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RE: M/s and IQ and wisdom - 6/10/2010 6:36:08 AM   
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People have this opinion that classical music is somehow superior to other forms, it's snobbery for the most part. I see the same repetitive techniques used in classical that I see used in dance music.


For some it's snobbery for some it is not. Dance music is EXTREMELY repetitive. In classical music there is very little repetition, instead there are lot of variations on the single theme and development of musical ideas. Also classical music is usually simply more beautiful and can express deeper emotions than dance music.

But this does not mean that dance music is bad. With dance music you can dance, you can work out, you can rave, with classical usually not.


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RE: M/s and IQ and wisdom - 6/10/2010 6:36:32 AM   
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As such, I am going to start a fund.  All monies received will be placed in a trust until we have enough to get SocratesNot a domme to call his own.  I am already beginning an exhaustive search on the other side, and I have no doubt the one is on here somewhere.  It is only a matter of someone (me) putting in enough effort to find her.

I am sure Socrates would search for his own domme, if he were not so busy sharing all his wonderful thoughts and deep musings with all of us.

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RE: M/s and IQ and wisdom - 6/10/2010 6:42:38 AM   
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I like to think I am a kind and giving soul.  Do unto others, love thy neighbor, all that jazz.

As such, I am going to start a fund.  All monies received will be placed in a trust until we have enough to get SocratesNot a domme to call his own.  I am already beginning an exhaustive search on the other side, and I have no doubt the one is on here somewhere.  It is only a matter of someone (me) putting in enough effort to find her.

I am sure Socrates would search for his own domme, if he were not so busy sharing all his wonderful thoughts and deep musings with all of us.

Below is the ad I plan to place in all the local lifestyle magazines (if such a thing exists).  Feel free to copy it and place it in any venue you feel might aid in the search for this young person to find bliss.

Wanted
 
One true domme. Please send quote of what you require.  All we request is that you have a home or dungeon, free of outside distractions, such as internet access.  We offer you a most wonderful, thinking, philosopher who will amaze you non-stop.

Call BR-549, ask for Vinnie.

Thank you.




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RE: M/s and IQ and wisdom - 6/10/2010 8:13:32 AM   
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In classical music there is very little repetition, instead there are lot of variations on the single theme and development of musical ideas.


Nonsense--repetition is frequent in classical music, including entire sections.

Yes, those motifs are developed in better classical music---but they are in better jazz and pop too.

Great music and crappy music exist across genres.

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RE: M/s and IQ and wisdom - 6/10/2010 8:22:51 AM   
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RE: M/s and IQ and wisdom - 6/10/2010 8:48:18 AM   
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If I am wiser and smarter, how can she know better than me what is best for us and for our relationship? No way! So, she must be both wiser and smarter than me, only then I could accept her authority as legitimate.

Given your latest black or white threads, I seriously would not worry too much about this.

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RE: M/s and IQ and wisdom - 6/10/2010 8:52:06 AM   
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Great music and crappy music exist across genres.


I agree. There are rock and pop songs that I really love. And there are classical pieces that I find dull and boring.

But as a general tendency I would have to say that repetition is less prominent feature in classical music, and even when it is used, repetition is used for emphasize and often with different intensity. For example, in recapitulation introductory motive can be repeated, but with much stronger volume and more instruments etc. In general, I think classical music has more complexity and is usually less commercial - the primary motive of a classical composer is not sales of albums, but artistic expression.

While, in popular music, even in the best types of pop and rock - commercial element more often than not plays a significant role.


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RE: M/s and IQ and wisdom - 6/10/2010 8:58:10 AM   
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black or white


Black and white is actually a wonderful technique of simplifying things in order to understand them.
Of course lot of truth and precision is lost, but some insight is gained.
All the theories in social sciences lie.
But most of them allow us to know more truth than we knew in the first place.
What I'm trying to do is not a scientific theory, but some forms of thought could help me gain some insight.
Also, there is a style in painting called cubism.
It reduces all the complex shapes to geometric figures, yet the essence is not lost.
Also, there are schemes and sketches  - they all lie, but we know more with them than without them.


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RE: M/s and IQ and wisdom - 6/10/2010 9:00:09 AM   
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I think classical music has more complexity and is usually less commercial - the primary motive of a classical composer is not sales of albums, but artistic expression.


You hear classical music used commercially constantly.

This is a very naive view of the musicians' world. Musicians of all genres like to eat, pay mortgages, save for retirement....

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RE: M/s and IQ and wisdom - 6/10/2010 9:00:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		Let me just ask you something SN, if the Domme you seek will be all of what you say you are looking for, then what the heck would she see in a twit like you?

Take the premise you started this thread with...why would such an intelligent and wise woman as you described here want you? There has to be compatibility and common ground and a base to build upon for both people, which is what people keep telling you. Is there really such a worldly woman out there such as you seek, that will want to take on the brick wall that is you for their property? I have a high IQ, I have lots of common sense, I have been through many travails in life which have given me wisdom because I learned from them. If I sit on my ass and wait for a man who exceeds me in these things you mentioned, IQ and wisdom, I may be alone for the rest of my life. I prefer not to live that way, holding potential partners up to a measuring post to see if they're good enough. F*ck that. Once again your theories are all full of holes and you're not willing to see this or grow from learning that things are different than you thought.

