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RE: I Don't Think They Intended THIS - 5/28/2010 9:37:54 AM   
LadyPact


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ORIGINAL: catize
Now I'm wondering if they would like to see me nervous! I am not sure that I should ask them!

catize,

Being the sadist that I am, I think you should ask.  Please remember that I say that because I really do tend to like the idea of how fun it is for Me. 

Nothing personal, dear, but suffering does turn Me on.


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RE: I Don't Think They Intended THIS - 5/28/2010 9:44:00 AM   
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There is also in that moment this feeling that there are no more masks, no more facades, no more acting cool or aloof, but pure rawness which leads to a much deeper and honest understanding of one another.

It's truly beautiful and powerful.

- LA


LadyA,

I absolutely get what you are saying.  While I don't necessarily stop being a sadist, that's not exactly the part of Me that I am putting forward at the bank or the grocery store.  During play, people get to see the most authentic piece of that side of Myself.  I see this almost as the top side version of what laurell said earlier.

Thank you for adding your input.


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RE: I Don't Think They Intended THIS - 5/28/2010 9:44:22 AM   
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I think there are some things in life that I will never know.  The question of just how many folks fall into the category of reaching out on the net, but really would rather being doing things in the physical world is one of these.  I have to admit, I think some people cheat themselves out of opportunities.  They stand in their own way of something that they might really want to experience.  Yep, I'm even admitting to being judgmental enough to think that might even be a little sad.
Carol and I started online. I have a great sympathy for those doing their explorations online for that reason. But you are absolutely correct, many do put artificial stumbling blocks in their way. It is not "judgmental" to say that it's sad that someone is impeding progress towards their own goals -- it's simply a fact. you didn't define or try to judge the goal itself.

I cannot tell you how many times I've been mentoring some aspiring online slave (they're ALL slaves online) and I hear the girl talk about her husband and how wonderful he is. So then I ask, "out of curiosity, is there some reason you and your husband are not doing this together?" Almost universally I get the knee-jerk "Oh, I could never do that!" response.

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RE: I Don't Think They Intended THIS - 5/28/2010 10:55:08 AM   
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Pick something in the world of BDSM and/or your dynamic, and discuss what it feels like.


My partner inspires my authenticity. And I mean that in the sincerest sense. Pretenses, layers, and everything that overshadows my real self is carefully pulled away. He's able to discuss the tough stuff. Things that others may never say because it sounds harsh or might hurt my feelings. If I need to lose weight he'll tell me. If I have an untapped talent I'm ignoring or failing to explore he'll bring it up. He enriches my person and destroys the false ideas I have in my head. Some of them I've cultivated on my own and others were whispered in my ear. But he isn't afraid to address it.

As you might imagine it isn't easy. Sometimes it hurts and the agony pierces me within. But I stand tall through the tears and internal struggles outsiders never witness. The smile hides the doubt and the grace my insecurities. I draw upon his strength and my own through every step. I see the indelible traces of yesterday. But without his hand I wouldn't be the woman I am today.

~porcelaine


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RE: I Don't Think They Intended THIS - 5/28/2010 10:58:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		Oooh, i like this thread!

For me, it's feeling my Owner's pleasure and enjoyment in me - for me the ultimate is when he truly gives in to all of his passion and lust and dark desires and i become simply that object of his use and need - feeling his enjoyment of me is the most amazing sensation ever, and i just want to give more and more of myself to him, as much as i can, to feed his pleasure and his need - it is almost a high, in a way.  It is a feeling of being devoured and taken down to a dark place by him, existing simply for his pleasure and intensity - it is very powerful.

Also, simply kneeling at his feet with my head in his lap - him stroking my hair - hugging his leg, closing my eyes, collared, leashed, and knowing and feeling safe and that for that moment, all is right with the world.



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RE: I Don't Think They Intended THIS - 5/28/2010 11:12:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact


But, they never said it was supposed to be your world.  It was supposed to enhance your world, not take it's place.  The advantage of putting information at your fingertips was so that it could be useful to you.  That you could implement it in some way.

I feel the very same way about Collar Me.  Yes, it's a wonderful thing!  It's a place that folks can share with each other and talk together about the world of BDSM.  It even gets used to bring people together.  Still, I don't think they ever intended for people to see this place as the world of BDSM. 



