like. He knows to approach me cautiously. Carefully.

Respectfully.

The first kiss is smooth now. My lips on his, now prodding his chin up so he can close his mouth a little (finally, and I am sure his jaw is aching). Kissing his lips only at first, leaning into him, so he feels my body (comforting) close to him.

My hand finally leaves its threatening posture around his neck.

The chains, essentially, removed.

Leaving him free to respond.

Always, at first, his tongue is delicate, careful. Taking its first venture into my mouth with extreme caution and care.

And I welcome him, holding his chin, putting the other hand behind his head to pull him toward me, but kissing him with a deep, yet never sloppy, passion.

Occasionally pulling back, briefly, to tilt my head just so, but he knows, now, it is to stop to feel his breath on my lips. As he, hopefully, had figured that out from our little ritual. That I like the way that feels.

He keeps his hands down. On his lap. Two tight fists, still.

And even though he responds eagerly - passionately -- he does not control the kiss. He follows my lead.

He responds in kind. He allows me to enjoy his mouth. His tongue - his teeth - his lips.

The kiss is a symbol of what will eventually become what we are.

We kiss for a long time. Sometimes, hours.

I never tire of it.




SylvereApLeanan -> RE: Appropriate Kissing Styles for Femdoms. (5/27/2010 8:58:24 AM)

There's an appropriate style of kissing for women?  Well, fuck me...
 
My kisses consist of hair grabbing, nails to the back, slow but firm tongue swirling, and lip nibbling that works up (or rather down) to the neck for a full-on bite.  But only if I really like the person. 
 
I guess I've been doing it wrong for 20+ years.  Crap.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Appropriate Kissing Styles for Femdoms. (5/27/2010 9:04:29 AM)

Kissing?

Criminy, next you'll be telling me that dating and fucking are related somehow!




SylvereApLeanan -> RE: Appropriate Kissing Styles for Femdoms. (5/27/2010 9:56:20 AM)

Bite your tongue, LH.  Such a thing cannot be.  It's scandalous, scandalous, I say!




PeonForHer -> RE: Appropriate Kissing Styles for Femdoms. (5/27/2010 10:07:55 AM)

FR

Thank you all for your responses.  They were all very interesting in their different ways and I'm grateful that you have all striven not to be too disgusting.  This comment, by Akasha, points to what was at the back of my mind when I began the thread:

"The kiss is a symbol of what will eventually become what we are".

So, say boy meets girl, they kiss for the first time (properly, I mean, not one of those icy 'thanks for dinner, but I don't want to see you again' kisses) - would there be an indication, in that first kiss, that the boy's struck lucky and scored himself a femdom?  Or do femdoms - like their vanilla counterparts - sometimes like to have their mouths battered by their new partners' tongues, while they, the femdoms, do the 'head back and swooning thing' that was so standard for hero/heroine kisses in those 1950s films?




AAkasha -> RE: Appropriate Kissing Styles for Femdoms. (5/27/2010 10:23:16 AM)


It seems so simple but really it's rather complicated.  I can say I have kissed many, many men.  But only a handful of men I have kissed romantically and emotionally.  I sometimes kiss out of domination; other times I kiss out of love or lust.  Sometimes one kiss can be all three. 

But one thing I am really unfamiliar with, beyond maybe when I was 14 years old, is waiting to be kissed, hoping to be kissed, whatever.  As soon as I get my femdom wings, and decided what I wanted, I was forever the initiator of the "first kiss," and I think that's always set the tone for intimacy on first dates, club hookups, whatever.  Whoever is initiating and controlling the pace of the kiss, I think, is setting the tone that they are the aggressor.  I never pined for a kiss or waited or hoped. When it was time, I did it.  Or, if it was a semi traditional thing for whatever reason or I was toning down my dominance for fear of not scaring off a guy, I'd say, "Now's the part when you kiss me," and let him do it.

Nowadays kissing is a bit more complicated, as I have mentioned on other threads. I'm in an open relationship, but we haven't been able to come to terms as a couple where "kissing" falls in the mix.  I want to have the ability to kiss other men; he sees it as a bit intimate, and I see the slippery slope. When I kiss a man as an act of domination (he's restrained, he's helpless, he's not in control, he's my victim, he's my boytoy, he's my slut), the kiss is just me taking what I want from him.  There's no emotional embrace or romantic intimacy.  It's my act, I own it, and it's no different than hair pulling, face slapping, biting or scratching or flogging or anything.

