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RE: Got a boy or boi serving me - 6/9/2010 2:16:49 PM   
laurell3


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Status: offline 		Ironically domi, SN said a similar thing....and no, I do believe that people can be in a dynamic for just service. It may be sexual to them in their minds, yes, but it doesn't necessarily mean that both are engaging in sex. I would never personally do it, but there definitely are people that do enter service dynamics with same sex partners and no sex. I have no idea how common it is, you may be correct on that, it's impossible to tell.



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RE: Got a boy or boi serving me - 6/9/2010 2:28:16 PM   
subtee


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ORIGINAL: domiguy

Unlike bad one....I rarely agree with anything that you ever think. If we look into the future and we were to line up every single thought you are ever going to have and then to place them in a row......See how the line stretches way out there?

It just so happens that your line of thoughts is much shorter than mine even though I am older than you. It might be that you pass on at a young age or maybe I just produce many more original thoughts than you do? Who knows?

But anyways, I digress from the matter at hand.

......See how the line stretches way out there?....Now if you look far off into the distance...It's so far in the distance that sky scrapers look like monopoly type of small little houses...See it? Anyways, that so happens to be in the year of 2037 and you just had the thought that salsa is good in scrambled eggs....I agree with you.

It's the first or the last time that this event ever occurs. Halley's comet comes along on a more frequent basis.

tight lines!!!!

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RE: Got a boy or boi serving me - 6/9/2010 3:15:21 PM   
whiteboytch


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Status: offline 		Humble greetings, Sir.

Having the boi may earn You an extra interest by some women. i was trained by Black Mistresses i served to submit to Black Men, against my initial wishes.

Black Men made me submit to them for white sub females to watch and these women loved it!

So why not find a kinkier more open-minded female outside of the pre-conceived notions and confines of Collarme?!

If Your privacy situation allows, I'd take him outside on a leash in heels, his clitte taped back in a thong, as small as allowed by the Law and parade him around on Sta. Monica Blvd.

If he won't do it - i will!

Trust me, You'll meet some very interesting people before the day is done, Sir.



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RE: Got a boy or boi serving me - 6/9/2010 3:44:07 PM   
domiguy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: whiteboytch

Humble greetings, Sir.

Having the boi may earn You an extra interest by some women. i was trained by Black Mistresses i served to submit to Black Men, against my initial wishes.

Black Men made me submit to them for white sub females to watch and these women loved it!

So why not find a kinkier more open-minded female outside of the pre-conceived notions and confines of Collarme?!

If Your privacy situation allows, I'd take him outside on a leash in heels, his clitte taped back in a thong, as small as allowed by the Law and parade him around on Sta. Monica Blvd.

If he won't do it - i will!

Trust me, You'll meet some very interesting people before the day is done, Sir.



No one cares about your wankfest.

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RE: Got a boy or boi serving me - 6/9/2010 6:01:11 PM   
Andalusite


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ORIGINAL: laurell3
I do believe that people can be in a dynamic for just service. It may be sexual to them in their minds, yes, but it doesn't necessarily mean that both are engaging in sex. I would never personally do it, but there definitely are people that do enter service dynamics with same sex partners and no sex.

I have a femsub playpartner who is service oriented, and we're not involved sexually or romantically. She and I started playing (with my Master's approval and occasional participation) about 7 months ago, and we originally met oh, 5 years ago or so. We also enjoy going out for coffee, walking, visiting museums, and hanging out with mutual friends. I don't consider her to be just "filling the gap," but if I started dating someone who did not want me to engage in any outside play, we would back off to just friends again. If they did want to play with both of us, or were ok with me continuing to play with her, then that would be ideal. They would need to meet her husband before playing with us regularly. She's willing to trust my judgement if it's only once or twice, and I'm directly involved in the scene. I'm not looking for a new relationship right now, but once I do, I generally prefer to play at least once before making a commitment. I don't feel I can judge chemistry without that. I'm not sure if I'll go into that much detail on my profile once I re-activate it, more for the opposite reason. I'm a little concerned that they'll go "ooh, two-fer special on girlz! *pant* *drool*" and their reading comprehension for the rest of the profile would be affected.

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP
Are you looking for a poly situation or a monogamous one? If poly, then I imagine most people would think worse of you for hiding him. What are you planning to do if you do meet a female? Kick him to the curb and pretend you never played with him?

When I was in the relationship with my Master and interacting with my playpartner, I didn't think of our relationship as poly, more "monogamous with room for play," since we weren't romantically or sexually involved. Maybe that's just semantics, though. If he finds a woman who isn't comfortable with him continuing to interact with this male submissive, then I wouldn't think poorly of him for abiding by her boundaries and ceasing involvement with the submissive, as long as he was up-front about it being a possibility/probability. I agree that hiding it would be dishonest, though.

Flogger, I don't think you need to mention your male service sub/playpartner in your profile, and I agree that doing S/M or bondage or allowing him to serve you in non-sexual ways doesn't make you bisexual. However, you do need to mention him within the first 2-3 e-mails, especially if you plan to continue having him do things for you. Most of the women who have posted have said they would be fine with that situation, so I don't understand why you would feel the need to hide it in the first place.

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RE: Got a boy or boi serving me - 6/9/2010 8:47:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Going to have both a male and female serving me together.  Create a leather family of sorts is the plan no need to hide any one.

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RE: Got a boy or boi serving me - 6/10/2010 9:45:16 AM   
flogger


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Status: offline 		 long time no see!  How is is going warlock been a while.

