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DommeKeliDallas -> Crossdressers and REAL women and LTR. (6/5/2010 8:46:44 PM)
I am interested in knowing how REAL women feel about Domming crossdressers and having personal relationships with them.

LittleBroken -> RE: Crossdressers and REAL women and LTR. (6/5/2010 8:55:26 PM)
I'd be in a relationship with a Cross dresser in a heartbeat but then I have a very liberal attitude. I'm attracted to whom I'm attracted to and I don't see gender as a limiting factor.

LadyNTrainer -> RE: Crossdressers and REAL women and LTR. (6/5/2010 8:58:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DommeKeliDallas I am interested in knowing how REAL women feel about Domming crossdressers and having personal relationships with them. Depends on the crossdresser. Ultimately we're still talking about a human being here, so if he looks hot cross dressed and we share a lot of vanilla interests, then abso-fuckin-lutely. If he's some random perv who is all about his fetish and nothing else, and we have nothing in common and no compatibility or chemistry, then not so much. Genderbending can be incredibly hot, but I will say that I am totally turned off by the humiliation crossdresser who considers women a lower life form and thinks it is degrading to be dressed like one. That's a hard limit in my personal life.

cloudboy -> RE: Crossdressers and REAL women and LTR. (6/5/2010 9:09:39 PM)
Why don't you state your position as a start?

LittleBroken -> RE: Crossdressers and REAL women and LTR. (6/5/2010 9:10:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyNTrainer quote: ORIGINAL: DommeKeliDallas I am interested in knowing how REAL women feel about Domming crossdressers and having personal relationships with them. Depends on the crossdresser. Ultimately we're still talking about a human being here, so if he looks hot cross dressed and we share a lot of vanilla interests, then abso-fuckin-lutely. If he's some random perv who is all about his fetish and nothing else, and we have nothing in common and no compatibility or chemistry, then not so much. Genderbending can be incredibly hot, but I will say that I am totally turned off by the humiliation crossdresser who considers women a lower life form and thinks it is degrading to be dressed like one. That's a hard limit in my personal life. Said better than I did. Thanks L'n'T

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Crossdressers and REAL women and LTR. (6/5/2010 9:17:03 PM)
It's a fascinating topic how females are still not comfortable giving the power to wear womens clothing to men.

sunshinemiss -> RE: Crossdressers and REAL women and LTR. (6/5/2010 9:20:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DommeKeliDallas I am interested in knowing how REAL women feel about Domming crossdressers and having personal relationships with them. I am interested in knowing if you ever have an opinion of your own or if you just take?

DommeKeliDallas -> RE: Crossdressers and REAL women and LTR. (6/5/2010 9:32:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy Why don't you state your position as a start? I have lived with a TV and a CD, and have lad relationships with others. I totally agree with LadyNTrainer...every word. She put it more eloquently. Sissies are fun too...but most are a little too "out there" for me. I would get back into an LTR with either if the attraction was there.

DommeKeliDallas -> RE: Crossdressers and REAL women and LTR. (6/5/2010 9:41:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss quote: ORIGINAL: DommeKeliDallas I am interested in knowing how REAL women feel about Domming crossdressers and having personal relationships with them. I got shot down for having an opinion and was accused of self-promotion. I was trying to be careful this time.

LadyNTrainer -> RE: Crossdressers and REAL women and LTR. (6/5/2010 9:44:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross It's a fascinating topic how females are still not comfortable giving the power to wear womens clothing to men. Most vanillas aren't comfortable with gender transgressive acts; that's why they're vanillas. I think it's fantastic if a man wants to be pretty in ways that are "supposed" to be feminine, or if a transgendered or genderqueer person decides to express themselves freely and proudly. That's awesome sauce. Also, it can be seriously fucking hot. It does give me the creeps when a misogynistic guy clearly thinks women are a lower life form, sexually active women are the lowest life form of all, and he gets his kicks being degraded by being "forced" to be a mere female. I honestly don't see how that can be taken as anything but negative and insulting to women. Crossdressing itself is just fine with me, but I need to know why they are doing it, and I need them to take responsibility for doing it. I don't mind helping, but don't tell me to "force" you to do something you don't have the guts to admit you like doing for its own sake. If I think the underlying reason he crossdresses is that he's basically stuck in a male dominant mindset (eg, only women are lowly, degraded and submissive, so he has to be made feminine in order to submit), he's permanently off my personal radar. That is so very not hot to me. Now a pretty, genderbending boi who takes the time to look freakin' GOOD in what he puts on, oh hell yeah, give me some of that. Extra points if he is willing to make out with other pretty bois. That is seriously hot, and I want some. I won't be shy about getting me some if it walks within decent propositioning range of me and my pansexual partner, as we tend to have fairly similar tastes in ladyboys. wicked evil grin

