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RE: Joran van der Sloot - 5 years later - 3/7/2011 8:45:07 PM

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It's all over. The punk punched a guard and tried to escape. He's now being moved to the general population. He won't last long.

Update: Unfortunately, I was wrong. That was five months ago, and he's still alive and kicking. The fact that he's been in solitary has a lot to do with that.

The latest is that he's asking to get the reduced charge of manslaughter. http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/americas/03/07/peru.van.der.sloot.defense/index.html?hpt=T2

That basically means that he thinks this is his best chance. To state that he flew into a murderous rage when his victim read an email. Not much of a defense. In addition, his lawyer disputes that there was any robbery, when he took cash and credit cards from her wallet.

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RE: Joran van der Sloot - 5 years later - 1/11/2012 6:38:02 PM

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He just pled guilty. http://news.yahoo.com/van-der-sloot-pleads-guilty-killing-peru-woman-154409930.html

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RE: Joran van der Sloot - 5 years later - 1/11/2012 6:44:26 PM

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The little moron stated that he went into a rage because his victim read something on his laptop pertaining to the Holloway case.

The bozo just made the contents of the laptop evidence, and the cops will get access to them. Then the Aruban authorities can demand it under discovery.

I'm not 100% certain that he is a sociopathic killer. I think there's a chance that he's a druggie who finances his jones by murder and theft.

I'll bet you even money he is a sociopathic killer.

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RE: Joran van der Sloot - 5 years later - 1/11/2012 7:17:41 PM

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That basically means that he thinks this is his best chance. To state that he flew into a murderous rage when his victim read an email.

I have been pondering these past few days whether he might be impotent. However, I think not.

Too, I doubt him having been enraged. Indeed, she may have spotted something inadvertently on his laptop and he may have murdered her for it. If so, it was a cold-blooded murder.

One thing is for certain, as I stated about one year ago on this thread already: anything he says most likely is a lie. He is a pathological liar.

ETA: Hm, apparently there is an extradition treaty between Peru and the USA. That may be the next step after his conviction: a request by the USA to have him extradited.

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RE: Joran van der Sloot - 5 years later - 1/11/2012 7:57:15 PM

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He just pled guilty. http://news.yahoo.com/van-der-sloot-pleads-guilty-killing-peru-woman-154409930.html

Actually his pleading guilty was a strategic move on his part. Had this gone to trial and had he then been found guilty he would have gotten a much heavier sentence. But by pleading guilty he will only get a 30 year sentence which could be as little as 15 years as stated in your link. So by pleading guilty he gets off easy.

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RE: Joran van der Sloot - 5 years later - 1/11/2012 8:10:11 PM

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And he blamed the stress from all the accusations in the Natalie Holloway case. Of course it's not his fault. Poor thing.

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RE: Joran van der Sloot - 5 years later - 1/13/2012 10:06:27 AM

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This creep got just 28 years. In my mind another argument in favor of the death penalty. If he gets out in 20 years or maybe even before that, there is no doubt in my mind that he will kill again.

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RE: Joran van der Sloot - 5 years later - 1/13/2012 10:07:21 AM

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The most in that country he could have gotten was 30 years, sadly.

But, keep in mind, his ability to travel afterwards is severely limited.

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RE: Joran van der Sloot - 5 years later - 1/13/2012 10:09:36 AM

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In that part of the world, your ability to travel depends heavily upon who you know and your bankroll.

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RE: Joran van der Sloot - 5 years later - 1/13/2012 10:17:26 AM

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Do you believe he would be allowed into the US with a felony on his record?

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RE: Joran van der Sloot - 5 years later - 1/13/2012 10:20:00 AM

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I believe the Feds want to prosecute him for extortion if he gets out. Otherwise no, he wouldn't get into the US. Maybe someone will just take him out before he gets released and do everyone a favor.