Up till now I've chosen not to participate in any of your threads because it's useless, but here -  I'll give you the shorthand answer key for this thread, for any past threads, and for any future threads you may wish to start.

1. It depends on the people involved.
2. Not everyone wants the same thing.
3. There are no blanket meanings for things.

If any others want to add to the list please feel free. The objective being that SN can satisfy his neverending repetition of the same themes by coming to this list, choosing the appropriate answer, and not involving anyone else.

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RE: M/s and IQ and wisdom - 6/10/2010 9:19:13 AM   
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RE: M/s and IQ and wisdom - 6/10/2010 9:22:48 AM   
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I think you don't understand what's wrong with your behaviour. Because if you did, you'd *stop*.



I think that would apply to the majority.
Now can people stick to discussing the thread and away from getting personal or start discussing other subjects please.
If you want a music discussion thread,please feel free to start one elsewhere.

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RE: M/s and IQ and wisdom - 6/10/2010 9:24:16 AM   
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Love the ad, but we have to be really clear about the "free of outside distractions, such as internet access"... I'd suggest you put that bit in bold.



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RE: M/s and IQ and wisdom - 6/10/2010 9:25:11 AM   
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Let me just ask you something SN, if the Domme you seek will be all of what you say you are looking for, then what the heck would she see in a twit like you?

Take the premise you started this thread with...why would such an intelligent and wise woman as you described here want you? There has to be compatibility and common ground and a base to build upon for both people, which is what people keep telling you. Is there really such a worldly woman out there such as you seek, that will want to take on the brick wall that is you for their property? I have a high IQ, I have lots of common sense, I have been through many travails in life which have given me wisdom because I learned from them. If I sit on my ass and wait for a man who exceeds me in these things you mentioned, IQ and wisdom, I may be alone for the rest of my life. I prefer not to live that way, holding potential partners up to a measuring post to see if they're good enough. F*ck that. Once again your theories are all full of holes and you're not willing to see this or grow from learning that things are different than you thought.


My thread was theoretic in nature. I just wanted to elaborate in which circumstances I WOULD BE ABLE to be a slave in TPE.
Something like a thought experiment.
This doesn't mean that I am looking forward to it, nor that I intend to find such a Domme.
If I do find her, it would be great, but if I don't there are more realistic alternatives such as:

a) being a dominant with the girl who doesn't have to be smarter or wiser than me and who would probably try to find someone who is smarter and wiser than her, so I could be an option
b) being a submissive in NON TPE D/s relationship where I wouldn't need a domme to satisfy such high standards, because I would retain my independence in all the things that aren't directly connected to relationship.

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RE: M/s and IQ and wisdom - 6/10/2010 9:34:35 AM   
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I have come to the conclusion that while you have a fascination with TPE & M/s, you are not actually capable of being in such a relationship. Why do you keep posting about them?

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RE: M/s and IQ and wisdom - 6/10/2010 9:40:33 AM   
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Why do you keep posting about them?


Because they are fascinating subjects.


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RE: M/s and IQ and wisdom - 6/10/2010 9:42:13 AM   
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RE: M/s and IQ and wisdom - 6/10/2010 9:51:47 AM   
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Why do you keep posting about them?


Because they are fascinating subjects.




Well you do seem to post as if you are writing a college paper on BDSM.

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RE: M/s and IQ and wisdom - 6/10/2010 9:58:10 AM   
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Because they are fascinating subjects.



Do you worry that your fascination with the subject will lead to unrealistic expectations? I mean, sooner or later, if you pursue such things outside of cyber space, you are going to discover that dominants are just as flawed as any other human .. even those with high IQ's and even though with loads of wisdom. Are you going to be able to deal with putting a dominant on a pedestal that can come crashing down and, perhaps, bury you in the rubble in the process? You had a taste of that already, right? The pro who had you do research and whatnot who pretty much paid no other attention to you because you couldn't meet her price? That's just the tip of the iceberg you know. I would advice caution as well if you go to the flip side. Allowing a submissive or slave to put *you* on a pedestal means you are going to have to stay completely balanced and the higher the pedestal, the shakier it will be and the more likely that you'll be the one to fall off of it.

I have a question for you ... do you intend to stay within a theoretical model or do you actually want to pursue an offline, nose-to-nose relationship with someone? Honestly, I can't tell. You seem to thrive on the discussion of the subject but perhaps are too timid or too fearful to take it out of theory and put things into practice? I'm just being nosy.. no pressure to answer.

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RE: M/s and IQ and wisdom - 6/10/2010 10:02:20 AM   
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I have a question for you ... do you intend to stay within a theoretical model or do you actually want to pursue an offline, nose-to-nose relationship with someone? Honestly, I can't tell. You seem to thrive on the discussion of the subject but perhaps are too timid or too fearful to take it out of theory and put things into practice? I'm just being nosy.. no pressure to answer.


The answer is - maybe. If there are right circumstances and if my urges for such kind of relationship grow stronger.
Right now I don't have very strong urges, but I am somewhat attracted to this dynamic even if it seems sometimes illogical to me.


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