As some of you know, I've been away for a long while now -- spending a lot of time in the real world. I've gotten my lasts two offspring through HS (one graduates today, another on the 10th), and my absolute youngest was just sworn into the AF-DEP (Air Force Delayed Entry Program, for anyone who isn't familiar with the military affinity for acronyms) today as well.

I can't stress enough how different the world of BDSM (and just about anything else from steampunk to fantasy fiction) is from OUTSIDE the computer box. It really is a different world. While I may "touch base" on the internet every now and again, trying to -live- on the computer is sort of like trying to eat a wax apple -- all the look, but none of the FLAVOR!

I have to see the eyes.. in person... that hint of mischievous sparkle... or the haze of tears just before they're shed... the intensity just doesn't translate across a video screen. I have to smell the sweat and blood, and taste that copper-sweet flavor in the air... I have to feel the weight and heft of leather in my hand, and the vibration in my arm when leather and flesh meet... I have to see that longing to please in the carefully held muscles of a kneeling servant lifting a cup of coffee or tea... that exquisite tension.

I have to agree with LP on this one... resource, yes... be-all/end-all... nope, so sorry...

Calla

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RE: I Don't Think They Intended THIS - 5/28/2010 11:16:50 AM   
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RE: I Don't Think They Intended THIS - 5/28/2010 12:15:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: porcelaine

LadyPact,


My partner inspires my authenticity. And I mean that in the sincerest sense. Pretenses, layers, and everything that overshadows my real self is carefully pulled away.

~porcelaine


Hello porcelaine,

As I said earlier, I think this happens to some degree on both sides of the kneel.  It's such an internal thing.  I tend to think that this only comes with a degree of time in a dynamic.  Some do it easier than others, but there is definitely an investment going on.  Being able to share that authentic self with another human being is a treasure, indeed.

Thank you for contributing here.


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RE: I Don't Think They Intended THIS - 5/28/2010 12:28:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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hey LA - i was on those AOL boards back then, only im sure the one i was on was called Dominance and Submission -

Hello lally,

I'm thinking you, in fact, might be My target audience.

Would you be willing to discuss, in more detail, what it was like for you in your transition from the internet to experiencing these things in real life?



well, back then i had a very good idea of what submission meant to me, how i wanted to submit and in what way - it took me  a while to learn that the Dominant had his own ideas that didnt necessarily fit in with mine - it was a sharp learning curve .  much later i coined my own phrase in this as me submitting to submission - the transition from submitting to submission to submission to the man (an entirely different feeling completely).  learning to let go and trust was my biggest hurdle, learning to let go of what i wanted and how i wanted it and just letting Him take me to where he wanted to take me was a mixture of real life and asking asking asking on various boards, but when i finally got it and got there - wow!! - just wow!! - i even remember the specific moment when it all just fell into place.  we were out for the day and he had to take a firm hold of my hand because i was just free floating beside him.  it was a eureka moment when all of the struggling inside of me just went, it was effortless and seamless, i felt vulnerable but in a delicious way. i just knew that if i did as he asked and expected all would be wonderful and it was - i didnt have to protect myself and i didnt have to analyze anything, i just had to trust and let it all go - smiling))) - it really was an amazing moment.

but also from the start one of the biggest things for me was realising that i would never find Ds without BDSM - there would always be BDSM and if i wanted Ds id have to learn to accept BDSM - it all seemed too kinky for me - at my first munch (i went on my own) i was terrified! - i thought theyd all be weirdos, but of course they werent.  we had part of a pub that shared the main bar, it was separate but it seemed to me that everyone in the pub could surely hear all the loud male voices barratoning the virtues of a spanked bottom and a flogged back.  there was a guy who was just moody and dark and scared me to hell, a couple of guys who invited me to a spanking and all i could say was 'but im really looking for Ds' - they were very sweet of course and humoured me -

i kissed alot of frogs along the way and i met some brilliant people too but it wasnt an overnight thing at all.  as much as my desire to submit was burning a hole in me it took me a long time to learn how to submit.  to drop the fiest and actually stop struggling with myself.  the moment that i did the selfishness of what i wanted paled against the pleasure of giving him what he wanted - a simple enough table turn but it took an amazing guy with endless patience to teach me that.

so thats the potted version - and thank you for inviting me to share LP.


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RE: I Don't Think They Intended THIS - 5/28/2010 12:30:16 PM   
LadyPact


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Oooh, i like this thread!