But at what point does a kiss become mutual, affectionate, and filled with lust?  Could a kiss mutate, in the moment, to one of passion and intimacy? If the guy's a great kisser, and there are feelings under the surface I have denied, yeah, I can see that happening. Hence the slippery slope. 

Akasha




PeonForHer -> RE: Appropriate Kissing Styles for Femdoms. (5/27/2010 11:21:52 AM)

Thank you, Akasha.

I'll say this:  I've only ever kissed three women who I've known, beforehand, to be femdoms.  All three kissed in such a way that I thought.  "Oh!  Wow!  OK, no more proof needed!'  (Even though one of those was only a goodbye kiss.)  I'm beginning to think, now, 'Right, forget the boots, leather skirts and aggressive demeanour - it's the kiss that really shows if she's 'got it' or not. 

Heh . . . Though, I can already hear the growls of "Oh great.  Yet another thing femdoms have to 'get right' in order to be 'authentic femdoms'."




Lockit -> RE: Appropriate Kissing Styles for Femdoms. (5/27/2010 11:28:16 AM)

LOL Peon... At first one would think, how can you complicate something so simple, but there really isn't anything simple about kissing. Kissing is of major importance! I've always felt that if a man can't kiss, he isn't going to do anything for me in bed. If it is that important to me, I am sure that to many men it will be just as important.

Kissing is different with every man I have kissed. I love many different styles of kissing. I want to see what he's got and I am sure he wants to see what I've got. Now there have been times when I was more primal in a first kiss, but that is often not the case. I may be a huntress in how the kiss takes place, but the kiss itself isn't primal at first. The primal comes after the first kiss, which could in fact be right after, but the first kiss isn't my taking, over powering or showing my beast. Some could even say I was more timid and that can be a problem for some but I am not being timid, I am testing to see a great deal. It won't be bad and they will want more, but I want to see what he's got to see what I'm working with and then take over. I need to see how much I am going to have to do to create in him, the lover I want. I can often tell what type of experience he has had sexually with a kiss. I don't expect perfection, however I do expect something to work with.

A kiss tells me a lot about a man. Now if he is looking for Mistress Sadistic, 24/7 and every kiss is the same type of kiss, I am not the kisser for him. I am not proving the beast is there and alive in a first kiss. I am proving I can kiss damn well, unless he is totally awful at it. Totally awful is for example, tongue out and touching before lips meet or open passive mouth, timid tongue action and a lazy-man way of laying there to be taken. Another would be, does he think my mouth is a car and it needs to be washed badly or my face sucked into a vacuum. I am not asking to be taken anymore than I want him on a first kiss to be expecting to be taken; I just want to see what he has. If I feel it is something I can work with and want, we go on. At my age and the age of a man I want to be with he damn well better know how to kiss in some way.

To be primal and beastly, is a build up for me. I am not the most primal until I have learned him, his body, his responses and then the beast comes out, I know how to trigger him and that is what makes me more power seeking and thrilled because that is when I know for sure I can make him whimper and he is caught in my Lockit trap. For some it can come automatic, for others it may take a while. I am more primal in a relationship with someone I fully trust and a first kiss doesn't always happen at that point, it comes before that. I'm not looking for a hot flash and if he is, he isn't the man for me.

That doesn't mean that what we do isn't exciting or great, it just means that I need a lot of things before I feel primal about a man. A lot starts with a first kiss, but there are a lot of other things outside of the physical that makes me primal. It depends on the start, how much we know one another and where I want this particular man to go.

I want it all. Gentle, loving and slow, primal and hot where the brain shuts down and the body takes over and everything in-between. If it is just hot sex I want, I may take and over power and be that primal animal with a first kiss, but most often it is a relationship I seek and I don't want to take him primally when he brings me my coffee, I want a different kiss and I have to know the potential is there for all I want.

It isn't me proving I have want it takes to be his lover. It is him proving he has what it takes to be mine.




