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MrRodgers -> RE: 43 years ago today, June 8th (6/14/2010 11:40:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

The Liberty incident has been investigated a whole lot by a lot of people. The consensus has always been that it was a massive fuck up by the IDF not some wild eyed conspiracy to start WW3.

I told you why the Israelis attacked the Liberty. The Israeli AF does not make a massive fuck up hours and hours engaging a vessel clearly identified as American.




MrRodgers -> RE: 43 years ago today, June 8th (6/14/2010 11:42:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DCWoody

Create a false flag.....against a nation already at war with?

Shit happens, it's almost never a conspiracy. This wasn't.


It is almost always a conspiracy the reliance being upon you that you will be believe the govt....no matter what they tell you.




MrRodgers -> RE: 43 years ago today, June 8th (6/14/2010 11:44:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DCWoody

Damn, you people can never admit when you're wrong.

I want proof I am wrong...so there.




MrRodgers -> RE: 43 years ago today, June 8th (6/14/2010 12:15:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Thompson, re your questions to me.

The Liberty was an intelligence gathering ship, so I suspect the Israelis could have been trying to keep things secret. I dont know enough to know if the Liberty could eavesdrop from where it was. I am assuming it could though.

The Liberty was attacked on the 8th. Operation Hammer, the codename for the attack on the Golan Heights, was launched the following day. This operation was initially cancelled then given the go ahead. I suspect Israel wanted to occupy the heights prior to any ceasefire. Moshe Dayan had said in his book that Israel always had an eye on the Golan Heights, and would send tractors into the area to tempt the Syrians to open fire. Sources are in the Wiki link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moshe_Dayan#Six_Day_War_.281967.29

Who do you feel authorised the attack and why ?

I believe it was for just about 15 years the Syrians fired artillery and mortar fire shells down on Israel. The Israelis decided not only that they were going to take it but once they did...they'd never let it go. I don't blame them...Israel is at war...still.




MrRodgers -> RE: 43 years ago today, June 8th (6/14/2010 1:19:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

"PROOF? "

If you are asserting that those who served on that ship are lying, in what is almost a deathbed statement, sorry, the burden of proof is on you.

In fact instead of that, why don't you just tell us the reasons, in your own words, just why they would lie under these circumstances ? Explain it to me so I may understand better how these old Men are benefitting from their collective prevarication ?

T


No.

What I am asserting is it was the mistake the Israelis claimed it to be and the U.S. accepted.

And I'm getting fucking sick of what is supposed to be a board discussing politics and religion being turned into one conspiracy theory after another.

Tough, the whole world is filled with conspiracy theories and the problem is, there...are conspiracies...all over the world.




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