For me, it's feeling my Owner's pleasure and enjoyment in me - for me the ultimate is when he truly gives in to all of his passion and lust and dark desires and i become simply that object of his use and need - feeling his enjoyment of me is the most amazing sensation ever, and i just want to give more and more of myself to him, as much as i can, to feed his pleasure and his need - it is almost a high, in a way.  It is a feeling of being devoured and taken down to a dark place by him, existing simply for his pleasure and intensity - it is very powerful.

Also, simply kneeling at his feet with my head in his lap - him stroking my hair - hugging his leg, closing my eyes, collared, leashed, and knowing and feeling safe and that for that moment, all is right with the world.



Hello UniqueRaven,

This is another one where I think the two sides to the kneel are different, but yet the same.  It just comes from the opposite direction. 

While I don't feel this type of fulfillment from being used Myself, I can certainly identify with the fulfillment of using someone else.  To take complete control of them and show them that they are My property.  That resonates deeply within Me.

As I said on the other thread, I'm glad you dropped in today.  Thank you for joining this one.


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Beach Ball Sized Lady Nuts. ~ TWD

Happily dating a new submissive. It's official. I've named him engie.

Please do not send me email here. Unless I know you, I will delete the email unread

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RE: I Don't Think They Intended THIS - 5/28/2010 1:57:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika
There is also in that moment this feeling that there are no more masks, no more facades, no more acting cool or aloof, but pure rawness which leads to a much deeper and honest understanding of one another.

It's truly beautiful and powerful.

- LA


LadyA,

I absolutely get what you are saying.  While I don't necessarily stop being a sadist, that's not exactly the part of Me that I am putting forward at the bank or the grocery store.  During play, people get to see the most authentic piece of that side of Myself.  I see this almost as the top side version of what laurell said earlier.

Thank you for adding your input.



Ever wonder if we'd get better service at the bank or grocery store if we did? ;-)

It was a pleasure to answer this thread. I hope it was a nice reality check for some!

- LA

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RE: I Don't Think They Intended THIS - 5/28/2010 2:32:33 PM   
UniqueRaven


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

quote:

ORIGINAL: UniqueRaven

Oooh, i like this thread!

For me, it's feeling my Owner's pleasure and enjoyment in me - for me the ultimate is when he truly gives in to all of his passion and lust and dark desires and i become simply that object of his use and need - feeling his enjoyment of me is the most amazing sensation ever, and i just want to give more and more of myself to him, as much as i can, to feed his pleasure and his need - it is almost a high, in a way.  It is a feeling of being devoured and taken down to a dark place by him, existing simply for his pleasure and intensity - it is very powerful.

Also, simply kneeling at his feet with my head in his lap - him stroking my hair - hugging his leg, closing my eyes, collared, leashed, and knowing and feeling safe and that for that moment, all is right with the world.



Hello UniqueRaven,

This is another one where I think the two sides to the kneel are different, but yet the same.  It just comes from the opposite direction. 

While I don't feel this type of fulfillment from being used Myself, I can certainly identify with the fulfillment of using someone else.  To take complete control of them and show them that they are My property.  That resonates deeply within Me.

As I said on the other thread, I'm glad you dropped in today.  Thank you for joining this one.


Thank you too LadyPact.  i'm happy to join in today - and reading your words gave me a thrilled little smile as well.    Hugs!

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RE: I Don't Think They Intended THIS - 5/28/2010 2:43:41 PM   
LadyPact


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ORIGINAL: CallaFirestormBW
I can't stress enough how different the world of BDSM (and just about anything else from steampunk to fantasy fiction) is from OUTSIDE the computer box. It really is a different world. While I may "touch base" on the internet every now and again, trying to -live- on the computer is sort of like trying to eat a wax apple -- all the look, but none of the FLAVOR!

I have to smell the sweat and blood, and taste that copper-sweet flavor in the air...

Calla

Calla,

It is good to see you visit.  Perhaps we'll get more of that pleasure in the coming days.

You picked two of the senses that aren't the first ones that immediately pop into mind for some, and that is smell and taste.  Since you and I know that we have some of the same interests, it was so easy for Me to zone in on the connection.  Some of which I only engage in with someone who is fluid bonded with Me because I know I'm going to want to taste them.

Thank you for contributing here.  It is good to see you.


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RE: I Don't Think They Intended THIS - 5/28/2010 2:59:28 PM   
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so thats the potted version - and thank you for inviting me to share LP.


lally,

I think I'd really rather thank you instead.  It was not only beautifully written, but once again, only further demonstrates what I have said about you before.  The amount that you've grown just fascinates Me.  I am truly in awe that you have come so far and made leaps and bounds in your personal path.