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RE: Got a boy or boi serving me - 6/12/2010 1:18:17 AM   
ryanErlanger


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Status: offline 		There is no consent apart from informed consent. Without delivering relevant information to your partners, you cannot have their true consent. And without that consent, you do not have submission... you have from them a lie, formed from your own lie of omission.

I would say it is better to make sure you are on the same page with them.

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RE: Got a boy or boi serving me - 6/12/2010 1:42:43 AM   
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RE: Got a boy or boi serving me - 6/12/2010 7:15:57 AM   
kiwisub12


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Status: offline 		Agreed - heck if i was a prospective sub, having a male sub around to help with house work would be a plus!   And don't hide him , and don't sound like you despise him when you talk about him - it doesn't reflect well upon you. Treat him well and the relationship will do you honour.

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RE: Got a boy or boi serving me - 6/12/2010 7:43:43 AM   
LanceHughes


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quote:

ORIGINAL: domiguy
Sometimes I wish I was queer. *sighssss*... Jeffff, pa, dc and myself watching the Wizard of Oz. Sitting in a circle, holding hands around a barrel of AstroGlide.

WARNING: Thread-jack about to happen!
You got it wrong! NO chance you'll ever "become" Gay!
Regards, Lance Hughes

P.S. So, what did you get wrong?  In such a scenario,
A) you wouldn't sit around the barrel.... you'd be using the AstroGlide (do I have to mention using it in time to each person's favorite song, WHILE everyone sings along? Jeffff WILL be un-masked as an imposter at this point. LOL!)

and B) you forgot to include a Dom (Ahem!) directing traffic. [/thread-jack]
We now return to our regularly scheduled thread where Lance says:

Polyamory? Nah...... you have the beginnings of what *I* would call a "House."  I once tried to start a house with a lover and a slave (applicant).  Told the lover, "You are not his lover any more than you are his slave or you his."  Told the slave (applicant) "You will not be his slave any more than you are his lover or you his."

Y'all following that? I had a hard time getting it right as I typed it. LOL!

The lesson is that COMMUNICATION is the by-word.  In this instance, you can introduce your current male "assignation" as "my house slave."  Sounds like that is what he is.... nothing more and nothing less.

Females might "go" for that in a big way - - - they know they won't be expected to "do" the 50's style.  They can "relax" and concentrate on being the princess, the concubine, the eye-candy on your arm......

Am I right, ladies, or am I right?

ETA:  Sorry, I missed this:
quote:

ORIGINAL: flogger
Going to have both a male and female serving me together.  Create a leather family of sorts is the plan no need to hide any one.

Yep. A leather house instead of BDSM poly.  Just another example of two cultures separated by a common language.

< Message edited by LanceHughes -- 6/12/2010 7:52:38 AM >

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RE: Got a boy or boi serving me - 6/12/2010 4:58:16 PM   
LanceHughes


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Status: offline 		WHAT?  Lance kills his third thread for the day!

Either I know what I'm doing or I really, really, really don't.

I'll go with the former, thank you.

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RE: Got a boy or boi serving me - 6/13/2010 11:22:02 AM   
Andalusite


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Status: offline 		I think they tend to naturally slow down after a day or two, depending on how controversial they are. I agree that a lot of female submissives or slaves would probably be happy to not need to do the housework, gardening, etc. or to share the burden. I've occasionally played before with a gay submissive friend of mine. It would be absurd to suggest that he was straight rather than gay just because I tied him up and thwacked him!

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RE: Got a boy or boi serving me - 6/15/2010 12:44:46 PM   
JhonDean


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quote:

Going to have both a male and female serving me together. Create a leather family of sorts is the plan no need to hide any one.


If you have taken this boy as a means of appeasing loneliness and been honest with him then simply have the courage of your convictions and conduct yourself in an honorable manner.
It will be the honorable man future submissives ( male and female) will see.

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RE: Got a boy or boi serving me - 6/16/2010 5:26:16 AM   
masterlink65


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Status: offline 		why does master/slave always equal out to gender specific bullshit like this? are you that self conscious about it, then get rid of your boy.

what helps and hurts you as a master is your lack of confidence in all this. what the fuck do you care what others think? if he is NOT your slave as you go on to say later, then tell people he is not, stop carrying him on your arm like your slave, and maybe people will see you as something besides a wishy washy, what the hell is that guy all about kinda guy you seem to be posing as. if people are introducing him to others as your slave, then somewhere along the line you must have told these people he is your slave. how else would these people think he is your slave, and bother to introduce him as such?

i dont think you know what the fuck your talking about. just cause you hog tie someone doesnt make them your slave.

is he your slave or not? if he is, be proud of it, so your slave can be proud too. if he is not your slave, then move the fuck on

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RE: Got a boy or boi serving me - 6/16/2010 5:32:16 AM   
JhonDean


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quote:

why does master/slave always equal out to gender specific bullshit like this? are you that self conscious about it, then get rid of your boy.

what helps and hurts you as a master is your lack of confidence in all this. what the fuck do you care what others think? if he is NOT your slave as you go on to say later, then tell people he is not, stop carrying him on your arm like your slave, and maybe people will see you as something besides a wishy washy, what the hell is that guy all about kinda guy you seem to be posing as. if people are introducing him to others as your slave, then somewhere along the line you must have told these people he is your slave. how else would these people think he is your slave, and bother to introduce him as such?

i dont think you know what the fuck your talking about. just cause you hog tie someone doesnt make them your slave.

is he your slave or not? if he is, be proud of it, so your slave can be proud too. if he is not your slave, then move the fuck on


I beleive you and I said the same thing...but you termed it better.

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