sunshinemiss -> RE: Crossdressers and REAL women and LTR. (6/5/2010 9:56:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DommeKeliDallas I got shot down for having an opinion and was accused of self-promotion. I was trying to be careful this time. Ahhh... once bitten twice shy, eh? I'd still be interested in hearing your side. As for crossdressers - for me if it was a gal dressing as a man... I'm down with that. A man dressed as a woman? Nope. I don't know why. I choose not to analyze it. It comes down to one thing. It doesn't blow my skirt up. Best, sunshine

LadyAngelika -> RE: Crossdressers and REAL women and LTR. (6/5/2010 10:08:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DommeKeliDallas I am interested in knowing how REAL women feel about Domming crossdressers and having personal relationships with them. I'd like to know what qualifies as woman as REAL. Biologically women? I figure if a Domme and a crossdresser want to have a relationship, who should stop them? - LA

LadyHibiscus -> RE: Crossdressers and REAL women and LTR. (6/5/2010 10:19:47 PM)
Not a turn-on for me, but I know a lot of cool crossdressers! If that spark happens, it happens.

sweetsub1957 -> RE: Crossdressers and REAL women and LTR. (6/5/2010 10:29:50 PM)
~Fast Reply~ i'm not a Domme, but i did meet a Dom Who was a cross-dresser. He looked pretty hot in women's clothes, but what it came down to was, i'm not into being Dommed by a man that looks like a woman. i have nothing against them but, like sunshinemiss says, it doesn't blow my skirt up. lol ~sweetsub~

SocratesNot -> RE: Crossdressers and REAL women and LTR. (6/5/2010 10:45:09 PM)
quote: but I need to know why they are doing it I don't consider myself a crossdresser, because I don't do it regularly, and now I don't do it at all, but few times I did it (when I was in high school), and when I did it, I wanted to look as gorgeous and sexy as possible. I tried to look exactly as a girl that I would usually fall in love with. And I even tried to emulate some feminine movements, and belly dancing. Doing all of this was incredibly hot, and of course I got hard on. That was the silly part, I looked like a girl, but with an erect dick. [:D] I am also completely disgusted by those who want to crossdress as a form of humiliation. There's absolutely nothing humiliating in being a woman, nor in crossdressing. Whenever I did crossdressing, I did it in a way to be like a real, desirable, elegant (and even powerful) woman, not some caricature of womanhood. Yes, power was an important component in my fantasy. I fantasized about being a powerful seductress who easily seduces just with her charms and femininity. However, there is one thing in crossdressing that was always a constant with me, I never wanted to change my sexual orientation, not even slightly. This is not homophobia or anything like that, I just never fantasized about guys. Masculinity simply doesn't attract me. If I'm gonna be a woman, I'll be a lesbian. I don't have anything against those who are bicurious or fantasize about being with guys, this is just not my cup of tea. Also, those who think that any of genders are lower life form are, in my opinion, idiots. Genders are equal and both of them have some characteristics that the other gender doesn't have, so each gender is superior in some things and should be very respected. I despise both misogynists and misandrists. I can tolerate Goreans, as long as they don't insist on women being inferior. I can tolerate Female Supremacists, as long as they just exalt women, without degrading men or advocating hatred towards men.

