RE: fired for being an atheist

Collarspace Discussion Forums

Home Login Search

RE: fired for being an atheist

View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest

All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> RE: fired for being an atheist

Page: << < prev 1 2 [3] 4 5 next > >>

Message

<< Older Topic Newer Topic >>

RE: fired for being an atheist - 6/4/2010 2:42:33 PM

DomKen

Posts: 19457
Joined: 7/4/2004
From: Chicago, IL
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Fellow

quote:

Teaching math ( "the language of Reality" ) by a christian can not meet high level teaching standards.

A good math teacher should be at least agnostic. It should be noticed the language of "Reality" often precedes empirical science. It suggests structure, a blueprint.

No. It does not. Take pi or e both are vital to our understanding of the natural world. Both are concrete concepts that definitely have a value. Neither can be accurately expressed in mathematics.

(in reply to Fellow)

Profile

Post #: 41

RE: fired for being an atheist - 6/4/2010 3:49:12 PM

JstAnotherSub

Posts: 6174
Status: offline

well, it is a catholic school. they have the right to fire her as far as i am concerned. she had to know she ran the risk of this happening when she joined that group.

_____________________________

yep

(in reply to GotSteel)

Profile

Post #: 42

RE: fired for being an atheist - 6/4/2010 3:50:06 PM

pahunkboy

Posts: 33061
Joined: 2/26/2006
From: Central Pennsylvania
Status: offline

Why would she even want to work there?

(in reply to JstAnotherSub)

Profile

Post #: 43

RE: fired for being an atheist - 6/4/2010 4:57:46 PM

tazzygirl

Posts: 37833
Joined: 10/12/2007
Status: offline

Its a job, pa.

_____________________________

Telling me to take Midol wont help your butthurt.
RIP, my demon-child 5-16-11
Duchess of Dissent 1
Dont judge me because I sin differently than you.
If you want it sugar coated, dont ask me what i think! It would violate TOS.

(in reply to pahunkboy)

Profile

Post #: 44

RE: fired for being an atheist - 6/4/2010 6:25:19 PM

pahunkboy

Posts: 33061
Joined: 2/26/2006
From: Central Pennsylvania
Status: offline

So she is an actress.

(in reply to tazzygirl)

Profile

Post #: 45

RE: fired for being an atheist - 6/4/2010 6:28:33 PM

MstrPBK

Posts: 573
Joined: 1/2/2008
Status: offline

I see a Freedom of Religion Court Case in the future of someone real soon here.

MstrPBK
St. Paul, MN USa

(in reply to pahunkboy)

Profile

Post #: 46

RE: fired for being an atheist - 6/4/2010 6:34:10 PM

ThatDamnedPanda

Posts: 6060
Joined: 1/26/2009
Status: offline

I fail to see the problem here. Everyone knows how anti-religion I am, but as far as I'm concerned that school had every right to do exactly what they did. Their school, their rules, and she agreed to them when she accepted the job. Open and shut case.

_____________________________

Panda, panda, burning bright
In the forest of the night
What immortal hand or eye
Made you all black and white and roly-poly like that?

(in reply to MstrPBK)

Profile

Post #: 47

RE: fired for being an atheist - 6/4/2010 6:43:52 PM

tazzygirl

Posts: 37833
Joined: 10/12/2007
Status: offline

IF they take no public funding, Panda. Since the majority of church based schools do get federal money, then they should follow the same rules as everyone else.

Her downfall was facebook. Someone she has on her "friends" list there isnt a friend. I have a facebook account to play games, i rarely post anything because it can, and often does, come back to bite you in the ass.

_____________________________

Telling me to take Midol wont help your butthurt.
RIP, my demon-child 5-16-11
Duchess of Dissent 1
Dont judge me because I sin differently than you.
If you want it sugar coated, dont ask me what i think! It would violate TOS.

(in reply to ThatDamnedPanda)

Profile

Post #: 48

RE: fired for being an atheist - 6/4/2010 6:45:15 PM

Owner59

Posts: 17033
Joined: 3/14/2006
From: Dirty Jersey
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: bondmaid123

~FR~

She wasn't fired for being incompetent in her *job*. She was fired (at least according to what we know) for violating the terms of her employment.

I don't understand how this is so difficult to grasp.

Which in her case was a thought crime.

Stupid thought criminals!

The whole thing sucks.

_____________________________

"As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals"

President Obama

(in reply to bondmaid123)

Profile

Post #: 49

RE: fired for being an atheist - 6/4/2010 6:49:48 PM

pahunkboy

Posts: 33061
Joined: 2/26/2006
From: Central Pennsylvania
Status: offline

gosh- what is someone faked being her.

(in reply to Owner59)

Profile

Post #: 50

RE: fired for being an atheist - 6/4/2010 6:52:17 PM

ThatDamnedPanda

Posts: 6060
Joined: 1/26/2009
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

IF they take no public funding, Panda. Since the majority of church based schools do get federal money, then they should follow the same rules as everyone else.

Hm. I hadn't thought about that.

Damn it. The whole thing was so simple up until a moment ago!