AAkasha -> RE: Appropriate Kissing Styles for Femdoms. (5/27/2010 12:19:17 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Thank you, Akasha.

I'll say this:  I've only ever kissed three women who I've known, beforehand, to be femdoms.  All three kissed in such a way that I thought.  "Oh!  Wow!  OK, no more proof needed!'  (Even though one of those was only a goodbye kiss.)  I'm beginning to think, now, 'Right, forget the boots, leather skirts and aggressive demeanour - it's the kiss that really shows if she's 'got it' or not. 

Heh . . . Though, I can already hear the growls of "Oh great.  Yet another thing femdoms have to 'get right' in order to be 'authentic femdoms'."



Right, I am sure.  But for me it's not even just the kiss itself, it's everything about the way it is orchestrated.  Especially first kisses; I recall a lot of times in my youth, I'd do things like hold a guy's wrists together in his lap while I kissed him - I wouldn't allow him to touch me, and I'd enjoy any squirming.  Or I would have my fingers in his hair and tighten my grip, starting with an affectionate feel then tightening until I could feel some sort of reaction (wince, shiver, whimper). 

I absolutely adore the muffled-whimper-while-kissed moment. 

Akasha




LadyNTrainer -> RE: Appropriate Kissing Styles for Femdoms. (5/27/2010 1:15:56 PM)

Very inspiring, Akasha.  I'll respond with a few relevant excerpts from something I wrote a bit more recently.


When he kneels trembling after a beating, his hair covers his face like a river of molten darkness. My fist closes in the thick, silken length of it, pulling him back into the light. His eyes are closed at first, breath coming in shaky little gasps. I rape his lips with a savage kiss, all teeth and tongue and brutal and sensual. His dark eyes open in surprise and his hair tumbles down the pale arch of his back in an obsidian waterfall.

Does he know how lovely he is in those moments, how vulnerable and beautiful? Sometimes I think he does. Other times I am less sure. But my eyes must teach him this lesson, and my hands, running rough and possessive over every inch of him. Being handled this way makes him shiver, but it also makes him smile.

I do not beat him too hard or too often, perhaps because he is so skilled at distracting me from violence and soothing me with his submission. He is good, and I am willing to be distracted. Most of the time, I am willing. When I am not, when I need to be rough with him, his pale skin marks so beautifully and so easily under my hands and my teeth. He cries out in pain and terror and cringes at each quick lift of my hand. Shaking and whimpering, he can no longer stand on his own. I must lay him down or support him with steady strength to continue my savage assault on his flesh. And I do continue, because the taste of his fear and his blood is a heady crimson wine, and I am drunk on it.

Afterward, he kisses me fervently and his eyes are glistening and grateful. He says he loves me, he is proud to wear my marks. I make him happy. I do believe him. These things have been his fantasies since long before we met, and sometimes it’s disconcerting how close a match my own desires are to the dreams he has held onto for so many years alone. In me he has his savage predator, and I have in him my willing prey.  Proof that there is some merciful deity out there, perhaps, who has granted us each other.

Fiat lux, let there be this light, for we have both found our way.




Lucienne -> RE: Appropriate Kissing Styles for Femdoms. (5/27/2010 2:17:41 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: AAkasha
Or I would have my fingers in his hair and tighten my grip, starting with an affectionate feel then tightening until I could feel some sort of reaction (wince, shiver, whimper). 



Ha. This. I feel like I'm cheating answering this question since I wouldn't describe myself as a Femdom, but I can justify my contribution in terms of presenting as a false positive under this test. I am pretty controlling about kissing. Actually, I'm pretty controlling about men's tongues, in that left to their own devices I frequently find them stabby and unproductive. But kissing, yes, I usually take control of the pace and style. My lips and tongue work better than your lips and tongue so sit there and follow my lead. Also, the hair thing. I've been with a few shaved heads in my time, by if they've got enough scruff to grab, I am grabbing it. And that's with any kind of man, whether or not he is or knows anything about kink. I'd probably just call the whole damn thing off if a guy responded negatively to me securing his head via his hair. My favorite positive response to that is the half laugh- half "huh, what did I just get myself into."




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