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RE: What would you do in this situation? - 6/2/2010 10:44:22 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MistressXbox

I have since released lurch -- this is not because I don't care about him, but because I do care.



Welcome MistressXbox...Thank you for coming on and clarifying things.  I wanted to say the quote above is what stood out the most for me in your post.  Caring enough to let a person go is never easy but sometimes it's the only way.

I hope that lurch has continued to read this thread, along with the others he started, as I believe there was some good advice and ideas given.  If he chooses to explore any part of D/s again, he'll only benefit from what others have told him.

Best of luck!

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RE: What would you do in this situation? - 6/2/2010 10:56:41 AM   
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Thank you for coming on and clarifying things. 


Technically, MistressXBox hasn't clarified 'things' so much as 'her side of the story', I'd say.

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RE: What would you do in this situation? - 6/2/2010 10:58:42 AM   
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True.

But for me, reading her side brings clarity...as much as reading other threads started by the OP brought more clarity to the original post on this thread.

Edited to add.....

Getting a better understanding of a situation doesn't mean one side is right and the other is wrong.  I still have questions but to be honest, even with the answers I'll still not have the whole picture. 

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RE: What would you do in this situation? - 6/2/2010 11:23:38 AM   
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Fair enough . . .

No offence to MistressXBox - it's just that I've seen before how someone can come on a forum and present as utterly rational, balanced, mature and adult about a series of events - yet know for a fact that they've acted like a nutcase during that series of events.  I'm much warier about being manipulated in that way, these days.

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RE: What would you do in this situation? - 6/2/2010 11:49:05 AM   
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It's obvious that the game was more important to you, so you did the right thing. Domme's are a dime a dozen, but great video games come along so rarely.

If she releases you, meh, for another $250 you'll have a new Mistress.

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RE: What would you do in this situation? - 6/2/2010 11:53:24 AM   
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RE: What would you do in this situation? - 6/2/2010 11:54:08 AM   
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LOL.  You deal with him.

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RE: What would you do in this situation? - 6/2/2010 11:56:30 AM   
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Please note that opinions submitted by subrob are not necessarily shared by his Dommes ...

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RE: What would you do in this situation? - 6/2/2010 12:01:22 PM   
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Next time I'll end my post with [/sarcasm] OK?

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RE: What would you do in this situation? - 6/2/2010 12:07:34 PM   
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That's some funishment in the making right there.

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RE: What would you do in this situation? - 6/2/2010 12:13:59 PM   
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I see no cause for mirth.  Rob's point was entirely valid: no Xbox or indeed any other games console has approached me at a BDSM venue. 

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RE: What would you do in this situation? - 6/2/2010 12:21:05 PM   
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Dude, I'd be more worried if one DID.

ETA - Have you seen what happens in the course of an Xbox game?  Come on.  Even I'm not sadistic enough to blow people up.


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RE: What would you do in this situation? - 6/2/2010 12:25:21 PM   
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I see no cause for mirth.  Rob's point was entirely valid: no Xbox or indeed any other games console has approached me at a BDSM venue. 


I'm with LP - I'd be concerned if one did ...

However, you can go to a multitude of stores, every day, and buy games and consoles ... how many stores stock Dommes?

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RE: What would you do in this situation? - 6/2/2010 12:31:06 PM   
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quote:

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I'm with LP - I'd be concerned if one did ...

However, you can go to a multitude of stores, every day, and buy games and consoles ... how many stores stock Dommes?


Now, I think you're being rather silly here, SD.  People shouldn't be silly on CM threads, I feel.

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RE: What would you do in this situation? - 6/2/2010 12:37:10 PM   
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That's some funishment in the making right there.



sshhhh don't give her any ideas.

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RE: What would you do in this situation? - 6/2/2010 1:14:02 PM   
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I can understand what you're saying, cloudboy. Dramatic people tend to suck the energy from the room, and I don't enjoy a relationship like that any more than your average person. But obviously, I considered lurch to be more than just an outlet for scratching my Domme-ly itches!

He was released from service about a week after this incident occurred. It was not specifically due to the Xbox game itself, but based based more on the negative and bitter statements he'd made regarding his perception on my ability to handle the situation. (Fourth paragraph from the bottom of my last post.) Based on those statements, I just didn't see us as a good fit in a D/s dynamic. But certainly that doesn't end our friendship.


This is the second thread this week where "a situation" derailed a relationship. The problem with "situations" is that sometimes they can take on a life of their own, and oftentimes in hindsight can seem like nothing at all.

The best relationships avoid "situations" or have effective ways of dealing with them.

In a less than perfect relationship, its "the situation" that seems to break its back.

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RE: What would you do in this situation? - 6/2/2010 1:23:07 PM   
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sshhhh don't give her any ideas.


Too late.


Mawhahahahaha.

(I really do think you s-types should come to terms with the fact that I enjoy the thoughts of you being at the whim of your Dominant's joy.  It's nothing personal, I assure you.  I can like you and still be quite happy with the thought of you being placed in such predicaments of her delight.)


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RE: What would you do in this situation? - 6/2/2010 2:29:54 PM   
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lurch999,

I've not read the entire thread, but here's my immediate thought after reading the OP.  Finances are a big part of relationships.  I'm not sure what circumstances you and your dominant are in, but if you made an agreement about restricting purchases, presumably there was a reason for this.  On top of this, the two of you share D/s dynamics so when you broke the agreement, you broke it on multiple levels - vanilla and D/s.