LittleBroken -> RE: Crossdressers and REAL women and LTR. (6/5/2010 10:51:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SocratesNot quote: but I need to know why they are doing it I don't consider myself a crossdresser, because I don't do it regularly, and now I don't do it at all, but few times I did it (when I was in high school), and when I did it, I wanted to look as gorgeous and sexy as possible. I tried to look exactly as a girl that I would usually fall in love with. And I even tried to emulate some feminine movements, and belly dancing. Doing all of this was incredibly hot, and of course I got hard on. That was the silly part, I looked like a girl, but with an erect dick. [:D] I am also completely disgusted by those who want to crossdress as a form of humiliation. There's absolutely nothing humiliating in being a woman, nor in crossdressing. Whenever I did crossdressing, I did it in a way to be like a real, desirable, elegant (and even powerful) woman, not some caricature of womanhood. Yes, power was an important component in my fantasy. I fantasized about being a powerful seductress who easily seduces just with her charms and femininity. However, there is one thing in crossdressing that was always a constant with me, I never wanted to change my sexual orientation, not even slightly. This is not homophobia or anything like that, I just never fantasized about guys. Masculinity simply doesn't attract me. If I'm gonna be a woman, I'll be a lesbian. I don't have anything against those who are bicurious or fantasize about being with guys, this is just not my cup of tea. Also, those who think that any of genders are lower life form are, in my opinion, idiots. Genders are equal and both of them have some characteristics that the other gender doesn't have, so each gender is superior in some things and should be very respected. I despise both misogynists and misandrists. I can tolerate Goreans, as long as they don't insist on women being inferior. I can tolerate Female Supremacists, as long as they just exalt women, without degrading men or advocating hatred towards men. Someone go check the thermostat in Hell because I really enjoyed reading this post from S.Not. [;)][:D] Well done, Sweetheart.

SocratesNot -> RE: Crossdressers and REAL women and LTR. (6/5/2010 11:01:50 PM)
quote: Someone go check the thermostat in Hell because I really enjoyed reading this post from S.Not. Well done, Sweetheart. Thank you! :blushes:

IronBear -> RE: Crossdressers and REAL women and LTR. (6/5/2010 11:27:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyNTrainer quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross It's a fascinating topic how females are still not comfortable giving the power to wear womens clothing to men. Most vanillas aren't comfortable with gender transgressive acts; that's why they're vanillas. I think it's fantastic if a man wants to be pretty in ways that are "supposed" to be feminine, or if a transgendered or genderqueer person decides to express themselves freely and proudly. That's awesome sauce. Also, it can be seriously fucking hot. It does give me the creeps when a misogynistic guy clearly thinks women are a lower life form, sexually active women are the lowest life form of all, and he gets his kicks being degraded by being "forced" to be a mere female. I honestly don't see how that can be taken as anything but negative and insulting to women. Crossdressing itself is just fine with me, but I need to know why they are doing it, and I need them to take responsibility for doing it. I don't mind helping, but don't tell me to "force" you to do something you don't have the guts to admit you like doing for its own sake. If I think the underlying reason he crossdresses is that he's basically stuck in a male dominant mindset (eg, only women are lowly, degraded and submissive, so he has to be made feminine in order to submit), he's permanently off my personal radar. That is so very not hot to me. Now a pretty, genderbending boi who takes the time to look freakin' GOOD in what he puts on, oh hell yeah, give me some of that. Extra points if he is willing to make out with other pretty bois. That is seriously hot, and I want some. I won't be shy about getting me some if it walks within decent propositioning range of me and my pansexual partner, as we tend to have fairly similar tastes in ladyboys. wicked evil grin What a jolly awesome and thought inspiring post, well said. Personally I have no issues here and have had friends who were proudly either cross dressers or gay of both genders. One such was lesbian who loved to cross dress. Never looked like some anti-male butch, but more like a young male exec from some share trading company. I not only enjoyed her company socially but was proud to be seen with her too. I tried it once for a fancy dress ball and won the prize as the worst male in drag ever. But I refuse to shave so that was that and not my personal scene. I value people for who and what they are and not by what some areas of society decide they should be. The lady found she was not as hard core lesbian as she thought after she told me she wanted to experiment having sex with a male and asked me to be that male. That for me was high praise indeed. To the OP: I understand what you are saying about being slammed and accused of advertising. However have you thought that it may not been your post as much as the way you wrote it. I think it could have been by your OP here. During my many years here on CM, I have found that people get much better responses when they ask their question followed by their current views and position on that matter. If you are seeking advise or help, then just add this to your comments about the question you have asked.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Crossdressers and REAL women and LTR. (6/5/2010 11:42:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyNTrainer Most vanillas aren't comfortable with gender transgressive acts; that's why they're vanillas. As if kinky peeps are any better, because they are not.

SocratesNot -> RE: Crossdressers and REAL women and LTR. (6/5/2010 11:45:27 PM)
quote: As if kinky peeps are any better, because they are not. Very true.

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