Thank you ever so much.


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Beach Ball Sized Lady Nuts. ~ TWD

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RE: I Don't Think They Intended THIS - 5/28/2010 3:01:00 PM   
LadyPact


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Wait just a minute there, Dear.  I'm glad to see Calla back, too, but you forgot your contribution to the thread. 
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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Huzzah for Dame Calla's great news!! Good to see you back.


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RE: I Don't Think They Intended THIS - 5/28/2010 3:38:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Master believes in maintenance beatings and he gave me the first one the last time I went down to be with him.

Every time the belt hit my ass I felt myself become more submissive, my sense of independance slipping away.  I could literally feel my old self slipping away, leaking out, peeling off, leaving a woman who was - and still is - 100% HIS.

By the time he finished I was sobbing uncontrollably, just from the emotion of it all. I turned around and fell at his feet, gripping and kissing them, no thought, no decision to do it, it was my automatic reaction. Then I just lay first at his feet and then in his arms and cried til I could cry no more. I've never felt safer than I did at that moment. I also knew that all I wanted was to keep being his and make him happy for the rest of my life because at his feet is exactly where I need to be.

It was easily the most primal sensation (lacking a better word) the most primal experience I have ever had.  Something very fundimental changed in me that night and there has been no going back.


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RE: I Don't Think They Intended THIS - 5/28/2010 3:50:52 PM   
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Being the sadist that I am, I think you should ask. Please remember that I say that because I really do tend to like the idea of how fun it is for Me.

Nothing personal, dear, but suffering does turn Me on.


~~grins~~ I was afraid you'd suggest that! But I did think about it all night and had come to the same conclusion. I realized I've been assuming, and we all know the dangers of that!

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RE: I Don't Think They Intended THIS - 5/28/2010 4:23:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: lally2
so thats the potted version - and thank you for inviting me to share LP.


lally,

I think I'd really rather thank you instead.  It was not only beautifully written, but once again, only further demonstrates what I have said about you before.  The amount that you've grown just fascinates Me.  I am truly in awe that you have come so far and made leaps and bounds in your personal path.

Thank you ever so much.



youve no idea how much that means to me - thank you.

not wanting to seemingly bang on about myself, but i missed out one important part to this path that i want to add because its important for me to acknowledge it.  but after i released myself from InTongues, who was probably my most defining Master in the end (and i dont care what people say about ownership or enslavement - i felt both) i returned to paganism but in a big way, emmersed myself as a sort of healing process.  from what id learnt with IT led me into a deeper relationship with paganism and through that i learnt to submit myself more deeply again.

there was a time when i really thought id left 'here', that i had learnt submission (i dont mean that to sound arrogant, theres always more to learn) but for myself i had found the key and ive always been someone that once ive sussed a thing i move onto the next thing.  but it was just a hiatus because you cant really leave what you are.  now im embarking on a new relationship and im heading for a whole new learning curve with this guy, its so exciting, so many new things to explore that are part of where i am as a sub and where i am as a pagan that i want to share with Him and He wants to teach me and share with me.

but i have to say that if it wasnt for people like you Lady Pact and places like this i might never have found my place.   

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RE: I Don't Think They Intended THIS - 5/29/2010 5:45:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

Master believes in maintenance beatings and he gave me the first one the last time I went down to be with him.

Every time the belt hit my ass I felt myself become more submissive, my sense of independance slipping away.  I could literally feel my old self slipping away, leaking out, peeling off, leaving a woman who was - and still is - 100% HIS.

By the time he finished I was sobbing uncontrollably, just from the emotion of it all. I turned around and fell at his feet, gripping and kissing them, no thought, no decision to do it, it was my automatic reaction. Then I just lay first at his feet and then in his arms and cried til I could cry no more. I've never felt safer than I did at that moment. I also knew that all I wanted was to keep being his and make him happy for the rest of my life because at his feet is exactly where I need to be.

It was easily the most primal sensation (lacking a better word) the most primal experience I have ever had.  Something very fundimental changed in me that night and there has been no going back.




Daaaaayyyyyyuuuuuuuuuum.
That is just fucking hot. I love slave/sub minds. How delectably delightful.
Thanks for the morning wood! Someone is getting ravished this AM.


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RE: I Don't Think They Intended THIS - 5/29/2010 5:48:47 AM   
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