_____________________________

Panda, panda, burning bright
In the forest of the night
What immortal hand or eye
Made you all black and white and roly-poly like that?

(in reply to tazzygirl)

Profile

Post #: 51

RE: fired for being an atheist - 6/4/2010 7:00:49 PM

tazzygirl

Posts: 37833
Joined: 10/12/2007
Status: offline

LOL

leave it to a woman to confuse a man's mind!

_____________________________

Telling me to take Midol wont help your butthurt.
RIP, my demon-child 5-16-11
Duchess of Dissent 1
Dont judge me because I sin differently than you.
If you want it sugar coated, dont ask me what i think! It would violate TOS.

(in reply to ThatDamnedPanda)

Profile

Post #: 52

RE: fired for being an atheist - 6/4/2010 7:04:29 PM

ThatDamnedPanda

Posts: 6060
Joined: 1/26/2009
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

gosh- what is someone faked being her.

Then they're going to go to hell!

_____________________________

Panda, panda, burning bright
In the forest of the night
What immortal hand or eye
Made you all black and white and roly-poly like that?

(in reply to pahunkboy)

Profile

Post #: 53

RE: fired for being an atheist - 6/4/2010 7:06:07 PM

ThatDamnedPanda

Posts: 6060
Joined: 1/26/2009
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

LOL

leave it to a woman to confuse a man's mind!

"Women... did God make a mistake - or did he do that to us on purpose?"

_____________________________

Panda, panda, burning bright
In the forest of the night
What immortal hand or eye
Made you all black and white and roly-poly like that?

(in reply to tazzygirl)

Profile

Post #: 54

RE: fired for being an atheist - 6/4/2010 7:22:42 PM

Brain

Posts: 3792
Joined: 2/14/2007
Status: offline

I don't agree the firing is warranted. I think for too long employers have had too many rights they don't deserve like in this case. As long as the person does their job well there is no justifiable reason to fire an employee for what they do or believe in their personal life.

quote:

ORIGINAL: myotherself

She used her real name - that was stupid.

If she'd used a screen name, she would most likely have been fine.

As for the firing - yes, it was warranted. She broke the terms and conditions of employment. Nobody forced her to take the job, and no-one held her at gunpoint to sign the contract. She did it willingly and of her own free will. If she did so without reading it thoroughly, then that's her fault. It's got nothing to do with being an atheist - it's all to do with her being dumb.

(in reply to myotherself)

Profile

Post #: 55

RE: fired for being an atheist - 6/4/2010 7:30:40 PM

Brain

Posts: 3792
Joined: 2/14/2007
Status: offline

In my personal experience I find religious people to be the least forgiving. For example, Stephen Harper, a conservative Prime Minister in Canada, wants to change the law not to give criminals pardons when they have served their debt to society. Hypocrites these guys are - Steven Harper and George Bush.
Of course I mean George Bush for giving Scotter Libby a pardon.

quote:

ORIGINAL: lazarus1983

Since they're Catholics, shouldn't they just forgive her? I think they have to.

(in reply to lazarus1983)

Profile

Post #: 56

RE: fired for being an atheist - 6/4/2010 7:34:06 PM

Brain

Posts: 3792
Joined: 2/14/2007
Status: offline

Unless she did something illegal they should have no right to fire her.

quote:

ORIGINAL: bondmaid123

~FR~

She wasn't fired for being incompetent in her *job*. She was fired (at least according to what we know) for violating the terms of her employment.

I don't understand how this is so difficult to grasp.

(in reply to bondmaid123)

Profile

Post #: 57

RE: fired for being an atheist - 6/4/2010 7:35:30 PM

Brain

Posts: 3792
Joined: 2/14/2007
Status: offline

It means other people should mind their own bloody business.

quote:

ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

quote:

ORIGINAL: lazarus1983

Since they're Catholics, shouldn't they just forgive her? I think they have to.

Does forgive mean letting her be a loose cannon? As in a chance to do it again?

(in reply to pahunkboy)

Profile

Post #: 58

RE: fired for being an atheist - 6/4/2010 7:35:37 PM

tazzygirl

Posts: 37833
Joined: 10/12/2007
Status: offline

Ahem. There are two prongs to wrong doing... forgiveness and penance. As far as the teacher, i dont feel she did anything wrong. In fact, she did her best to hide her activities from her students on facebook.

_____________________________

Telling me to take Midol wont help your butthurt.
RIP, my demon-child 5-16-11
Duchess of Dissent 1
Dont judge me because I sin differently than you.
If you want it sugar coated, dont ask me what i think! It would violate TOS.

(in reply to Brain)

Profile

Post #: 59

RE: fired for being an atheist - 6/4/2010 7:38:59 PM

Brain

Posts: 3792
Joined: 2/14/2007
Status: offline

Catholics should be forced to hire atheists just like a racist should be forced to rent an apartment to a black person or to hire a black person - for me it's the same thing.

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

~FR

Many corporations protect their image and names in this manner. Moral clauses abound. A screen name will only protect you if you dont bring up the place where you work, live, people you associate with, ect. Once you drag a company into the blog, you are open to all speculations said company wants to impose upon you.

(in reply to tazzygirl)

Profile

Post #: 60