As far as how serious a transgression this is, I don't know your mutual circumstances, but I do know that when one partner and I made such an agreement, when it was broken (and I'm not going to say who broke it), this was a key event that started the end of our relationship.  There are trust issues, D/s issues, and simply "following through on your word" issues here.  Perhaps, if you handle this correctly and address your partner's concerns, you may be able to patch this up.  Apologizing to your partner is a good place to start.  Doing other things (such as, perhaps, cutting up your credit cards or curtailing your ability to spend in other ways) will show your partner that you're serious about keeping your word.

I'll offer a flip around on this whole situation just for perspective.  If this disagreement is simply over how you spend money (such as you liking video games and your partner thinking you should spend the money differently, but in either event you can afford this), you should ask yourself if this is what you want in your life.  Neither of you is wrong in this instance.  Rather, it's just a matter of compatibility and desire to accommodate each other's tastes.  Either side of the coin, you've got some thinking and communicating to do.  Good luck with this.

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RE: What would you do in this situation? - 6/2/2010 2:37:36 PM   
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I am honestly sitting here shaking my head at the thought that people go hunting for the OPs other posts so that he can be called on them in this thread. I am all for personal accountability but there are people like myself who havent read prior posts from the OP. Who take this OP at face value. Who don't have the time or inclination to go searching his past posts to proof he isn't a slave or a submissive.

quote:

She told me that i had to give Her my Xbox and the game as punishment (temporarily). i argued with Her a bit about this, i said because i didn't quite trust people with my things (i have been robbed before) but really i just didn't feel like giving up the console or the game.


I admit when I first read the OP I missed the highlighted part of the quote above.

However, that doesnt change my response regarding compulsive disorders. I will also say that "getting help" for such a disorder as someone pointed out he should even today still carries alot of stigma and unless you have insurance that covers therapy, therapy is very expensive and even if you do have insurance you have to be in a place were you are willing and able to face those compulsions and why they exist.

I will also add that if the OP truly does have a compulsive disoder that is not a get out jail free card for when he acts on those compulsions.



My problem with this is the tendency to use a "compulsion" as an excuse. Part of the point of having external controls in place for individuals who express compulsive behaviors like compulsive shopping/spending is to provide a 'stop', since they don't have an internal one... but this only works for as long as the individual has any interest in truly managing hir compulsive behaviors. In the case of the OP, it is apparent that, although he's given his dominant companion the right to place that "stop", he, in effect, "runs the stop sign" whenever he feels like it, and then lies both to her and to himself to rationalize why it is OK that he over-ran the external boundary placed on his compulsive behavior.

The process between himself and his dominant companion is no different than the process between an addict and a sponsor in Shoppers Anonymous, AA, or any of the 12-step program... it will only work for as long as the individual in question has any real interest in making the change. In this case, it is pretty apparent that the OP is less serious about resolving his issues than he may have appeared at the outset.

For myself, while I tend to take into consideration stressors that would impact behavior (in this case, the dental treatment), I would consider the fact that a servant called me and then did not wait for my response to be an indicator that xhe was setting hirself up with excuses. This is symptomatic of compulsion, but if xhe were really interested in resolving hir issues, the fact that hir dominant party did not answer the phone would have been read as a "stop", and, as hard as it might be, xhe would have made a different choice.

I don't know the OP, and haven't seen his previous postings. I can tell you, though, that he has already said, on this thread, that he was on probation. In our household, there are "stepped infractions", and direct defiance/disobedience is a 'top step' infraction. We have a two-strike policy for intentional disobedience, if it relates to unhealthy behavioral patterns that we are working to resolve. If you breach the "stop" point once in a rolling 30-day period, you're put on warning, and a more strict policy is set in place that further limits the ability to access the tools of that compulsion... if the "stop point" is breached a second time in that 30-day period, you are dismissed. There is no discussion or negotiation. The reason we do it this way is because we are not a professional rehab center, and if our methods are not helpful, or the servant is not capable of restraining hirself even enough to help with hir own recovery, then our household is not the right place for dealing with the problem. (Informationally, we have a one-strike policy for blatant disobedience where there is no existing plan to assist in managing an ongoing compulsion/addiction). In the OP's case, this could be perceived as a "first strike", because of the nature of the offense - however, if there have been multiple infractions leading up to this, I, too, would show this person the door.

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RE: What would you do in this situation? - 6/2/2010 3:05:36 PM   
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Just read MistressXbox's post.  This isn't about an Xbox game.  It's a much bigger issue of values and compatibility.  Were I the dominant in this case, I'd be concerned about a new submissive who was incapable, at this early stage, of following agreements.  More importantly, when the submissive could see this was an important issue to me, if they still continued to thwart me, I'd wonder if we were well matched.  The fact lurch999 bought the game... not a big deal in my opinion.  People agree to things and slip up, making mistakes.  That's human.  The problem, in my opinion, is that lurch999 wouldn't correct his mistake and wouldn't follow his dominant's wishes.  Granted, I'm giving more weight to MistressXbox's version of events, but if this is the case as she has written, there seems like a significant difference in commitment to the agreements and ideals of the BDSM relationship in place.

In my opinion, especially for a newbie, handing over all (or large areas of) decision making is a big deal and not something that is terribly realistic at the outset of a relationship.  Perhaps this was an overly lofty starting place, albeit I can see the logic and romance in it.  It requires one to trust someone else with their fiances and to trust that another person's judgment is better than our own... not at all a small thing and not something many people are used to doing.  It usually takes quite some time getting to know someone and observing and learning their actions before this kind of trust develops.  So... to MistressXbox and to lurch999, I think there are some things worth thinking about before jumping into a similar scenario (together or with other partners).

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