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RE: Joran van der Sloot - 5 years later - 1/13/2012 10:20:44 AM

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Do you believe he would be allowed into the US with a felony on his record?

Theres 195 other countries he can go to and I don't think he has ever been here.
As for coming to the US. He MIGHT be allowed in as he hasn't been charged in the US (bet he'd be a fool to try because he might be charged)
If he really wanted to come here, there's a hundred ways to do it without going thru immigration. He has Anglo looks and if he speaks fluent English, noone would ever look at him twice.

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RE: Joran van der Sloot - 5 years later - 1/13/2012 10:23:57 AM

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It would be very difficult for him to get a valid passport to travel anywhere.

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RE: Joran van der Sloot - 5 years later - 1/13/2012 10:26:51 AM

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He's obviously a sociopath.
We need to have some testing program to ferret out sociopaths/psychopaths when they're young and then put them down.
They do far too much damage to too many human beings.
One day little Johnny is led out of sixth grade classroom and no-one ever see's him again. "Johnny won't be down for breakfast anymore."
They're "human" in the sense that they're flesh and blood but that's where it ends.
One lady I know summed it up nicely; "They're beings that don't have a soul."

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RE: Joran van der Sloot - 5 years later - 1/13/2012 10:30:14 AM

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It would be very difficult for him to get a valid passport to travel anywhere.

You're missing my point. In latin america, cash is king. If you have it, you can do anything, have anything or go anywhere you want.

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RE: Joran van der Sloot - 5 years later - 1/13/2012 10:47:25 AM

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Do you believe he would be allowed into the US with a felony on his record?

Theres 195 other countries he can go to and I don't think he has ever been here.
As for coming to the US. He MIGHT be allowed in as he hasn't been charged in the US (bet he'd be a fool to try because he might be charged)
If he really wanted to come here, there's a hundred ways to do it without going thru immigration. He has Anglo looks and if he speaks fluent English, noone would ever look at him twice.

Anyone with a criminal conviction of any kind is refused entry into the US (& various other countries).. the US has access to databases of many countries, maybe all of them, to access criminal records.. they dont care how old the charge was or what it was for, if they see it you will be turned away.. Even Bush when he was Prez needed special permission to enter Canada since he had a DUI on his record. During the Olympics, Canadian Ross Rebagliat was turned away from the US just cuz he had admitted publicly that he had smoked pot at one time. If someone with a criminal record wants to enter the US then they need to likely hire an lawyer and apply for a wavier which could take up to a year or so.. no guarantee they will give you one..

and yes, he could try to enter illegally or by some other way but it would still be very hard to do.. imo.. He would have to make it to Mexico, find a coyote and walk cross the desert..

But really, why in the world would he even want to come to the US? He never bothered to before.. much easier for him to live someplace where cops can be bought..

http://norml.org/news/2002/02/07/pot-admission-bars-former-olympian-entry-to-us

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RE: Joran van der Sloot - 5 years later - 1/13/2012 10:52:07 AM

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With your last sentence, you hit my exact point tj.

He has no reason to want to come here. If he did, we have thousands of miles of shoreline and unpatrolled border to cross but he will be happier in places where cash is king and cops are poorly paid.

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RE: Joran van der Sloot - 5 years later - 1/13/2012 10:59:07 AM

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With your last sentence, you hit my exact point tj.

He has no reason to want to come here. If he did, we have thousands of miles of shoreline and unpatrolled border to cross but he will be happier in places where cash is king and cops are poorly paid.

yes,.. but how much money does he have? or will have when his mother dies? If you have money, yes, living in those countries could be quite pleasant... but if ya dont have any.. then what??? (not that i give a shit about the guy should he ever be released)..

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RE: Joran van der Sloot - 5 years later - 1/13/2012 11:00:44 AM

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His family is apparently pretty wealthy.

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RE: Joran van der Sloot - 5 years later - 1/13/2012 11:51:31 AM

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His Dad is dead and his Mother will not see him.

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